PS4 Transformed into "PlayBook 4" Laptop by Enterprising Engineer

[StewShearerOld]

PS4 Transformed into "PlayBook 4" Laptop by Enterprising Engineer

Ed Zarick has unveiled the "PlayBook 4," a custom-made PS4 laptop that follows in the footsteps of his Xbook One.

You may recall back in September when hobbyist engineer Ed Zarick unveiled <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137438-Xbook-One-Is-The-Xbox-One-Laptop>the Xbook One. A customized version of <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/tag/view/xbox%20one>the Xbox One, it transformed the fancy new console into an even fancier laptop complete with a custom chassis and a built-in LED screen. Now, after a swath of requests from gamers sitting on the opposite end of the console wars, Zarick has returned with a new laptop redesign of the PlayStation 4.

Dubbed the PlayBook 4, Zarick's latest creation takes the innards of <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/topics/ps4>a PS4, and stuffs them into a custom, 3D printed and laser cut chassis. This is then coupled with a 22" Vizio 1080p LED LCD TV screen; the same kind he used in the construction of the Xbook One. The TV wouldn't be the only repeat component he used in the creation of the PlayBook. "What I did when I built the XBOOK ONE was design it in a way that I could make a PS4 [version] in the future," he said, speaking to The Escapist. " just had no plans to do it this quickly." It only took "about 8 hours" of work, in turn, to modify the design and adjust the mounting locations so that they better fit the PS4.

The ease of the design process shouldn't, in any way, suggest that the PlayBook 4 is less impressive than the Xbook One. In addition to its custom casing and built-in screen, it maintains the WiFi capability of the PS4. An HDMI-out port can also be included if customers are interested in paying a bit extra for the ability to switch over to a larger television.

The only real downer is that fact that these (understandably) don't come cheap. Even if you provide your own PS4, a PlayBook 4 is going to cost you $1,095 before shipping. Without a pre-purchased PS4, you're looking at a solid $1,400 investment. It's also worth noting that, while the design of the PlayBook 4 is obviously more friendly to gamers on the go, the PlayBook 4 doesn't have a internal battery and will need to be plugged in to play. Regardless, as someone who loves his PS4, I can personally say that I'd love to get my hands on one of these. Take a look at them and let us know what you think.

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[Roxas1359]

I always love seeing how people turn the consoles into laptops, I don't know why but it's always interesting to see the end result. It's the same on when I see people turn older consoles into handhelds as well, such as the SNES adapters. My favorite console mod of all time though still has to go to the Nintoaster and the Nintable.

Spoiler: Nintoaster

Spoiler: Nintable

 

[Hairless Mammoth]

While these are impressive, I still can't believe there's enough of a market for this guy to be "swamped with requests". Ben Heck doesn't even have a "storefront" on his site. You email him with requests for whatever nifty console laptop/controller mods you're interested in getting. Sure there's a few highballers that are in that $1000-$1500 price bracket. Although, most people with space issues, like college students in cramped dorms, are probably also tight on cash. If that's the case they could just get PS4/Xbone and tv for about $500 and, if space is really tight, get a $20 VESA desk mount to swing the monitor out of the way when not needed. (Mine works wonders even on my giant home desk.) The portability aspect of having a system with built in monitor is also kinda negated by the facts that it lacks a battery and online gaming's dominance over LAN parties.[footnote]Sorry if I said this same thing in the xbone article and sound like a broken record. I just think he's exaggerating the apparent demand to get more sales. It's legitimate tactic for a small guy, so more power to him there, though.[/footnote] I'd love to see someone wire up a decent battery with proper charging circuit for even a 6th gen console.

This still makes me jealous I haven't the funds to make/buy a CNC router or 3D printer. I can barely fit anything I need to work with on my mini-mill's table. At least steel is doable on that, though. Oh well, at least these guy's give me inspiration on how to waste my time and materials when I can afford them.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

Being an avid Custom PC modder myself, I always love to see projects like this. I have never done a console mod myself, but I could see there being a demand for this type of mod among teens and college students who have a need for portable gaming. I personally prefer PC gaming, but I can see how those that use consoles to play with their friends on consoles could really appreciate something like this.

