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Lilani

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SUPA FRANKY said:
Erttheking. I have a dare for you.

I dare you to not talk about something gender/feminism related for one day.
What would be the point of that? To give you a break from knowing there are people in the world who feel differently about certain things than you do? Sorry, but people like that aren't going to go away, and asking them to do so is just being childish.

I have a dare for you: The next time somebody is annoying you with how much they talk about stuff on an Internet forum, don't read the stuff that they write. Or just put them on your ignore list.
 

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Lilani said:
What would be the point of that? To give you a break from knowing there are people in the world who feel differently about certain things than you do? Sorry, but people like that aren't going to go away, and asking them to do so is just being childish.

I have a dare for you: The next time somebody is annoying you with how much they talk about stuff on an Internet forum, don't read the stuff that they write. Or just put them on your ignore list.
The best part is you don't even realize the level of hypocrisy in this post.

Baffle said:
It'll be the things that women said in that other thread.
Baffle said:
I know a woman that has to put up with my constant nagging about shutting the freezer door properly.
Dude I love your posts. Your avatar always instantly catches my eye. You're seriously funny.

Anyway. The last one was about more about whining about your own problems. Is this now where we pat each other on the back about how hard other people's middle-to-upper-class teenage life in the first world is? I'd like to quote DjinnFor's posts from the last thread, but you can just go read them yourselves (page 3 and 4 respectively).
That said, by all means go ahead and complain to your heart's content. The same right to post these things also covers my right to find them very silly and out of place.
 

Lilani

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giles said:
Lilani said:
What would be the point of that? To give you a break from knowing there are people in the world who feel differently about certain things than you do? Sorry, but people like that aren't going to go away, and asking them to do so is just being childish.

I have a dare for you: The next time somebody is annoying you with how much they talk about stuff on an Internet forum, don't read the stuff that they write. Or just put them on your ignore list.
The best part is you don't even realize the level of hypocrisy in this post.
Not quite. It would have been hypocritical if I responded with his "You shut up!" post with "No you shut up!" But I responded with, "Rather than asking people to shut up, why not just ignore them?" I didn't plan on ignoring or silencing him, I planned on engaging with him, so it's not hypocritical for me to offer advice on how to deal with people you DON'T want to engage.
 

giles

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Lilani said:
his "You shut up!" post
More like "Look mate, you're kinda obsessing over this. Just saying."
Your post was "I will now respond to this post that I don't agree with by saying you should not complain about posts you don't agree with but rather ignore them instead" aka "I'm not taking my own advice" aka hypocrisy.
Now I'm not saying that you should not have responded, but that you telling him to just ignore things he doesn't agree with on a forum is stupid. A forum is not an echo chamber.
 

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giles said:
Lilani said:
What would be the point of that? To give you a break from knowing there are people in the world who feel differently about certain things than you do? Sorry, but people like that aren't going to go away, and asking them to do so is just being childish.

I have a dare for you: The next time somebody is annoying you with how much they talk about stuff on an Internet forum, don't read the stuff that they write. Or just put them on your ignore list.
The best part is you don't even realize the level of hypocrisy in this post.

Baffle said:
It'll be the things that women said in that other thread.
Baffle said:
I know a woman that has to put up with my constant nagging about shutting the freezer door properly.
Dude I love your posts. Your avatar always instantly catches my eye. You're seriously funny.

Anyway. The last one was about more about whining about your own problems. Is this now where we pat each other on the back about how hard other people's middle-to-upper-class teenage life in the first world is? I'd like to quote DjinnFor's posts from the last thread, but you can just go read them yourselves (page 3 and 4 respectively).
That said, by all means go ahead and complain to your heart's content. The same right to post these things also covers my right to find them very silly and out of place.
Ok, fine then. Tell us how these problems are worth interrupting other discussions for. I would love to hear how that is not you whining. Step right up this thread is now your soapbox. Whine your little ass off. Go for it.
 

