Proselytize me! Yes, go ahead and try to evangelize me if you dare...

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SteakHeart

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Mr.Mattress said:
SteakHeart said:
Singularly Datarific said:
I'ma be that guy and go for Christianity.
In a short short short short version, it's like insurance. Except it costs nothing at all in any way shape or form and the potential payoff is everlasting life. And if I'm wrong, then so what? What exactly will you have lost? Worst case scenario is that you live your life a little nicer to those around you. I do not get what is the drawback to it. There is not one thing mandatory about it, you are not judged like someone on trial (however much certain people think it is), there is no "heavenly report card" you receive each month. Also, you are then greenlit to date Christian girls who are awesome.
Mr.Mattress said:
I'm not gonna try to Convert you, but this is what I would say if I did:

God doesn't care if your Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Buddhist, Pastafanarian, Black, White, Asian, Blue Skinned, Tree Skinned, Man, Woman, Gay, Lesbian, Transvestite, Asexual, or Reproduce by Budding. As long as you are good on Earth, he will welcome you with open arms as the Pearly Gates of Heaven open up for your eternal happiness. This, you have my word.
My thoughts exactly. You both are my favorite kind of person.
Sorry, but My thing is completely different from the other guys thing. Mine says God doesn't care: His uses a Fallacy that basically says "Since we don't know the answer, the best bet is to be Christian". And I am highly appalled at that kind of behavior. I am not Betting, I actually have faith that a Divine Creator set everything in motion. I'm not saying "Since I don't know, I should go with this or else I'll burn in hell." That's a terrible terrible argument.
Crap. I didn't really look at them well enough I guess. I've just been thinking about that kind of stuff, and I guess it gets me confused in the end. Pardon me while I go sort out my thoughts. (What I was trying to say though is that you both presented your arguments in a thoughtful way.)
 

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Thanatus1992 said:
Singularly Datarific said:
I'ma be that guy and go for Christianity.
In a short short short short version, it's like insurance. Except it costs nothing at all in any way shape or form and the potential payoff is everlasting life. And if I'm wrong, then so what? What exactly will you have lost? Worst case scenario is that you live your life a little nicer to those around you. I do not get what is the drawback to it. There is not one thing mandatory about it, you are not judged like someone on trial (however much certain people think it is), there is no "heavenly report card" you receive each month. Also, you are then greenlit to date Christian girls who are awesome.
Oh Pascal's wager, every time I think people have outgrown you they bring you back, like an eighteen year-old girl clutching her favourite teddy bear from when she was three.
And less than nothing was added to the argument against Pascal's wager.

Mr.Mattress said:
I'm not gonna try to Convert you, but this is what I would say if I did:

God doesn't care if your Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Buddhist, Pastafanarian, Black, White, Asian, Blue Skinned, Tree Skinned, Man, Woman, Gay, Lesbian, Transvestite, Asexual, or Reproduce by Budding. As long as you are good on Earth, he will welcome you with open arms as the Pearly Gates of Heaven open up for your eternal happiness. This, you have my word.
Damn... I like you. Having no idea how outspoken you are in your daily life, I'm asking you now to speak more often.
 

chowderface

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I'll convert you to the bronies!

Join the herd. We have hugs. And cupcakes. You'll wanna steer clear of the Cupcakes though.

Did it work?
 

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Dags90 said:
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Yea, sure. I'm an asshole for trashing something I don't need--something which I never asked for.
Uh, maybe people were calling you an asshole for throwing away a paper product? There's this thing you can do with paper products that's good for the environment, but you've probably never heard of it.
That's the first thing that came to mind too.

Thanatus1992 said:
Singularly Datarific said:
Oh Pascal's wager, every time I think people have outgrown you they bring you back, like an eighteen year-old girl clutching her favourite teddy bear from when she was three.
Well, that little comparison really puts Pascal's wager into perspective. I do the whole "teddy bear thing" when I hit serious moments of dispair and depression. Maybe those that use Pascal's wager are just really scared and that's what gives them comfort? Actually, that could be applied to most religious people.

Also, am I crazy for thinking this post was about people shoving their fandoms (Ponies, etc.) in to the OP's face? That's what I got for some reason after reading the post, so are people pushing religion the same as crazy fans pushing their love of *insert thing here* the same?
 