I too remember hauling my gaming system over to a friends house to play because their brother was hogging theirs and we wanted to be able to play too, then trying to figure out how to hook it up to their TV because not all TVs could hook up the same way and then having to haul a vcr/dvd player from another room in order to hook it up to a TV they had available. This solves those problems for on the go console gamers. Of course hauling a gaming console is easier than hauling a gaming rig but it is still a pain in the ass to do. For teens these days having to haul their console back and froth between houses, or even trying to walk to a friends house with their console in their arms, this would be a much appreciated alternative.

 

[J Tyran]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

 

[Hairless Mammoth]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

They're still impressive in being cases designed to hold both the console and TV's guts in a small form factor that doesn't overheat, setting up the machines to make the parts, carefully disassembling the old devices, and rewiring everything on every unit he makes. It would be quite tedious to do this more than a few times a month. (At least, writing new G-code and wiring diagrams every time isn't necessary.)

But, I still agree that these are an expensive solution to a rare problem. This is a conversation piece, mostly. (And nowhere near impressive as doing it yourself.) Either a gaming laptop around $1500, some cheap luggage that fits both the console and TV plus some towels to cushion them, or a portable game monitor/carry bag, like this [http://www.walmart.com/ip/32107044?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=&wl5=pla&wl6=51320962143&veh=sem], are all that's needed to take a full system with you, and you don't need to worry about voiding your warranty with those methods.

(I've done the luggage deal many times, except my TV was a 20" CRT, so no single, easy to carry package. I even still have spare (proprietary and HDMI) cables to take with me, so all I have to do is yank out the box, grab a controller and an octopus made out of copper and run. Setting them back up at home involves two quick connections and sliding the console back onto its shelf. Too bad I don't take my systems on field trips anymore.)

 

[Svarr]

I'll take twenty.

Really though, i don't care about "There's something else out there that's better, blaarrgh! rawr.. rawrawrawra" I'm just impressed by the fact that it was done, it's not really newsworthy in my opinion but it also gives fun things to read about in a less serious tone every now and then.

"Do approved", thanks for the article!

:3

 

[Strazdas]

They're still impressive in being cases designed to hold both the console and TV's guts in a small form factor that doesn't overheat,

Otherwise known as "a laptop"

TV innards really are very small nowadays, 99.9% of the space in TVs are the screen itself. thats why they got so thin. as far as fitting a PS4 inside a case, well its using in part tablet components and already fits in a small box, so yeah.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

I always love seeing how people turn the consoles into laptops, I don't know why but it's always interesting to see the end result. It's the same on when I see people turn older consoles into handhelds as well, such as the SNES adapters. My favorite console mod of all time though still has to go to the Nintoaster and the Nintable.

Spoiler: Nintoaster

Spoiler: Nintable

One R2 to rule them all..

Spoiler: Ultimate Console

http://www.onextrapixel.com/2012/04/12/50-amazing-console-mods/

Only problem is if you unplug something how will you ever remember where to plug it back in? * AHHHHH!*

 

[Liam Steel]

Really amazing what you can do with a 3D printer. Seems like an expensive item both in terms of cost and time setting up. But a consumer can become a manufacturer if he/she is willing to make the investment.

As to this, seems a bit awkward but never the less cool. I vaguely recall an official PS1 (or was it 2?) That was portable kinda like a portable DVD player. I was surprised that never caught on. Instead we see these separate portable gaming systems like the XDS and PS[P/Vita]. I know they'd be expensive and power hungry but making official portable consoles would be better than letting 3rd parties come in and retrofit your console and potential profits.

 

[J Tyran]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

EDIT: Also, you should consider that in order to play with their friends, they have to play on whatever platform their friends play on, so if their friends all play on playstation, they have to play on playstation in order to play with them online as well. A computer would not help them if their goal is to play with their friends that are on playstations.

