Protein World: "Body Positivity" and a lesson on how not to motivate people

[StealthLesbian]

Ok, now I have to say something. Mostly because I'm sick and tired of pop culture as a whole and sick and tired of not saying anything about it. Remember when people would only gossip BEHIND your back? I liked that, is it ok to be fat? Are you fat? No? then it aint your fucking problem. People only get one life, regardless of whatever any one person thinks comes after this, the only thing we know for sure is we get this one. So who the fuck cares if somebody wants to be fat? 'But their not healthy!' Not your body, not your problem, if their diet and weight kill them sooner, as long as they were fat and happy then its probably what they wanted out of life. Now i'm not discouraging people who want to lose weight, more power to you. All I'm saying is both sides and really the entire world take anything and everything these days as an excuse to be dickheads to each other and or piss and moan on the internet. I'm fucking tired of it, yes i would like to go back to the days when everyone left everyone else alone...Atleast in public, thanks.

*This has been your daily rant from the crotchety old lady who usually stays in the corner.*

 

[Mazinger-Z]

Yeah, no for profit company should ever behave so insufferably smug, insensitive, and unapologetic. Could you imagine the backlash something like this might cause if say, some enthusiast publications suddenly snapped and started insulting their customer base. If a bunch of them got together and simultaneously wrote several stories that all basically boiled down to "We don't need you as customers. We can find better customers."? I mean, that would be colossally stupid.

Dude, get out. Take it elsewhere. Take to a thread that's even a TINY bit related.

I don't know what you mean -

Yes you do. Your example had NOTHING to do directly with Protein World. You're fooling less than no-one. Keep that shit in the Game Industry Discussion cesspit.

There are a lot of parallels here with regards to "Entitled Gamers" and the ME3 debacle, especially in BioWare's initial response to the whole thing, and the non-apology of releasing the Extended Cut.

Really, the only non-overlap is that Harriet probably wasn't the customer they were trying to appeal to, and gamers are the customers most gaming outlets are trying to appeal to.

But then one runs on outrage and clickbait and the other runs on self-image, they have to branch off at some point.

 

[lacktheknack]

Yeah, no for profit company should ever behave so insufferably smug, insensitive, and unapologetic. Could you imagine the backlash something like this might cause if say, some enthusiast publications suddenly snapped and started insulting their customer base. If a bunch of them got together and simultaneously wrote several stories that all basically boiled down to "We don't need you as customers. We can find better customers."? I mean, that would be colossally stupid.

Dude, get out. Take it elsewhere. Take to a thread that's even a TINY bit related.

I don't know what you mean -

Yes you do. Your example had NOTHING to do directly with Protein World. You're fooling less than no-one. Keep that shit in the Game Industry Discussion cesspit.

There are a lot of parallels here with regards to "Entitled Gamers" and the ME3 debacle, especially in BioWare's initial response to the whole thing, and the non-apology of releasing the Extended Cut.

Really, the only non-overlap is that Harriet probably wasn't the customer they were trying to appeal to, and gamers are the customers most gaming outlets are trying to appeal to.

But then one runs on outrage and clickbait and the other runs on self-image, they have to branch off at some point.

He wasn't referring to the ME3 debacle, but I appreciate the effort. xD

I'd say that there's other major non-parallels, such as the outrage over this being "it's sexist" (an actual problem if true) and the other being "it's crap" (not actually a problem, just disappointing), or one being a fuss over advertising and the other being a fuss over a finished product, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[thoughtwrangler]

The campaign isn't the problem. Having a beach body is a thing, and it's a concept that's been around since whenever people first got the idea to congregate in uncomfortably hot, sandy, overly-sunny places to swim in gross water that fish have pooped in.

It's the response, and the smugness of the whole attitude of "we're not judging you, we're saying you're fat and therefore fail to pass an arbitrary societal litmus test of approval. You must be insecure."

You know what? I work out 5 times a week, I eat healthy. I work to try to improve myself. And you know why? None of your damned business, that's why. It's not so that busybody idiots can hold me up to a standard and say "you pass". Those people can both keep their standards to themselves and screw themselves with an unlubed chainsaw.

Anyone who is "bothered" or disgusted by fat people... I'm not talking about people who don't want to date a fat person or aren't attracted to them. I'm talking about people who are actually disgusted by fat people. Needs to learn to shut their eyes. If they don't have the willpower to do that, sew them shut. They obviously lack the maturity to use their optical nerves for any useful purpose anyway. Plus, they'll be happier that way. The only way that seeing fat people bothers, unsettles or compels a person to complain over the moral repugnance of it all is if their life is such a golden rainbow road of joy and happiness that they just can't stand a completely understandable imperfection.

Captcha: Tomato Pie.
... I'm not sure what that is, but I really don't think that will help matters to much.

 

[manic_depressive13]

Why are they using someone with absolutely no muscle mass to advertise protein? That model isn't "fit", she's skinny, and someone has used photoshop quite liberally to make it look like she has hips and emphasise what little definition she has. People are really defending that type of body as "fit and healthy"? If that's what you think fit looks like, you have no idea. Forget fat. Women aren't even allowed to have muscle.

 

[Mazinger-Z]

He wasn't referring to the ME3 debacle, but I appreciate the effort. xD

I'd say that there's other major non-parallels, such as the outrage over this being "it's sexist" (an actual problem if true) and the other being "it's crap" (not actually a problem, just disappointing), or one being a fuss over advertising and the other being a fuss over a finished product, but that's neither here nor there.

But it's not sexist. It's advertising a result from usage of the product. The only thing to be fickle about is that it's misleading in not including the effort required to gain that result (the exercise, the dieting, etc).

Is this sexist?

Why are they using someone with absolutely no muscle mass to advertise protein? That model isn't "fit", she's skinny, and someone has used photoshop quite liberally to make it look like she has hips and emphasise what little definition she has. People are really defending that type of body as "fit and healthy"? If that's what you think fit looks like, you have no idea. Forget fat. Women aren't even allowed to have muscle.

Women have less muscle density than men on average. And /r/hardbodies on reddit would like a word.

And finally:

http://www.proteinworld.com/weight-loss-collection.html

 

[NewClassic_v1legacy]

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