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Giest4life said:
Yea, sure. I'm an asshole for trashing something I don't need--something which I never asked for.
Or maybe you could have politely handed it back to them, instead of trashing it right in front of them, rendering a product they payed for useless, if you kept it for a little while I can see trashing it because you don't want to walk back, but rudely tossing it right in front of their face is, well, rude
 

SteakHeart

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SirBryghtside said:
SirBryghtside said:
Singularly Datarific said:
I'ma be that guy and go for Christianity.
In a short short short short version, it's like insurance. Except it costs nothing at all in any way shape or form and the potential payoff is everlasting life. And if I'm wrong, then so what? What exactly will you have lost? Worst case scenario is that you live your life a little nicer to those around you. I do not get what is the drawback to it. There is not one thing mandatory about it, you are not judged like someone on trial (however much certain people think it is), there is no "heavenly report card" you receive each month. Also, you are then greenlit to date Christian girls who are awesome.
No, because that would be stupid. Christianity is wrong. No doubt, in my head. It's like getting insurance for, I don't know, a magical Charizard attack. So yeah. Fine. I'll convert to Christianity, if you convert to magical Charizard-ism.

...it doesn't really work :p

(note: I don't believe in a God, no doubt in my head, but I don't care if you do - all I'm sick of is stuff like the OP says. you have your beliefs, I have mine. Neither of us stick them down the other's throats, and we can both laugh about them. That simple)
SteakHeart said:
Mr.Mattress said:
SteakHeart said:
Singularly Datarific said:
I'ma be that guy and go for Christianity.
In a short short short short version, it's like insurance. Except it costs nothing at all in any way shape or form and the potential payoff is everlasting life. And if I'm wrong, then so what? What exactly will you have lost? Worst case scenario is that you live your life a little nicer to those around you. I do not get what is the drawback to it. There is not one thing mandatory about it, you are not judged like someone on trial (however much certain people think it is), there is no "heavenly report card" you receive each month. Also, you are then greenlit to date Christian girls who are awesome.
Mr.Mattress said:
I'm not gonna try to Convert you, but this is what I would say if I did:

God doesn't care if your Christian, Atheist, Muslim, Buddhist, Pastafanarian, Black, White, Asian, Blue Skinned, Tree Skinned, Man, Woman, Gay, Lesbian, Transvestite, Asexual, or Reproduce by Budding. As long as you are good on Earth, he will welcome you with open arms as the Pearly Gates of Heaven open up for your eternal happiness. This, you have my word.
My thoughts exactly. You both are my favorite kind of person.
Sorry, but My thing is completely different from the other guys thing. Mine says God doesn't care: His uses a Fallacy that basically says "Since we don't know the answer, the best bet is to be Christian". And I am highly appalled at that kind of behavior. I am not Betting, I actually have faith that a Divine Creator set everything in motion. I'm not saying "Since I don't know, I should go with this or else I'll burn in hell." That's a terrible terrible argument.
Crap. I didn't really look at them well enough I guess. I've just been thinking about that kind of stuff, and I guess it gets me confused in the end. Pardon me while I go sort out my thoughts. (What I was trying to say though is that you both presented your arguments in a thoughtful way.)
Hope I helped ;)

Mattress: You get it. You just get it. And I'm an Atheist saying that.
Helped him or me? Either way, I think I may have to do some soul-searching sometime. Rethink my postition on God.
 

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Innegativeion said:
And less than nothing was added to the argument against Pascal's wager.
And less still was added to the conversation value of this thread, but to address your issue.

There [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTsxZ-sMs7w]
can [http://stephenlaw.blogspot.com/2007/09/pascals-wager.html]
said. [http://www.rejectionofpascalswager.net/pascal.html]

Seriously, it's an extremely weak argument.
 

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Singularly Datarific said:
I'ma be that guy and go for Christianity.
In a short short short short version, it's like insurance. Except it costs nothing at all in any way shape or form and the potential payoff is everlasting life. And if I'm wrong, then so what? What exactly will you have lost? Worst case scenario is that you live your life a little nicer to those around you. I do not get what is the drawback to it. There is not one thing mandatory about it, you are not judged like someone on trial (however much certain people think it is), there is no "heavenly report card" you receive each month. Also, you are then greenlit to date Christian girls who are awesome.
Pascal's wager. You do realize that Pascal's logic has been debunked right? It goes something like this: With all actions, there is a cost-benefit that determines whether or not the action should or should not be performed. One of the primary components of the cost is time. So in the case of praying, you are expending time. Time which could be spent performing other actions that rank higher in value to an individual. As such, praying does in fact cost and there is in fact, no guarantee that God will actually come through on his end of the bargain. It's a bit like buying a used car off the internet without test driving it first.