 

[J Tyran]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

Where do you live that the only TVs without HDMI's are in hotels? That comes across as extremely sheltered. LOL MANY families do not yet have HDMI tvs in all rooms in their house. I live in the wealthiest per sq ft county in the state of Texas surrounded by billionaires and still many do not have all HDMI TVSs yet here. My parents do not even own an HDMI TV yet, My sister does not either, her kids are forced to use the cables and hook up via a dvd player. Yes, we have people of different income levels that are all friends here, so yea the guy who has enough money to afford this gaming system can still bring it to a friends house who does not and they can still play together.

I think you are not the one thinking this through. Many in the US do not have HDMI TVs in every room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html?_r=0
http://press.anu.edu.au/agenda/016/03/mobile_devices/ch10s05.html

No, you do not need to be part of a gaming family to understand that wealthy kids and middle class kids often play together too.

 

[J Tyran]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

Where do you live that the only TVs without HDMI's are in hotels? That comes across as extremely sheltered. LOL MANY families do not yet have HDMI tvs in all rooms in their house. I live in the wealthiest per sq ft county in the state of Texas surrounded by billionaires and still many do not have all HDMI TVSs yet here. My parents do not even own an HDMI TV yet, My sister does not either, her kids are forced to use the cables and hook up via a dvd player. Yes, we have people of different income levels that are all friends here, so yea the guy who has enough money to afford this gaming system can still bring it to a friends house who does not and they can still play together.

I think you are not the one thinking this through. Many in the US do not have HDMI TVs in every room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html?_r=0
http://press.anu.edu.au/agenda/016/03/mobile_devices/ch10s05.html

No, you do not need to be part of a gaming family to understand that wealthy kids and middle class kids often play together too.

Neither of those links support your case, further more you suggest a $1500 soloution to someone poor enough to lack a TV made within the last years rather than a $25 HDMI>RCA conversion lead. So yeah in your mind this is a plausible scenario "Oh I'm going to take my modern digital output only console to XXXXXs house, darnit they only have an old fashioned TV! Good news though, I can spend around $1400 more than a cheap TV to carry with me for a Playstation 4 that looks like a laptop! Genius".

Keep clutching them straws.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

Where do you live that the only TVs without HDMI's are in hotels? That comes across as extremely sheltered. LOL MANY families do not yet have HDMI tvs in all rooms in their house. I live in the wealthiest per sq ft county in the state of Texas surrounded by billionaires and still many do not have all HDMI TVSs yet here. My parents do not even own an HDMI TV yet, My sister does not either, her kids are forced to use the cables and hook up via a dvd player. Yes, we have people of different income levels that are all friends here, so yea the guy who has enough money to afford this gaming system can still bring it to a friends house who does not and they can still play together.

I think you are not the one thinking this through. Many in the US do not have HDMI TVs in every room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html?_r=0
http://press.anu.edu.au/agenda/016/03/mobile_devices/ch10s05.html

No, you do not need to be part of a gaming family to understand that wealthy kids and middle class kids often play together too.

Neither of those links support your case, further more you suggest a $1500 soloution to someone poor enough to lack a TV made within the last years rather than a $25 HDMI>RCA conversion lead. So yeah in your mind this is a plausible scenario "Oh I'm going to take my modern digital output only console to XXXXXs house, darnit they only have an old fashioned TV! Good news though, I can spend around $1400 more than a cheap TV to carry with me for a Playstation 4 that looks like a laptop! Genius".

Keep clutching them straws.

Here is a poll for you to get an idea of just the people on this site who either own non HDMI tv's or know someone who does:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.862991-Poll-Do-you-or-someone-you-know-still-own-non-HDMI-TVs

I never suggested a $1500 solution to a person poor enough not to afford an HDMI tv, I suggested that a person who can afford such can still take it to a friends house and not worry about what that family can afford and still have fun playing playstation as well.
Yea the reason I brought my game stations to my friends houses as well was because they did not have one for me to play on, that is no different these days with kids as it was then. Sure many have an HDMI tv in their living room, then older TVs in their kids rooms, then you get there and they have a brother hogging the TV in the living room with the playstation and his friends sitting there so you have no hope of you and your friends playing at all unless you somehow can come up with a TV and another gamestation. Where I grew up we have teens who drove lamborghinis in school with kids who drove cars that looked like this:

Spoiler: POS car

We all went to each others houses and hung out together regardless of how much money each family has. I would have loved to have one of these to solve the problems associated with trying to haul and hook up a game system at a friends house.

