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Therumancer

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PC Games are cheaper because there are less people playing them and they don't want to lose the market by alienating what is left with high prices. See, one of the reasons why console games are taking off is because of all the problems with getting games to run on a PC. PC games require all kinds of hardware to run right, and everyone's system winds up being a bit differant depending on the pieces, software, and of course how well updated the drivers are kept (which can vary greatly because updating drivers can be a painful process in a lot of cases, with the new drivers for whatever reason not working well with your system or established software).


Console games are made with established hardware in mind, with all the systems running exactly the same. While the power of such systems is weak compared to PCs, there is also no tinkering, or needs to go running out to spend hundreds of dollars to upgrade a system to run the newest game.

Like right now I have a PC I bought last year (with some help), it's running a Phenom 9600 Quad-Core processor and a Nvidia 8800GT graphics card. Right now my system is rated by many as "cheapo" and I have some questions as to whether or not I will be able to run Dragon Age come the end of the year (Disabled, and not a lot of money for upgrades). As it is I have some minor problems with Fallout 3 (but it generally runs just fine, I get some wierd graphic flickering at the upper right of the screen once in a while, and for some idiotic reason it doesn't like to run custom radio station mods).

Consider though that with this system I'm already wondering if I can play the newest coming games, while with older consoles there is no such worry. If it says "360" or "PS-3" any PS-3 or 360 will run the game fine. What's more those consoles are substantially cheaper when new.

At any rate this kind of thing doubtlessly contributes to why PC games are cheaper, they are competing with the consoles. Like it or not while PCs can achieve better quality in theory in general the PC is an inferior gaming platform. Console developers learn to make that limited hardware really sing and produce some amazing results, especially towards the end of the life of a console. PC developers always seem to run for the bleeding edge, and then rely on gamers to upgrade their systems, or use varied hardware as a cop out to make their stuff run properly (ie, if you have problems contact your hardware manufacturer, or update your drivers and resolve any appropriate conflicts because heck, we didn't bother to test this on many differant system configurations).


At any rate after all this I will generally say games are so expensive because the industry is greedy, and is out to gouge gamers for as much as we can possibly pay. They engage in price fixing (as I mentioned in other threads) to keep prices as high as the market can stand. AAA titles and ones with fairly low budgets (comparitively speaking) tend to go for the same price when first released. By setting prices (which is illegal at least in the US) nobody competes with each other to undercut the competition which is what is supposed to be happening.

Perhaps prices won't go as low as Brazil (referancing the article here) but if the industry competed as intended they would be a LOT lower.

I mean I'm all for capitolism, but the thing is that in the US Capitolism was intended to be balanced by rules to prevent monopolies, force competition, and prevent price fixing by coordinates groups of merchants/producers that should be competing.

Nobody cares about the game industry (yet) which is why they get away with it, you however saw these issues in action over gas prices (still ongoing), and of course the whole drama about Microsoft and whether it's effectively running a monopoly on operating systems (which it is, but American law is anything but straightforward especially when a lot of money is involved).

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DraftPickle

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It's ridiculous that customers get this shafted *wonders off to watchdog page* anyone want to sign a petition? :L and why we talking about Brazil?
 

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barryween said:
Emmitt_Nervend said:
The way I see it, DVDs are usually about $15 and most movies are around 90 minutes long and CDs will usually run you about $10-$12 and you can expect those to be around 60 minutes. That's about $10 per hour of media. By those standards, a $60 game should last at least 6 hours.

Sure, the price is on the steep side but It's not that bad depending on your perspective.
I kinda get where you are coming from, but you have to remember that Cd's and Music don't take as much money to make as games. So it is an uneven ratio. It's like putting a ratio between a 12 oz. Crap steak and a 24 oz. Fillet Minion.
So what you're saying is that games should actually cost more? Since they last you longer and take more money to make, they should be worth much much more.

Also, is there any real reason behind this complaint except that you don't want to pay as much? I'm sorry, but in this case, the only way to vote is with your feet. It's not like the gaming industry is government regulated, the only way you can really influence it is to choose not to buy the game. If you're still buying the games, or they're still getting more money by selling them at inflated prices, then that's what they'll continue to do.
 

johnzaku

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DraftPickle said:
yeah I don't mind the price....too much, but why are PC games cheaper that console games?
My Goodness, no one's really answered you have they?

Well, here ya go, There is a huuuuge market for console gamers. Remember when they
first announced the price hike? They said the reason was because
they knew we'd pay it. Those aren't the exact words, but hey, it's what they
said.

And the reason PC games are cheaper is because they don't need to put a bunch
of work into it. PCs have much more power to process and render than
consoles, not to mention they've been around a fairly long time.

