Long story, but, to keep it short and sweet I am forced to be indoors a whole lot, and I play MMO's much more then him. I've yet to kill, or even get the urge to kill anyone, but if I do it'd be because of empty headed politicians and air headed newscasters.
Prosecutors Blame "Violent" World of Warcraft for Breivik's Shooting Spree
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The prosecutors nor the article blame WoW for his killing spree...
The article states the facts, how much he played and so on, and that an expert witness claimed he had trouble separating the game from reality. This all came from the prosecutors. No where does it say they blame the killings on Wow.
The article states the facts, how much he played and so on, and that an expert witness claimed he had trouble separating the game from reality. This all came from the prosecutors. No where does it say they blame the killings on Wow.
In my eyes, dismissing this attack as the result of too many hours spent on video games is actually an insult to Brehvik's actual motivation and would probably serve as extra punishment.
Dismissing the ravings of a political and socio psychopath as that of a confused child, influenced by a virtual lifestyle.
Hope people understand this :S
Dismissing the ravings of a political and socio psychopath as that of a confused child, influenced by a virtual lifestyle.
Hope people understand this :S
If I recall, the prosecution are trying to prove that he's insane (which would get him locked up in a nuthouse instead of prison, but also completely discredit everything he stands for). It's the defense who are trying to prove he's a normal, sane individual (aside from the whole killing people business) and get him sent to prison.Bullfrogg said:
So if I had to guess, I'd say the statement of the number of hours a day he played WoW is part of an attempt by the prosecution to convince the jury that this guy is a complete nutjob. (However much of an insult that is to other WoW players!)
I don't think the issue lies with the factor of them blaming the game. More so, it has to do with the fact that, in a case where a man went on a major killing spree, his private love of video games is somehow more relevant than the facts of how he did it, where the weapons were obtained, who was affected, and so on. This wasn't a small case, not by a long shot, so why was WoW one of the biggest topics here? It has no right to be here, honestly. Maybe if it were mentioned as a side note, yea, but not as the primary topic. The things that should be focused on here are the actual case, and since the game is such a flushed out topic in the issue, it is plain to tell that someone is placing blame upon it.dogenzakaminion said:
The whole thing is preposterous anyway, he killed so many and they speak of his gaming addiction? I think there just might be a BIT more relevant information for them to be looking into. Just a hunch.
After reading the article, if it can be believed, the prosecution is seeking to imply Breivik is incapable, or has great difficulty in, separating reality from the fictional world of The World of Warcraft (there's a pun in there, but I'm much too snooty to have used it 
). If that is indeed a part of the case, I would have to wonder just how a world of fantastical elves, dwarves, dragons, magic and cartoonish violence the likes one would expect to see in The Looney Tunes, has any bearing on our quite un-fantastical world.
A sadly impaired man would seem to be responsible here, not the harmless content that he happened to have engaged in.
Correlation does not equal causation, as any good scientist would tell you.
). If that is indeed a part of the case, I would have to wonder just how a world of fantastical elves, dwarves, dragons, magic and cartoonish violence the likes one would expect to see in The Looney Tunes, has any bearing on our quite un-fantastical world.A sadly impaired man would seem to be responsible here, not the harmless content that he happened to have engaged in.
Correlation does not equal causation, as any good scientist would tell you.
Being mentally unwell does not, in most Western countries, excuse one form prison time. In fact, my father works in the area of a prison near us that is specifically designed and used to house and keep contained mentally impaired individuals convicted of a crime. Everything from the retarded to the depressed, anxious to psychopathic.MetalMagpie said:
It is mostly in TV that you see someone be sent to a mental health hospital in place of prison. The only time that will happen in reality, is if it can be proven that the individual who committed the crime is not mentally fit to stand trial and was unaware or otherwise unable to control their actions. In this case, the person is seen as not at legal fault and is instead sent to be treated so such things do not happen again.
Let's ignore the fact that WoW isn't all that bad for a second.
How many people play World of Warcraft? 10.2 million.
How many people have committed a crime "because of" World of Warcraft? This is the only one I've heard about.
So that's a ratio of 1:10,200,000
How many people play World of Warcraft? 10.2 million.
How many people have committed a crime "because of" World of Warcraft? This is the only one I've heard about.
So that's a ratio of 1:10,200,000
...you're not...being serious are you? I mean...World of f***ing Warcraft? 7 hours a day? How about we look at how many THOUSANDS of people play at least that much WoW and HAVEN'T killed a bunch of people? I mean...we've looked at CoD for f***'s sake, what makes anyone think that WoW leads to mass murder? The sheer...stupidity...I can't even...
I mean, he probably brushes his hair every day for consecutive months. Come on.
EDIT: Also, he attributed it to Muslims annoying him throughout his life.
I mean, he probably brushes his hair every day for consecutive months. Come on.
EDIT: Also, he attributed it to Muslims annoying him throughout his life.
Keeping in mind the sheer number of video games purchased by people and we have, what, a known fascist gunning random people down and the game gets the blame. Bearing in mind the sheer number of people who bought these games and haven't killed anyone (in real life), I find these stories to be a massive joke.
Well, there are a lot of idiots in WoW and those can make someone really aggressive. But I doubt that would actually lead to something like this.
Which is I think what they're going for.Clearing the Eye said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17936894
The prosecution favours the first report as it would discredit Breivik.BBC said:
And also because of that.BBC said:
I think the CoD thing taught him about ACOG sights. That's kinda like blaming a movie for showing you how to drive a car. I hope the prosecution gets slammed for that so that in future gaming would never be used again as indicative of violence. Though don't take that as i won't the guy to walk free, I just want some good to come out of this.
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand why the prosecution would favour the first report. Given that it's the job of a prosecutor to prove a suspects guilt and the defense to prove otherwise, wouldn't it be the reverse situation here, wherein the prosecutor favours the second report--thus being able to send him to prison? Or are you suggesting they want to send him to a a mental health hospital because he would greatly dislike it?MetalMagpie said:
That is exactly the question they're looking at.Clearing the Eye said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17752189
Unusually, the prosecution is arguing in favour of an "insane" verdict, while the defence (on Breivik's request) is arguing that he is sane and should go to prison.BBC said:
Sorry, I had a browser error and thought my comment had been scrubbed, so I started again.Clearing the Eye said:
Breivik has stated that he'd rather die than be found insane, so I'm guess that's why the prosecution have chosen the angle they have. I'm not privy to their discussions I'm afraid.
There are lots of interesting articles about it if you want to read.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17724535
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17836180
Or just search his name on the BBC website!