Were you an only child who never had to fight with siblings over use of the TV or gaming systems and never went to friends houses I am curious as to how you gain such a perspective? Wealthy kids and non wealthy kids play together all the time here, this is considered normal.

 

[J Tyran]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

Where do you live that the only TVs without HDMI's are in hotels? That comes across as extremely sheltered. LOL MANY families do not yet have HDMI tvs in all rooms in their house. I live in the wealthiest per sq ft county in the state of Texas surrounded by billionaires and still many do not have all HDMI TVSs yet here. My parents do not even own an HDMI TV yet, My sister does not either, her kids are forced to use the cables and hook up via a dvd player. Yes, we have people of different income levels that are all friends here, so yea the guy who has enough money to afford this gaming system can still bring it to a friends house who does not and they can still play together.

I think you are not the one thinking this through. Many in the US do not have HDMI TVs in every room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html?_r=0
http://press.anu.edu.au/agenda/016/03/mobile_devices/ch10s05.html

No, you do not need to be part of a gaming family to understand that wealthy kids and middle class kids often play together too.

Neither of those links support your case, further more you suggest a $1500 soloution to someone poor enough to lack a TV made within the last years rather than a $25 HDMI>RCA conversion lead. So yeah in your mind this is a plausible scenario "Oh I'm going to take my modern digital output only console to XXXXXs house, darnit they only have an old fashioned TV! Good news though, I can spend around $1400 more than a cheap TV to carry with me for a Playstation 4 that looks like a laptop! Genius".

Keep clutching them straws.

Here is a poll for you to get an idea of just the people on this site who either own non HDMI tv's or know someone who does:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.862991-Poll-Do-you-or-someone-you-know-still-own-non-HDMI-TVs

I never suggested a $1500 solution to a person poor enough not to afford an HDMI tv, I suggested that a person who can afford such can still take it to a friends house and not worry about what that family can afford and still have fun playing playstation as well.
Yea the reason I brought my game stations to my friends houses as well was because they did not have one for me to play on, that is no different these days with kids as it was then. Sure many have an HDMI tv in their living room, then older TVs in their kids rooms, then you get there and they have a brother hogging the TV in the living room with the playstation and his friends sitting there so you have no hope of you and your friends playing at all unless you somehow can come up with a TV and another gamestation. Where I grew up we have teens who drove lamborghinis in school with kids who drove cars that looked like this:

Spoiler: POS car

We all went to each others houses and hung out together regardless of how much money each family has. I would have loved to have one of these to solve the problems associated with trying to haul and hook up a game system at a friends house.

Were you an only child who never had to fight with siblings over use of the TV or gaming systems and never went to friends houses I am curious as to how you gain such a perspective? Wealthy kids and non wealthy kids play together all the time here, this is considered normal.

So several paragraphs and you still didn't explain how this is better than just taking the console and a $25 HDMI>RCA cable... If there is only one TV in the house that isn't HDMI capable and the brother is hogging it chances are a Playstation 4 coming to the house would be an outstanding once in a lifetime experience and the brother would want in on it...

As for my growing up... I grew up on a rough council estate with most of my friends having more than one kid, divorced parents, jailed parents... No Lambos whatsoever though, an Escort XR3i was about as good as it got and no-one was that poor that every house didn't have several TVs in.

Anyone that poor didn't have house at all and Playstation was the least of their concerns.

 

[Lil devils x_v1legacy]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

Where do you live that the only TVs without HDMI's are in hotels? That comes across as extremely sheltered. LOL MANY families do not yet have HDMI tvs in all rooms in their house. I live in the wealthiest per sq ft county in the state of Texas surrounded by billionaires and still many do not have all HDMI TVSs yet here. My parents do not even own an HDMI TV yet, My sister does not either, her kids are forced to use the cables and hook up via a dvd player. Yes, we have people of different income levels that are all friends here, so yea the guy who has enough money to afford this gaming system can still bring it to a friends house who does not and they can still play together.