Edit: Next time I will need to read through the entire page listing first
 

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SidingWithTheEnemy said:
Some of us just don't get it, do they?

You can't just barge in my condominum knock violently at my door and tell me something "new" I should believe because it's an universal truth.

You neither can shove your blinking, absurd and ridiculous Avatar in my face and hope that I convert to your fandom.

No, sharing the same awkward pictures, memes or youtube clips to evangelize me doesn't help your cause neither. It makes you just look more embarassing.
But some of us don't get it, they try anyway. Maybe because they are thick, maybe because they are bored or maybe because they have nothing else to do in their pitiful life. Poor sods.

[hr]
Some of us need to learn it the hard way.
So let's try the other way round.


Give it your best shot. Try to evangelize me! Now! Try to see if you can indoctrinate the ultimate truth unto me.
Whatever you fancy, just see if you are succesful, I dare you.
You have what it takes to make me convert to your fandom? Go ahead and try.
But if you fail just leave me in peace with your dogmatic misbeliefs and insulting, narrowminded concept of being able to force your own opinion onto someone else.

[hr]
On a side note:
For those who want to express their sympathy because they have a mutual feeling of being vainly evangelized:
You may well come by my side so that together we can overcome this eldritch horror, I just summoned.
Oh, to the others, feel free to comment something else if you are more into a small talk like mood and are struck by lethargic apathy but still willing to type something, I won't be offended by apathy.

Now go on and do your worst!

The Ultimite true.

You will die, as will i, your loved ones, friends, .....

and nothing can stop it.
 

Giest4life

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Furioso said:
Giest4life said:
Yea, sure. I'm an asshole for trashing something I don't need--something which I never asked for.
Or maybe you could have politely handed it back to them, instead of trashing it right in front of them, rendering a product they payed for useless, if you kept it for a little while I can see trashing it because you don't want to walk back, but rudely tossing it right in front of their face is, well, rude
No, I shouldn't have handed it back. I reciprocated his attitude. He didn't politely ask me if I was interested in learning more about Christianity. He didn't ask me if he could give me a copy of the Bible. And he didn't apologize to me for giving me something which I clearly showed no interest in.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy was making a sales pitch for his god, only that I wasn't interested. I don't return mail from advertisers. I don't run after the guy to hand him back the restaurant brochures he leaves on my doorstep, in my mailbox, or on the hood of my car. Not needing something can be considered the literal definition of the noun "trash." I put it where it belonged.
 

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You will believe a book was written by God even though it appeared during a time when urine was still being used as a laundry detergent.
 

Furioso

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Giest4life said:
Furioso said:
Giest4life said:
Yea, sure. I'm an asshole for trashing something I don't need--something which I never asked for.
Or maybe you could have politely handed it back to them, instead of trashing it right in front of them, rendering a product they payed for useless, if you kept it for a little while I can see trashing it because you don't want to walk back, but rudely tossing it right in front of their face is, well, rude
No, I shouldn't have handed it back. I reciprocated his attitude. He didn't politely ask me if I was interested in learning more about Christianity. He didn't ask me if he could give me a copy of the Bible. And he didn't apologize to me for giving me something which I clearly showed no interest in.

As far as I'm concerned, the guy was making a sales pitch for his god, only that I wasn't interested. I don't return mail from advertisers. I don't run after the guy to hand him back the restaurant brochures he leaves on my doorstep, in my mailbox, or on the hood of my car. Not needing something can be considered the literal definition of the noun "trash." I put it where it belonged.
That's another thing that bugged me, if you were just walking along it would have been nearly impossible to shove a book into your hand if your arms were at your side, you would have had to take it, unless of course he actually did grab your arm, then shove it into your hand where the palm would have been close to your side, and if he did do that, I would have thrown the book at him
 

doggie135

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I'm staying on your side OP. There's no possible way I'm going to become an evangelical, or even act like one.
 

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Learn of Cthullu! Learn of how he will rise from the dark depths of Ry'Leh and conquer the Earth! Pray you are eaten first! If not, you will be tortured, then eaten, but you won't care! You'll be insane, but you won't care! You'll think your insane, but your sane, yet think your sane, and are not! There's no knowing anything anymore when you learn of Cthullu! Yee hee haa haa ha!