SUPA FRANKY

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Lilani said:
SUPA FRANKY said:
Erttheking. I have a dare for you.

I dare you to not talk about something gender/feminism related for one day.
What would be the point of that? To give you a break from knowing there are people in the world who feel differently about certain things than you do? Sorry, but people like that aren't going to go away, and asking them to do so is just being childish.

I have a dare for you: The next time somebody is annoying you with how much they talk about stuff on an Internet forum, don't read the stuff that they write. Or just put them on your ignore list.
It was purely in jest. It's just when I read the thread title, I instantly assumed erth would be the thread maker.
s up
Though t's not like not making a post about something for one day is hard. Not like I'm saying he shut up forever. But one day.


It is kinda hard to though, since at one point there were like 10 threads about that crap.But whatever. I've been doing that lately.
 

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giles said:
Lilani said:
Anyway. The last one was about more about whining about your own problems. Is this now where we pat each other on the back about how hard other people's middle-to-upper-class teenage life in the first world is? I'd like to quote DjinnFor's posts from the last thread, but you can just go read them yourselves (page 3 and 4 respectively).
That said, by all means go ahead and complain to your heart's content. The same right to post these things also covers my right to find them very silly and out of place.
...Several people in the last thread talked about how they were raped. Could you kindly explain how talking about something like that is "whining".

What's more. I asked one thing. One thing from people posting in this thread. "Be polite" A very simple rule. Is there any reason you didn't follow it? Because coming in and invalidating everyone's hardships is very much the opposite of being polite.
 

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TheRiddler said:
Since Halloween happened pretty recently, I've always thought it was pretty annoying that there aren't many women's costumes that aren't blatantly "sexy". Like, I'd be pissed off if the only costumes available to men made us look like Chippendale dancers.
Yeah, I'll second this. Women don't seem to get much in the way of costumes that don't have the word "sexy" in front of them. Sexy nurse, sexy superhero, sexy whatever. Maybe a woman just wants to be a ninja or a bloodthirsty monster or Inigo Montoya* and isn't looking for an excuse for wide-open cleavage or butt-hugging attire?

(* I have a friend who dressed up as him once. She was cute without having to be "sexy".)
 

Dragonlayer

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Ertheking: destroying sexism and prejudice, one all-inclusive discussion thread at a time.

As for my own observations, all manner of things: being raped and murdered a lot more in real life, being raped and murdered to singularity levels in crime novels, having to put up with puerile comments and cat-calls, spawning offensive movements (just been reading up a little on Pick-Up-Artists), having to put toilet lids down....
 

Spider RedNight

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As I struggle to find an observation about the "unfairer sex", I guess the biggest one that actually kind of bugs me a little bit is that GENERALLY SPEAKING little boys "aren't allowed" to like girly things.

Like if a little girl likes (albeit annoyingly advertised) TMNT stuff, that's okay but a little boy can't like a kick ass Easy-Bake Oven that makes deliciously fake treats. Boys should have a right to wear their MLP stuff wherever they want without being bullied. Granted, I'm talking about the actual age demographic but I suppose it can be extended to fully grown adults taking a cartoon far too seriously, as well.

Must suck to be a man brony in real life where you can't hide behind a computer. In relation, it also kind of bothers me that men are generally considered "weak" if they show any emotion that pertains to sensitivity. I can't really imagine being expected to hinder my misanthropic nihilism because feelings of emptiness and misery are frowned upon because of gender stereotypes.
 

Olas

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It seems like so much of the media panders to male sexuality, but not so much female sexuality.

Also, pregnancy and child birth, seriously I don't know how anyone could put up with that.
 

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Spider RedNight said:
As I struggle to find an observation about the "unfairer sex", I guess the biggest one that actually kind of bugs me a little bit is that GENERALLY SPEAKING little boys "aren't allowed" to like girly things.

