Professor arrested for shutting student's laptop on their hands
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This part I absolutely agree with. Some classes require constant attention from the students; others involve enough off topic rambling from the professor that you can surf the web during class and still take meticulous notes, and follow it up with an A+ in the class. As for the rest of it; I don't have a problem with you saying that personally, but let's just say there's a reason that I take my notes on a laptop -- as in, if a professor decided to say "no laptops in class," I would actually be able to get an exception.HankMan said:
OT: I wonder how hard the guy closed her laptop. Speaking as someone 3/4ths of the way through an education degree, it was really unprofessional of the professor to close the laptop like that. I had a music professor who would not hesitate to tell a student to leave class for the day, and actually kicked a few students out permanently for being disruptive, but he never even had to raise his voice to do it, let alone physically touch the students; if he said "bye bye," you left, and it was the end of the story. The way the professor in the news story handled things, he came across as someone who had no classroom management skills, and he deserves to get a minimum of a stern talking to over this; whether he deserves to be arrested or not depends on how hard he actually closed the laptop.
Holy crap, when did you graduate high school, 1890? That kind of crap hasn't flown in over 50 years, and those teachers should have been in deep trouble over it -- unless this happened at a private school, in which case it's still absurd, but not actually illegal. Hell, desk flipping has never flown -- it's a sign of terrible classroom management skills at best, and a rage problems at worst. Any teacher doing that kind of thing probably shouldn't be in the classroom at all, let alone teaching. Besides, forgetting the trauma done to the students, it's more disruptive than a student who isn't paying attention. A teacher who has to bully his students into listening needs not only classroom management lessons, but also some remedial training in how to deliver a lesson without completely losing student interest.emeraldrafael said:
No, I just graduated (EDIT) in 2010 from a really easy going high school. Up until about... 5 years ago? (yeah, was in 2006) you could still bring your hunting rifles to school. Then that stoppped for about 2 years because somoene was an idiot and threatened to shoot someone and no one believed him till he actually pointed the rifle at her. Then in 2008 you were allowed to again, because the shcool felt that no body was going to try a stunt like that again. Hell, on my midterms in 11th grade, I brought a bow, 20 arrows, and a tomahawk to school in a car one day cause I only had to be in school for half the day and planned to bag me a buck after I left.Owyn_Merrilin said:
ANd like I siad, you can say what you want, but it worked. you got the teacher's respect, and in today's day and age where kids have the easy excuse of ADD or political correctness, or having the teacher be nice to them, thats something thats hard to gain. Besides, these werent common place (well, not the desk flipping at least). Our teachers just ran on a mutual respect basis. Respect the teacher, he repsects you. Disrepsect the teacher, get ready to learn some respect. You're not going to waste his time, no sirree. The parents didnt care, cause the general concensus was that if it got results, it worked, and they filled out the card that said the school was allowed to take the paddle to you (I remember watching my mother sign it every year, cause she made me watch till I was seventh grade just so I knew what was going to happen). We got it easier then our parents did, so they thought anything they could do to toughen us up and keep us from growing into people like that girl in the article.
This is the crux. It's totally unprofessional and inappropriate. We wouldn't even be having this conversation if the two were colleagues on the clock. The behavior of the professor was inappropriate, period.Owyn_Merrilin said:
I've had professors throw people out of class for all sorts of reasons, including one person because they were sick. Never seen someone who was told to leave not do so, and you call campus security if that happens.
As someone who conducts training on a regular basis I would LOVE to do this if I caught a person doing this. It's a blantant lack of respect. That said as much as I'd think about doing it I would have handled it with moderation.
Im siding with the professor, sure it may not have been disruptive but it can be a distraction to other students. Seriously, a laptop closing on your fingers barely hurts at all. How that counts as assault I dont know. Teachers can barely say anything to students these days without having something happen to them.
This is COLLEGE! If a student doesn't want to learn... fucking let them. IT's their money and it's how it is everywhere.
plenty of people use laptops in class, to take notes mainly. this is not unheard of in these modern times.Dragonpit said:
Reading the comments on the college website from people actually in the lecture (anyone here get that far? Probably not), I'm inclined to support the professor in this.
But then again, I dislike "problem students", as it were, very much so.
But then again, I dislike "problem students", as it were, very much so.
You all are so quick to throw the student under the bus. There is not enough info here to really take sides. Maybe the student WASNT being a bad one. Maybe the Teacher is usually a prick. I aint juding who is wrong or right, since its hard to tell.
Fair enough, but that also hardly warrants having one's laptop closed on them. Some of the teachers I've worked with understood this. Which leaves the question: what was she doing that earned her this response? Or was she simply on her laptop?campofapproval said: