Problems that men have to deal with

[Grahav]

Well, these are basically the most common complaints:

This may upset some people

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[Proto Taco]

Well, these are basically the most common complaints:

This may upset some people

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That entire comic doesn't prove a point so much as it offers absolution to insecure men. Plus, the arguments don't make any sense. One example would be how at first the comic is suggesting that in fact men ARE sensitive, and don't really care what a woman looks like, and then it proceeds to deride femme transwomen who don't pass well because they're 'not trying'. The mental gymnastics required to make sense of that comic are on par with the impressive stylings of the Chinese Olympic team.

If men want to discuss gender issues as 'equals' they need to be big enough to admit that women, in fact, do still have it worse them and work from there. Acting like men have it 'as bad' as women in the gender arena is right up there with complaining about inflation because all the slaves were freed.

 

[Blue C Jeffrey]

I know this isn't common among most men, but I still find this a major problem in terms of outlooks and stigmas:

[link]http://www.gq.com/long-form/male-military-rape[/link]

I still don't believe I didn't bring this on. I keep telling myself, If only I hadn't had a few beers that night. If only I hadn't invited him back to my room. I tried to resist. He was just so fucking strong.

There's the fear that "if other people know this about me, well, then, my life is over. No one's gonna want to be around me. They'll know that I'm less of a man."

Hell no, I didn't report this. Who was I going to report it to? He had serious rank over me. After they ordered me to return to work with him, I stabbed myself in the neck so I could go home.

I was starting to hallucinate that people were coming to get me. I barricaded myself in my room in the barracks because I heard a key in the lock and thought they were coming in. It was my roommate, but I was screaming, "Don't hurt me!" They took me to the hospital, and that's where I finally told the psychiatrist what had happened. It was a huge mistake. I was put into a mental ward out of One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest. The doctor would say, "You enjoyed it, didn't you? Come on, tell me the truth."

I can turn off my love for a person like a light switch. If my current wife made me distrust her in any way, I could walk out the door and not miss her. My kids told me my head was always in my work. Which was true. I don't feel any loss of not being part of their life.

I'm emotionally numb all the time. I'm not feeling love. I don't feel.

Shit like this is infuriating.

 

[ace_of_something]

Hrrrmm... Well, sometimes shaving my neck hurts. Mainly cuz for whatever the reason the hair that grows on my neck is effing razor sharp rather than soft like the rest of my hair.

that's all I got. Otherwise, I think I've got it pretty darn easy compared to most. Being a Tall White upper-middle class male in his 30's puts me in the power position for most situations. It's not my fault it works that way, but I'm not going to try to play the victim either.

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Now for a complete answer:
You must deal with it.
Sorry, but this how the world work. Most of the people will judge you because you don't follow the "flow"

Changing it is "dealing with it". Just saying that "that's how things are and they'll never change" is an enormous cop-out.

 

[WhiteNachos]

Well, these are basically the most common complaints:

This may upset some people

Spoiler

That entire comic doesn't prove a point so much as it offers absolution to insecure men. Plus, the arguments don't make any sense. One example would be how at first the comic is suggesting that in fact men ARE sensitive, and don't really care what a woman looks like, and then it proceeds to deride femme transwomen who don't pass well because they're 'not trying'. The mental gymnastics required to make sense of that comic are on par with the impressive stylings of the Chinese Olympic team.

If men want to discuss gender issues as 'equals' they need to be big enough to admit that women, in fact, do still have it worse them and work from there. Acting like men have it 'as bad' as women in the gender arena is right up there with complaining about inflation because all the slaves were freed.

Who has it worse is an opinion, because better and worse are subjective. You don't get to ask that everyone start the conversation by agreeing with you..

 

[Johnny Impact]

Supposed to be endlessly strong, endlessly patient in relationships, essentially a cross between a granite pillar of support and an emotional garbage disposal down which a woman can dump all her problems and instabilities. First of all, it's insulting to women to imply they need such a thing. Second, there's no allowance for men to require occasional support.

Not supposed to have emotions. Or at least, supposed to be limited to lust, pride, and anger.

"Just give him sex every once in a while and he'll be happy. That's all men ever really want." A guy at my work once said to me, "Every guy wants a blowjob." I actually don't. To me that's a degrading, submissive act. I'd never ask for one and believe it or not I'd turn it down if it was offered. It's just repugnant as a concept. If all I cared about was sex acts, there *are* hookers in my town. I've never hired one and I never will. But what kind of mutant must I be, to not wish for immediate gratification any way I can possibly get it?

Not allowed to be mechanically inept. I have no idea what a carburetor looks like or does.

Not allowed to not be having sex. If you're not pursuing women, or if you're pursuing them unsuccessfully, you're "queer." I know a website that seriously claims the highest aspiration of man is pussy, and the only value a man can have is measured in sexual conquests. Really? The Sistine Chapel, the space program, Socratic wisdom, Shakespeare's collected works -- all worthless? It was just pussy, the whole time?

Not allowed to not like sports. I used to hate sports with a seething volcanic fury. Now it's just cordial dislike. I have never been able to understand why people care whether some total stranger a thousand miles away hits a rock with a stick. Utterly. Fucking. Pointless. But you're less than a man if you don't get excited about it.