I think you are not the one thinking this through. Many in the US do not have HDMI TVs in every room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html?_r=0
http://press.anu.edu.au/agenda/016/03/mobile_devices/ch10s05.html

No, you do not need to be part of a gaming family to understand that wealthy kids and middle class kids often play together too.

Neither of those links support your case, further more you suggest a $1500 soloution to someone poor enough to lack a TV made within the last years rather than a $25 HDMI>RCA conversion lead. So yeah in your mind this is a plausible scenario "Oh I'm going to take my modern digital output only console to XXXXXs house, darnit they only have an old fashioned TV! Good news though, I can spend around $1400 more than a cheap TV to carry with me for a Playstation 4 that looks like a laptop! Genius".

Keep clutching them straws.

Here is a poll for you to get an idea of just the people on this site who either own non HDMI tv's or know someone who does:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.862991-Poll-Do-you-or-someone-you-know-still-own-non-HDMI-TVs

I never suggested a $1500 solution to a person poor enough not to afford an HDMI tv, I suggested that a person who can afford such can still take it to a friends house and not worry about what that family can afford and still have fun playing playstation as well.
Yea the reason I brought my game stations to my friends houses as well was because they did not have one for me to play on, that is no different these days with kids as it was then. Sure many have an HDMI tv in their living room, then older TVs in their kids rooms, then you get there and they have a brother hogging the TV in the living room with the playstation and his friends sitting there so you have no hope of you and your friends playing at all unless you somehow can come up with a TV and another gamestation. Where I grew up we have teens who drove lamborghinis in school with kids who drove cars that looked like this:

Spoiler: POS car

We all went to each others houses and hung out together regardless of how much money each family has. I would have loved to have one of these to solve the problems associated with trying to haul and hook up a game system at a friends house.

Were you an only child who never had to fight with siblings over use of the TV or gaming systems and never went to friends houses I am curious as to how you gain such a perspective? Wealthy kids and non wealthy kids play together all the time here, this is considered normal.

So several paragraphs and you still didn't explain how this is better than just taking the console and a $25 HDMI>RCA cable... If there is only one TV in the house that isn't HDMI capable and the brother is hogging it chances are a Playstation 4 coming to the house would be an outstanding once in a lifetime experience and the brother would want in on it...

As for my growing up... I grew up on a rough council estate with most of my friends having more than one kid, divorced parents, jailed parents... No Lambos whatsoever though, an Escort XR3i was about as good as it got and no-one was that poor that every house didn't have several TVs in.

Anyone that poor didn't have house at all and Playstation was the least of their concerns.

You do realize that not all TVs will hook up to rca cables either? My parents TV, for example, only has a connection that looks like this:

Spoiler

some only have this:

Spoiler: DVI

SOme only have this:

Spoiler: SVideo

Yes, people often only have one HDMI TV and have playstation 4's, they expect their kids to share, problem is there is often not enough playstation to go around when kids have friends over at the same time.

I know it is hard for you to imagine that someone else might actually want one of these but I am sure there are many who do. Simply because you do not see a need for it does not mean you should be offended at anyone who does. Honestly, I personally have no need for one of these currently but you are making the best case for buying one ever. I could make one of these if I really wanted to since I have the skills to do so, however, with as much as you have been offended at their mere existence, I think I should buy one from this guy just to spite you, then send the picture of it with hearts on it to all my friends to use as their avatar so you will see it wherever they post. It is silly to argue about whether someone might want a product you do not. When I was a teen, I would have LOVED to have one.

 

[J Tyran]

While these are impressive,

No they aren't, not really. Its big and bulky and still expensive, something like a Gigabyte Aorus X3 [http://www.aorus.com/x3.aspx] outperforms it and is a fraction of the size.

SO will this allow teens to play with their friends on play station ? If it doesn't serve that purpose, it is irrelevant to what they were trying to do here. The issue they are resolving here are kids/ teens/ young adults being able to play with their friends on play stations and have it portable.