There ya go! That's a short answer, If you'd like more detail, feel free to drop ma a message, or wait for someone more learned than me, they're out there =]
 

DraftPickle

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[\quote]Also, is there any real reason behind this complaint except that you don't want to pay as much? I'm sorry, but in this case, the only way to vote is with your feet. It's not like the gaming industry is government regulated, the only way you can really influence it is to choose not to buy the game. If you're still buying the games, or they're still getting more money by selling them at inflated prices, then that's what they'll continue to do.[/quote]

OK in most cases I'd agree with you, but in the present economic climate more people look to games and DVD's for entertainment, they can't REALLY justify it, just not buying things is effective but not realistic
 

teutonicman

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At the game stores I go to new releases cost around $59.99 canadian. Now the more recent tiles (Prototype) are selling for $69.99. Thats fucking bullshit! Why the increase? the economy is supposed to be in a slump and there jacking prices.
 

DraftPickle

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Yeah fuckin you wanna buy bog standard version of CoD MW2 in UK its £45, EIGHTY FUCKING DOLLARS.
 

Abedeus

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Therumancer said:
PC Games are cheaper because there are less people playing them
Hahahaha no.

2 mln accounts at Steam says hi. 11 millions of WoW people says hi. 4 millions of Aion people says hi. 100 millions of copies of Sims 1, another millions from Sims 2 and 1.4 millions of people that bought Sims 3 in the first week says hi.

Also, if you add casual games... Take any console, its amount of players < amount of PC players. You can thank backward compatibility for it - you don't have to buy a new PC to run older or casual games.
 

S.H.A.R.P.

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Ahhhhhhhh (sigh of satisfaction), at times like these it feels good to be a PC gamer. :)

Though I saw a game (don't know the game and can't look it up) on steam with a price of over 50 EUR. In my opinion that is totally ridiculous. Newly launched games have always costed 50 EUR, why change that damnit!
 

Omikron009

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This really pissed me off. I was looking through a future shop flyer and I saw Red Faction: Guerilla, a game I want. For 360 it was 60 bucks and for PC it was 50. I was angered.
 

Blanks

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the ridiculous pricing of new games, has forced me to buy either used (which is never a good idea) or my favourite choice which is buying cheaper playstation 2 games
 

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johnzaku said:
DraftPickle said:
yeah I don't mind the price....too much, but why are PC games cheaper that console games?
My Goodness, no one's really answered you have they?

Well, here ya go, There is a huuuuge market for console gamers. Remember when they
first announced the price hike? They said the reason was because
they knew we'd pay it. Those aren't the exact words, but hey, it's what they
said.

And the reason PC games are cheaper is because they don't need to put a bunch
of work into it. PCs have much more power to process and render than
consoles, not to mention they've been around a fairly long time.

There ya go! That's a short answer, If you'd like more detail, feel free to drop ma a message, or wait for someone more learned than me, they're out there =]
Development kits for the consoles are very expensive, so the console developers factor that cost in to what they need as far pricing is concerned. For PC games all you need is a basic code compiler really.

PC developers can also take a much more brute force approach with their development. Most people that consider themselves PC gamers will have at least current mid-range hardware, so the developers have more power to work with than they really need. This means they don't have to squeeze out every last bit of performance like they do on the consoles.
 

Iampringles

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I buy off eBay, bid intelligently, and I often break even/ occasionally make a profit.

For example, I purchased a sealed brand new copy of Fallout 3 for £14.50.

I could easily sell it now for £20+.
 

manaman

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All this fuss over a ten dollar difference? Ten dollars. You realize that is mostly the license fees they have to pay right?

Price fixing? Making a max price is price fixing? Microsoft is not forcing publishers to adhere to specific prices, only a maximum price they can charge. Which has the same effect.

Everyone charges the max or close to it because everyone else is doing it. And if the standard big name release for the 360 is $60, and the standard big name release for the PC is $50 then you are all quibbling over a $10 difference. The rest just follows suit. The same guys that port their game over to the PC might charge $29.99 for it while charging $59.99 on the 360 simply because that is what everyone else charges so they can get away with it, while the lower PC price is in there to be competitive with current titles out for the PC - it may not be the bleeding edge and have to compete with titles 2+ years old.
 

Andalusa

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Some games, brand new, are ridiculously expensive so I usually wait for a bit for the price to drop.
 

Therumancer

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Abedeus said:
Therumancer said:
PC Games are cheaper because there are less people playing them
Hahahaha no.

2 mln accounts at Steam says hi. 11 millions of WoW people says hi. 4 millions of Aion people says hi. 100 millions of copies of Sims 1, another millions from Sims 2 and 1.4 millions of people that bought Sims 3 in the first week says hi.

Also, if you add casual games... Take any console, its amount of players < amount of PC players. You can thank backward compatibility for it - you don't have to buy a new PC to run older or casual games.
Your talking about a very few things. WoW and the Sims are unusual phenomenas. We're talking about why a game for the console and one for the PC have differant prices. WoW is not on consoles (yet) for example, and also goes VERY cheaply at least for the software which is
how they get so many people to try it.

The Sims is a paticular oddity, and always has been.

Other than that I'd imagine consoles have their own exceptional mega-sales as well. Things like Madden and say Grand Theft Auto for example. Especially the Sports Titles move a huge number of copies.

However in general there are less people gaming off PCs today than are off of consoles.