My point still stands that its been changed into just another Bay-esque explosion porn movie.undeadsuitor said:Millennial tweens weren't alive to want those thingsSilentpony said:millennial tweens want, i.e. Transformers and Power Rangers.
That's washed up rich middle aged executatives thinking that millennial tweens want those things because they can't get out of the past.
Stop blaming things on the generational equivalent of a dead horse being beaten for things baby boomers did
Apparently Mako's back as well. And I could swear that Raleigh was in the trailer.Silentpony said:Oh totally glad to see the two scientist, you know the absolute worst part of the first movie, have returned when no one else did.
Plus the Asian triplets and the Russian couple seemed like far more interesting characters than generic white guy and his love interestCyanCat47 said:Honestly i don't get what everyone is complaining about. I thought Boyega was OK in Star Wars, and i don't watch Pacific Rim for the characters anyway. Does anyone even remember the name of the main guy in the last one? The biggest problem i had with PR1 was that the more original and varied Jaegers were taken down after 30 seconds in the first fight, something this movie seems to neatly fix by giving the Jaegers a more original arsenal in general
I think your underestimating the usefulness of Jagers, and how they offer much more control than just disintegrating everything with a nuke. A Jager can stroll into a city and take out military targets while minimizing civilian deaths, and world leaders would be less shy about using them instead of nukes.iamzim101 said:The problem with that is that Jagers are very much a strategic level threat. Tanks are useful at a tactical level to hold ground and support troop movement. There is literally no more escalation after Jagers other than Nuclear and one could easily posit that Jagers and Nuclear weapons are on the same level.undeadsuitor said:Idk why have tanks when we can launch nukes? Nukes don't invalidate the rest of warfare. While it's true most of the world had given up on jaegers by the start of Pacific rim, though plans don't disappear.Redryhno said:It was foreshadowed that the closing of that portal wouldn't be the end of it all though. It was essentially spelled out with "They will just keep coming". I mean, the access to Giant Robots was effectively gone at the end of the first movie too. The hangars were half destroyed and about the only people left were the scientists, the pilots, and a handful of people in the command bunkers. Not really a huge amount of people left that knew how the Jaegars were put together and maintained for it to become Gundam.undeadsuitor said:I'm disappointed that the Kaiju are back (though there might be more to them than the trailer is revealing)
I really wanted to see a movie based around the ramifications of every world power having access to giant robots and no common enemy to fight
I mean, we could have had some gundam shit going on. granted, the trailer does go into that with clear shots of Jaeger fighting Jaeger so maybe there's more.
Not to mention, it's not like the Jaegars were ever even all that well-designed for Jaegar to world-power engagements to begin with. They're massive sure, but the Australians were the only ones that had anti-personnel adjacent type weapons on-board. Everything else was just big monster punchers. Like what use would 3-arm style or Gypsy's plasma gun have been when you could just launch nukes?
I think there's more to the movie than the trailer is letting on. Those very human made looking skittering robots that fuse the kaiju together at the end dobt seem like the tech that made them in the first movie.
If I had to imagine a world after Pacific rim assume the reason nukes weren't used against the kaijus were that got healed by them the Jagers would be the worlds coolest "port queens". Hardly ever taken out as the immense cost with the per hour running time would constitute very small amounts of the jager equivalent of flight hours. Not to mention they get completely superseded by Nukes in terms of cost and effectiveness. They would be kept around for about a decade or two in case of more kaijus but would have absolutely no merit otherwise other than morale in parades and such.
The thing about mecha in general is that there must be a suspension of belief required or else people don't believe it. Pacific rim worked because it didn't take it self too seriously. Trying to make it serious would just mean people would ask why they didn't just use nukes. Because if you can't hand wave away nuclear weapons with alien monsters the premise doesn't work with any amount of scrutiny.
To be honest, I'd rather have Tron 3 than Pacific Rim 2.Tanis said:Here I was hoping for more of Tron...but, it's this.
So...yay?
PapaGreg096 said:There were two things I didn't like about this trailer, one is that the mechs don't move like they are over 500 meters tall, one of the things I love about the first one is that for every movement they make you get a sense of scale and weight, here they seem to move like ninjas. Another thing is that I feel as if the Jaegers are too similar looking compared to the 1st movie.