Prison Gladiatorial Death Matches

[RamirezDoEverything]

I'd watch.

You think I'm joking? These prisoners are willingly doing it, let them do it! Let them enjoy a bit of fame if they win a few before they die.

But I think the prisoners should be allowed to join some sort of military program upon winning X amount of fights, military could use killing machines.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

This isn't Ancient Rome and we don't even let animals do this for sport any more in general society this would not have a chance of existing. So you're letting mostly mentally unstable people fight to death just for entertainment and possible money? As idealistic as that is do you really think any money made from this will not go back into the Prison system. I also think that would be a giant leap backwards as a society.

 

[Vegosiux]

I am still not past the idea that people would draw enjoyment from watching other people actually fight to the death. I'm sorry, it's just not going in.

And I frankly have more of a problem with people who'd be getting off such a bloodsport than the bloodsport itself.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I think this is the kinda things that fall under cruel and unusual punishment.

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besides, you cant just let a prisoner off a sentence because they killed someone who was in an equal sentence.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

It may not necessarily be entirely cruel, but it most certainly qualifies as unusual punishment.

 

[Vault101]

I'd watch.

You think I'm joking? These prisoners are willingly doing it, let them do it! Let them enjoy a bit of fame if they win a few before they die.

But I think the prisoners should be allowed to join some sort of military program upon winning X amount of fights, military could use killing machines.

two words

"war-crime"

you honestly think giving thease people access to weopons and advanced training is a good Idea?

 

[Pimppeter2]

The death penalty is a stupid idea on its own, and this is just a fucking stupider way to implement it.

You say "voluntary" but then you put it in a life or death situation. This doesn't make it an option. Almost anyone would try to avoid death. Forcing them to do this is just inhumane. Its horrid.

When did we, as a culture, start awarding people for murder?* We've punished someone for committing a horrible act, how do we then award them for committing more and more horrible acts? That's just stupid.

Some people need to stop taking Spartacus so seriously. Imagine if that guy "fighting for glory" was the same guy who raped and murdered your 5 year old sister? I feel like your romanticizing something that is quite awful here. But the OP has claimed to not be romanticizing it, which just makes me feel like he a closet sociopath who thinks allowing people to kill eachother for their lives is a good idea.... Jigsaw, is that you?

[sub][sub][sub]*miliatary stuff aside that is, I have a whole other bone to pick with the army that I wont go into here*[/sub][/sub][/sub]

 

[Zeckt]

I think I would get physically and emotionally sick watching people kill other people in grisly ways, Especially in a sports entertainment like fashion.

Edit ^ your exactly right. It would be a VERY sad day for humanity if someone who raped and killed a woman had access to "perks."

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

because giving violent convicts the power to dictate their own punishment, as well as filming them commit violent acts on other human beings, and then rewarding them for it, is sending out rather the wrong message to everyone involved.

 

[JaceArveduin]

I'm pretty sure the "perks" Would be along the lines of there own room and actually be able to get hot showers.

But yeah, I don't care one way or another on this one, let them fight to keep themselves alive just a little longer. People seem to think the convicts would be let loose after X wins, he never said that. But yeah, people watch Ultimate fighter, and this is as good a way as any to clean up the jail system and give it a way to make money. Of course, it's not going to happen because people moral's don't want to let the people with out them kill each other.

 

[Isalan]

Main reason for not doing this is that Liberals would literally shit a brick.

And their enough of a pain in the ass without going around trying to piss them off.

Otherwise, cracking idea, though I wouldn't limit it to death row prisoners, I'd go the full Running Man. If you win, you get to spend the rest of your life on a lovely desert island with a suspicious lack of transport off. But hey, better than shower time with Big Hank right?

 

[Ham_authority95]

Because of the ethical issues even if it's voluntary. In general you don't want murderers to kill more people.

Exactly. If you gave murderers the chance to kill, you're not really stopping them from doing it again, you see? You're basically telling them that it's okay as long as it's against prisoners and live on pay-per-view.

Only idiots who've watched too many gladiator movies would think this is a good idea. Or genuine psychopaths.

 

[Phlakes]

It's funny how all those books and movies like to paint really bleak, morally ambiguous pictures of the future.

And then we follow it perfectly.

 

[Something Amyss]

I always thought the reason we had prisons was that we weren't monsters.

 

[Jadak]

He also added that prisons might be able to make some extra money by offering Pay-Per-View versions of the matches on TV or the internet.

That's really the main argument against it, actually. Even accepting all other ethical considerations, once you turn it into a profitable system it starts becoming a lot less "voluntary".

Not really something I need to explain, I think Death Race made that point. Once money is involved, any ethical lines you try to draw up go out the window. The more money, the worse it'll be. You state ending up with framed prisoners and 'voluntary' fighters who really had no other choice.

 

[Jadak]

and Nathan Dunlap (murdered 4 people during a robbery).

Er... I'm fine with your other examples, but how is that not fucked up?

 

[Sangreal Gothcraft]

Eh...man that is just cruel... i mean dam have we all turned into blood Thirsty Monsters Lusting for blood? Where is the Humanity in us?

 

[alandavidson]

All I can really say to that is this:

It's one thing to watch someone die in movie you know is fake, where some part of you knows that the director yelled, "cut" the actor got up, was cleaned up and went back to his trailer.

It's another thing to watch a person scream and struggle and beg for mercy, pleading to God for help, and there is no director, there is no makeup artist, there is no trailer to go back to and start running lines in.

The (normal) human brain knows the difference between these two scenarios. Anyone who would want to watch it, let alone organize it, probably has never seen the latter.

The latter will keep you up at night.

 

[JWAN]

Ethical implications. I know it sounds strange to a lot of people but people who are unapologetic and have committed murder(s) (in many cases multiple murders) are frowned upon in my country. So much so that instead of feeding them and clothing them and keeping them content and spending shit tons of money on them we find it better to make them dead.

For example, if that guy who did the mass shooting spree in Norway had done that in Texas, he would be in the express lane IF he would have survived his rampage. The Death penalty is for extreme cases. I can understand how a lot of people just assume we use it like China and kill off someone for being a general ass, but its just not so. Also its the states right to chose weather or not to use the death penalty. e.x Texas and California have it and Wisconsin and Minnesota do not.

 

[Smeggs]

I propose thusly. Create an ENTIRELY optional fighting league that works until first submission and allow for modern armor and weapons no longer than you are tall. Disarming, pinning or catching an enemy off guard grants victory. Perhaps a points system for hits to the chest and head? Only way i can see this going through.

That's a great idea! Let's train the serial killers and rapists how to fight better!

That could have no negative repercussions at all.