Like if a little girl likes (albeit annoyingly advertised) TMNT stuff, that's okay but a little boy can't like a kick ass Easy-Bake Oven that makes deliciously fake treats. Boys should have a right to wear their MLP stuff wherever they want without being bullied. Granted, I'm talking about the actual age demographic but I suppose it can be extended to fully grown adults taking a cartoon far too seriously, as well.

Must suck to be a man brony in real life where you can't hide behind a computer. In relation, it also kind of bothers me that men are generally considered "weak" if they show any emotion that pertains to sensitivity. I can't really imagine being expected to hinder my misanthropic nihilism because feelings of emptiness and misery are frowned upon because of gender stereotypes.
Hear, hear. Agreed with every single point here. I hate how as soon as a boy displays even the most vague of interest in something percieved as "girly", he apparently deserves to be bullied and looked down upon. Like, if a girl can like "boyish" things, why can't boys like girly things?

(As a side note, did you know that the creator of MLP wanted it to be a gender-neutral franchise from the start? The ones who pushed for it to be marketed to girls were Hasbro.)
Lilani said:
Men have to deal with a lot of suspicion regarding child molestation and kidnapping. I saw this in action one day working at a retail store in a mall. The store had a second floor, and an escalator which could take you up it. One day, a dad bravely escorting his three children decided to take the escalator with all of them at once. The oldest child was probably 7, the middle probably 5, and the youngest just a little toddler who had just gotten the hang of walking. He had the toddler by the hand and helped him step onto the escalator, and the kid made it on just fine.

But escalator steps shift backward a bit when they settle into place. The toddler had stepped to the very front of the step, so when the one above shifted back, it scraped his knee. The boy starts screaming about halfway up the escalator, and another coworker and I watched them proceed to the top to make sure none of them were really hurt or fell down amid the bedlam.

They got to the top just fine, and as we started walking away, an older woman stopped us and urgently whispered "Are you sure those were his children?!" Apparently, to this woman, a man without a woman escorting children--one of which is crying--is more likely to be a kidnapper than a single father shopping with his kids, or a father keeping the kids busy while the mother is shopping. Never mind that he was going UP the escalator, to the upper floor of the store which was a dead end with no way out that doesn't require you to go back down to the first level again. And never mind that the upper floor was where the children's section was located, a perfectly reasonable direction for a father to take his children.
Also, this. I remember a thread from a few years back, when I was lurking around. There was this 16-year old kid who worked part-time at a pre-school. He was fired because the parents "didn't want a man to work near children". You know, since he obviously only worked there so he could molest them. /sarcasm
The two girls he worked with, who did absolutely nothing useful and would rather play around on their phones than watch over the children, kept their jobs.

Look, for all I know, he could've made that up. But I wouldn't be surprised if he was telling the truth. And that pisses me off to the nth degree.
 

Mithcha

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It's not really about the opposite sex, I honestly don't pay enough attention in general to notice a gender specific issue save maybe breast feeding. Seriously, always in my own world of 'this is broke, must fix' so yeah, however I noticed clothing in my own. Suppose it might extend to girls of a certain age as well, dunno, how many little girls wanted to dress as batman but were told a princess would be much prettier?

Saw a boy wearing a dress once, was about 4-5, where I work, the parent (his mother, incidentally) was ok with it but did essentially say she wanted to try and discourage it. Apparently it's fine for a 5 year old but not an 8 year old. My co-worker agreed saying it was a bit 'weird'. Found it kinda amusing as I'm a small guy and was at the time wearing trousers from Next petite section. Which, as the name likely gives away, is a woman's brand. The whole thing was just amusing.
 

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A friend of mine was basically disowned by her family when she came out to them as a trans-woman. Another friend of mine has had to deal with reprehensible people who wanted her to be a subdued house-slave.

Olas said:
Also, pregnancy and child birth, seriously I don't know how anyone could put up with that.
I never understood that either. It seems downright horrifying to me honestly; there are still people who die giving birth after all and even though most everyone lives through it, the process seems incredibly painful and drawn out. I don't see how any kind of instinct would make that kind of experience tolerable...even after having had one or two.