 

[Thaluikhain]

That entire comic doesn't prove a point so much as it offers absolution to insecure men. Plus, the arguments don't make any sense. One example would be how at first the comic is suggesting that in fact men ARE sensitive, and don't really care what a woman looks like, and then it proceeds to deride femme transwomen who don't pass well because they're 'not trying'. The mental gymnastics required to make sense of that comic are on par with the impressive stylings of the Chinese Olympic team.

Probably because it's an angry and badly thought out edit job of a comic pointing out things the editor doesn't want to hear about. We saw a few similar ones crop up in regards to the WGDF.

 

[Frankster]

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Out of curiosity how can the heretosexual male hive mind convince you they are "big" enough to "admit" that women have it worst then them? Do you want male posters to have a disclaimer "women have it worst then me, now please let me say my piece" in all their posts? There hasn't bee a lot of posters that I've seen here claiming they have it worst then women but the way you say it makes it seem it's a widespread attitude.

Also whilst I couldn't make sense of some parts of that comic (the transwoman panel in particular just makes me scratch my head), there was some panels that I felt were actually kinda true and you can find the sentiment echoed in statements other posters made here.
Yet you casually dismiss all that as "insecurities" because you personally don't agree/relate to it as if you were a sort of gatekeeper figure deciding what is ok to feel hurt by and what isn't. Not cool and doesn't exactly make people want to share their personal vulnerabilities if it's only to be shit on.

 

[Strazdas]

there is the usual "your not a man because you dont watch sports and drink" stuff. luckily i hang around with people smart enough to realize i just dont like those things. also when i drink i drink liquor which apperently is a "womans drink" and brings a lot of ridicule.

I also often get called a "pussy" and other ways to imply im not a man when i express the opinion that women have a mind of their own and have a right to choose who to have sexual relationships with and when. apperently im not a man if i dont support monogamy with same partner for whole life. But then thats a small problem compared to slut shaming she gets from same people.

I see people mentioned the "men dont cry" sillyness as well. Personally it isnt a problem for me as i dont actually cry (seriously last time was probably when i was 10) i do realize this is silly notion and im just weird here.

Fashion is also kinda ungrateful for men. a good looking woman can sport pretty much any type of pants and look great in it, a good looking man on the other hand - if its not jeans of costume pants your scum/bum.

There are of course the whole sexual harassment thing, but in my experience those are rare cases, so i dont feel knowledgable to talk about this.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

I think crying might be the biggest one for me. Always told big boys don't cry. it gets ingrained into you.

I didn't even realise until a few years ago, what an issue this is. I was at my friends 10 day olds babies funeral, n no matter how i felt, i couldn't shed a fucking tear, I automatically suppressed it before I realised it was there, then it was too late to let it out.

Disney made Frozen, a film that (among other things) taught girls finding Prince Charming shouldn't define them, boys need an ok to cry Disney film

 

[Stephen St.]

Whatever the reason, how disposable men are, weakness of the victim, or the age of the victim - killing a male isn't as bad as killing a woman.

You just literally stated that "whatever the reason, the reason is that killing a male isn't as bad". If the reason is the weakness of the victim, then the reason is not the gender of the victim. It's that simple.

 

[CymbaIine]

Couldn't find my son's dummy (pacifier) anywhere. He was basically Maggie Simpson back then, couldn't settle without it.

Walked into my local shop and asked the shop assistant for one I also explained the situation as we were on chatting terms. She turned to the display behind her and seeing on two pink dummies turned back and said "Oh sorry we only have pink ones". I replied that pink was fine and she looked horrified and checked that it was indeed for my son and not some girl baby I was minding.

I can't remember my sons exact age but he was too young to even fathom what pink was... we are talking baby as opposed to toddler.

Presumably the woman in shop would rather let her son cry than offer him comfort that was pink.

I know this seems like a bit of a shallow story but this kind of thing has been repeated many times. My son loved art and crafts stuff when he was younger and I was really limited as most of that stuff was so overtly aimed at girls. He has no interest in that stuff now and I wonder if the marketing was part of the reason.

 

[CymbaIine]

One of the things I have to deal with. I have never met a woman smarter or more mature than me. Why would I want to date you, if you can't stop acting like a five year old. I look good. I am loaded. I can dance, I am romantic, I am a great cook, I am a great talker and listener.

Have you considered printing this on a T-Shirt and hitting your local single's club?

 

[CymbaIine]

Why? I am not single. I have more pussy than I have time to fuck. What is the point of your post?

It was in answer to this -

I never find women who do anything to make me interested. Where are the good women?

Sorry for the confusion I didn't think I would need to clarify as you had wrote it.

I have more pussy than I have time to fuck.

Men do indeed have some serious problems.

 

[Suhi89]

Whatever the reason, how disposable men are, weakness of the victim, or the age of the victim - killing a male isn't as bad as killing a woman.

You just literally stated that "whatever the reason, the reason is that killing a male isn't as bad". If the reason is the weakness of the victim, then the reason is not the gender of the victim. It's that simple.

I fail to see how being stronger than someone else is any comfort to you or your family if you're dead. The idea that killing a woman is worse because they're more defenseless is crazy. If you've been murdered, then by definition you were unable to defend yourself. Being dead isn't worse for a weak person, being dead is being dead. It's one thing we can say with confidence is experienced the same by the weak and the strong, the poor and the rich alike.

It also seems to me that killing a strong woman would be considered worse than killing a weak, but physically able, man (I don't actually know if that's true but it certainly seems to be the case). If anything, it's to do with average gender strength rather than individual victim strength, therefore the reason is the gender of the victim rather than the specific weakness of the victim.