We all know what PC gaming can do, but what PC gaming can and cannot do is irrelevant to kids wanting to play with their friends on playstations. LOL

Right... because kids will want an overpriced and impractical Playstation crammed into an oversized laptop form factor. Something we have all seen people want of course? All those kids on trains and busses with things like these... Of all the rebuttals you could have come up with this is probably the poorest, even when Sony tried that PS1 with a screen for cars and things it flopped miserably. Laptops like that? Sell pretty well yet there is no market for these apart from a few people that want one because they want one (where there is nothing wrong with that really, its just ass backwards in the face of superior products). I know you are defensive about the consoles lack of performance, thats understandable and it must hurt to see how a even the "portable" gaming PCs surpass consoles in performance now but trying to claim a home brew PS4 case mod is the most awesome and practical thing ever is a bit of a stretch.

Even if this argument could actually stand the PS4 doesn't even have that many local co-op games, so you would end up taking turns. In which case again its edged out by a gaming laptop again.


(waits for you to insert fake and impractical scenario where you claim people have done rather than just carrying a console to a freinds and plugging a console in or are your friends really eager to play angry birds co-op on a $1500 playstation on the bus?)

I am not talking about kids on trains and buses, in fact there are no kids on trains and buses here since there is no public transport here. Instead, we have kids shuffling back and forth between divorced parents houses lugging their game stations (lifelines to their friends at school) with them. We see kids walking to their friends houses carrying playstations in their arms as well so they can play too because their friends brother won't share with them, then you get there and find out their TV doesn't even hook up to it so how are you guys supposed to play it when you do not even have the right hook ups?

If you were spared this, you were lucky, because where I come from, I remember hauling my game systems and my gaming rigs around to friends houses and it is a terrible pain in the ass to do. Many kids haul their game system around, and the small portable hand helds do nothing to solve the problem for it's intended use.

Defensive of consoles... WHAAA? I am a pc gamer, builder, and modder so what exactly am I defensive about? I build not only my own computers, but actually mod parts for them ( not just cases). I am not afraid to solder a motherboard as needed. I personally have never even attempted a console mod, but there is no reason I should belittle them because they choose to, that would make me an ass, and I really do not see any point in behaving in such ways simply because they have a different preference.

Relax, It is okay if we Pc gamers encourage console modders for doing their thing. We are all one gaming family. It comes across as extremely creepy to flip out on someone patting a modder on the back, we have nothing to be threatened by. I see both consoles and PC gaming having their place, besides, consoles are great for parties, do you really want a bunch of drunks manhandling your gaming rig, no throw a playstation out there for them to kick around and spill beer on instead. LOL

The only TVs around without a HDMI port are hotel ones, why triple the size of the console they have to carry and weld on a small screen instead of just carrying the console there and plugging it in? If you are talking about a less developed country with people having 10yr old+ TVs as the most common ones around a PS4 is already a lot of money there, so more than tripling the cost of a PS4 is a practical solution to that? Oh yeah the parties, lets not forget that! So instead of spilling booze on a $400 Playstation let them spill it on on a $1500 Playstation! Of course thats only for the parties at a place that has a non existent TV that lacks HDMI ports.

You're really not thinking any of this through.

You might be part of some kind of gaming family but I'm not, I'm not one of you.

Where do you live that the only TVs without HDMI's are in hotels? That comes across as extremely sheltered. LOL MANY families do not yet have HDMI tvs in all rooms in their house. I live in the wealthiest per sq ft county in the state of Texas surrounded by billionaires and still many do not have all HDMI TVSs yet here. My parents do not even own an HDMI TV yet, My sister does not either, her kids are forced to use the cables and hook up via a dvd player. Yes, we have people of different income levels that are all friends here, so yea the guy who has enough money to afford this gaming system can still bring it to a friends house who does not and they can still play together.

I think you are not the one thinking this through. Many in the US do not have HDMI TVs in every room.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/business/media/03television.html?_r=0
http://press.anu.edu.au/agenda/016/03/mobile_devices/ch10s05.html

No, you do not need to be part of a gaming family to understand that wealthy kids and middle class kids often play together too.

