PS4 VS PC, wrong. PS4 = PC, Discuss

[MorganL4]

I'm not buying that analogy somehow...

Just because the power gap has been narrowed, doesn't mean the next gen of consoles will be anymore like PCs than the last gen.


Hell, the power gap is already widening, and the console isn't even out yet, and with no way of upgrading the thing, it'll only get worse.

Yeah, this basically..... I mean they announced 8 gig of DDR3 RAM..... Which is great by current standards. What about 3 years from now? Right now we are in 2013, DDR4 is expected to release in 2014...... So right out of the gate the RAM is going to be outdated, and it is the most modern aspect of the console (as best I can tell so far)

Im saving up to build a Gaming rig with a price tag of 2k.... it is gonna have a hex core 64 gig of DDR3 2TB HD and a solid state for my dual boot OS set up..... I will be making that bui

ld in about 3 months....

Its DDR5 not DDR3, while DDR5 is based on DDR3 DDR5 is only found in GPUs so its likely that the GPU is going to share memory with the system itself like the 360 does .

Plus adoption of DDR4 is likely to be slow at the start as it was with 3, not many people are likely to replace their entire motherboard just for better RAM timing. Its likely that it will replace DDR3 as people build new systems (or do a proc+mb upgrade) so its unlikely to go obsolete very quickly.

Yes you are correct there is a difference, but we must be clear; it is GDDR5 NOT DDR5. But in truth GDDR5 is modified DDR3.

"GDDR5 (Graphics Double Data Rate, version 5) SDRAM is a type of high performance DRAM graphics card memory designed for computer applications requiring high bandwidth. Like its predecessor, GDDR4, GDDR5 is based on DDR3 SDRAM memory which has double the data lines compared to DDR2 SDRAM, but GDDR5 also has 8-bit wide prefetch buffers similar to GDDR4." - wikipedia article

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDDR5

 

[Gergar12_v1legacy]

I am going to buy a ps4 no matter what. I do have a gaming PC, but they need upgrading allot. I also hope the PS4 does not turn into a PC. It should do what it does best. Play blue ray, and games, and leave it at that.

 

[captnb2thep]

I guess no one is going to touch on my PS3 "other OS" comment, but the assertion stands true that its parts werent upgradeable other than the Hard Drive which was user replaceable. The appeal of consoles though lies HEAVILY in convenience and user-friendliness.

 

[ripdajacker]

I am excited because the games will be easier to port. It may be a PC by definition, but since it won't run your off-the-shelf Windows or the newest Ubuntu, it's really not.

What's more exciting is the potential for homebrew. Remember that XBMC arose from the hacked Xbox 1. PS4 with XBMC, yummy.

 

[Doom972]

From the gaming perspective, the PS3 and 360 are also just limited PCs: The store game data on a hard drive, games caoe with serial numbers for online play, games come out buggy and require several patches, etc - all the disadvantages of a PC (except for the need to upgrade every four or five years), and without all of the advantages.

With that said, I wouldn't say that it's a PC unless I can divide the hardrive to partitions and install another OS. Since it supposedly has an x86 CPU, it means that it would actually be able to play PC games. If that's the case, I might even buy one.

 

[DrunkenMonkey]

I think it's really sad that this thread has devolved into yet ANOTHER console vs PC bullshitathon.

Really, it's pathetic, do you know what you gamers should be caring about?

The fucking games. Not the god damn hardware. I sat though the first hour or so of the presentationt hinking "yeah and thats great but show me a fucking game". Then they showed me Killzone: Shadow Fall and I fucking squeed when I saw those Helghast eyes because it looked fucking FUN.

Thank you, we need more people like you, consoles main point is to play freaking games, playing games on a pc is only a secondary function. The question is, if the games will be exclusive to consoles or there will be a mass exodus towards complete multi-platforming, which in that case the whole pc vs consoles argument holds weight.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

People were installing Windows on the Xbox 360 when it came out.

This topic is 7 years to late

Well that never happened, so no it is not to late.

Every gen we have this and it is nothing new. Consoles have always been watered down PCs and this no difference. The raw power of PC more than makes up for the "bloatware" running on PCs while consoles never reach the power of PCs. It is not beside the point of comparison with raw power if you are saying they are equal which they are not and never will be. A console is for a completely different type of person that wants to play on PC and no that is not a bad thing to have different standards.

No, it is new. Apart from the original xbox, no console has had x86 pc hardware or run x86 code.

And PCs have not always had x86-64 so yeah that is not a valid definition of being a computer.

 

[ph0b0s123]

People were installing Windows on the Xbox 360 when it came out.

This topic is 7 years to late

Well that never happened, so no it is not to late.

Every gen we have this and it is nothing new. Consoles have always been watered down PCs and this no difference. The raw power of PC more than makes up for the "bloatware" running on PCs while consoles never reach the power of PCs. It is not beside the point of comparison with raw power if you are saying they are equal which they are not and never will be. A console is for a completely different type of person that wants to play on PC and no that is not a bad thing to have different standards.

No, it is new. Apart from the original xbox, no console has had x86 pc hardware or run x86 code.

And PCs have not always had x86-64 so yeah that is not a valid definition of being a computer.

Yes, it is a good definition. x86 and it's extensions. Or is every time new instructions are added to x86 CPU's like MMX, SSE and x64, then they are no longer PC CPU's. Your definition makes no sense.

 

[ph0b0s123]

People were installing Windows on the Xbox 360 when it came out.

This topic is 7 years to late

Well that never happened, so no it is not to late.

Every gen we have this and it is nothing new. Consoles have always been watered down PCs and this no difference. The raw power of PC more than makes up for the "bloatware" running on PCs while consoles never reach the power of PCs. It is not beside the point of comparison with raw power if you are saying they are equal which they are not and never will be. A console is for a completely different type of person that wants to play on PC and no that is not a bad thing to have different standards.

No, it is new. Apart from the original xbox, no console has had x86 pc hardware or run x86 code.

And PCs have not always had x86-64 so yeah that is not a valid definition of being a computer.

Already said in previous and original post that the PC and consoles sharing all their hardware has only happened once with the original xbox. And that was because Microsoft, to get a console out quickly, had to start with what they knew. For Sony, who have year of experience building console hardware, to decide to make a PC for their next console. This is new.

Unless Microsoft throw a curve ball with the hardware spec of the xbox next, two out of the 3 consoles on the market will be PC's from a hardware point of view. So rather than consoles killing off the PC, they have been assimilated by the PC architecture.