Neither of those links support your case, further more you suggest a $1500 soloution to someone poor enough to lack a TV made within the last years rather than a $25 HDMI>RCA conversion lead. So yeah in your mind this is a plausible scenario "Oh I'm going to take my modern digital output only console to XXXXXs house, darnit they only have an old fashioned TV! Good news though, I can spend around $1400 more than a cheap TV to carry with me for a Playstation 4 that looks like a laptop! Genius".

Keep clutching them straws.

Here is a poll for you to get an idea of just the people on this site who either own non HDMI tv's or know someone who does:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.862991-Poll-Do-you-or-someone-you-know-still-own-non-HDMI-TVs

I never suggested a $1500 solution to a person poor enough not to afford an HDMI tv, I suggested that a person who can afford such can still take it to a friends house and not worry about what that family can afford and still have fun playing playstation as well.
Yea the reason I brought my game stations to my friends houses as well was because they did not have one for me to play on, that is no different these days with kids as it was then. Sure many have an HDMI tv in their living room, then older TVs in their kids rooms, then you get there and they have a brother hogging the TV in the living room with the playstation and his friends sitting there so you have no hope of you and your friends playing at all unless you somehow can come up with a TV and another gamestation. Where I grew up we have teens who drove lamborghinis in school with kids who drove cars that looked like this:

Spoiler: POS car

We all went to each others houses and hung out together regardless of how much money each family has. I would have loved to have one of these to solve the problems associated with trying to haul and hook up a game system at a friends house.

Were you an only child who never had to fight with siblings over use of the TV or gaming systems and never went to friends houses I am curious as to how you gain such a perspective? Wealthy kids and non wealthy kids play together all the time here, this is considered normal.

So several paragraphs and you still didn't explain how this is better than just taking the console and a $25 HDMI>RCA cable... If there is only one TV in the house that isn't HDMI capable and the brother is hogging it chances are a Playstation 4 coming to the house would be an outstanding once in a lifetime experience and the brother would want in on it...

As for my growing up... I grew up on a rough council estate with most of my friends having more than one kid, divorced parents, jailed parents... No Lambos whatsoever though, an Escort XR3i was about as good as it got and no-one was that poor that every house didn't have several TVs in.

Anyone that poor didn't have house at all and Playstation was the least of their concerns.

You do realize that not all TVs will hook up to rca cables either? My parents TV, for example, only has a connection that looks like this:

Spoiler

some only have this:

Spoiler: DVI

SOme only have this:

Spoiler: SVideo

Yes, people often only have one HDMI TV and have playstation 4's, they expect their kids to share, problem is there is often not enough playstation to go around when kids have friends over at the same time.

I know it is hard for you to imagine that someone else might actually want one of these but I am sure there are many who do. Simply because you do not see a need for it does not mean you should be offended at anyone who does. Honestly, I personally have no need for one of these currently but you are making the best case for buying one ever. I could make one of these if I really wanted to since I have the skills to do so, however, with as much as you have been offended at their mere existence, I think I should buy one from this guy just to spite you, then send the picture of it with hearts on it to all my friends to use as their avatar so you will see it wherever they post. It is silly to argue about whether someone might want a product you do not. When I was a teen, I would have LOVED to have one.

Okay so you went from clutching one straw to another to using truncated pictures in an attempt to prop up your failed argument to outright childishness. (By way the one with stereo inputs will have other component inputs and the one with S-Video obviously has a VGA input which means it will have other RCA inputs, finally the TV with a DVI input will almost certainly have a HDMI input. Both TVs with the VGA and DVI share the same hardware with the other analogue and digital inputs respectively, for the TV without any input at all you are talking about a TV over 30yrs old, seriously)

FYI I don't actually hate it and if you back and read what I posted several of your sharks ago I actually said I can understand people wanting one just because they want one and all I questioned was its actual practicality in the face of much better options. If you want one have fun with it, I bet after the initial "look how cool this is" it would sit there which again is something I know well as my house is full of "look how cool this is" but nonetheless you gave me a good chuckle with this juvenile display so props for that show of "gamer" behaviour (just more evidence on the pile really).