'Psychic' suing magician for £150,000 for showing how it's done.

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SenseOfTumour

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Firstly, I'm shocked that the article was in the Daily Mail, a piece that's pro reason and against misguided belief? Also, seems that it's the Mail being sued, which should be amusing too. Very few people beat that army of lawyers, and as a psychic, she's coming to that fight with no ammo.

It's 'Psychic Sally' Morgan, rather angry with Paul Zenon for writing the article.

My initial worry was that, with the crappy British legal system of libel, Paul Zenon may have had to back down, as simply being right and in full possession of all the facts is no guarantee of winning a libel case, and £150,000 could wreck nearly anyone. Fortunately, she's after the paper, and I'm sure it's not because the paper would pay out more, oh no.

I can't see why she didn't just get in touch the day before and demand they don't print it, would have saved a lot of trouble.

Essentially he states that she wears an earpiece and is fed info from people who mingle in the audience and in the pre show foyer, picking up information, and that nowadays it's easier than ever to fake psychic abilities.

Got a list of credit card bookings? You now have addresses, hop on google earth, you can see their car, you can 'magically' tell them the colour of their front door or curtains. Get onto facebook and research some names, see what's been happening in their families, any interesting tragedies you could exploit? Suddenly you know family names, you've seen pictures of pets, you know recent news, what people look like etc.

Get into town a day or so early, cruise the local graveyards, making notes of fresh graves and ones with fresh flowers on. (yes it's a bit grim, but then leeching money from the recently bereaved was never going to be the most honourable profession.)

All in all, I can't see how she can have a legal case, unless she can PROVE that she's a legit psychic. In that respect, there's been a prize on offer for anyone who can prove any psychic ability, was a thousand bucks in 1964 and now it's a million, and not one person has managed a valid claim.

Just amazes me there's still any audience for these carnie show frauds, when we got rid of the rest of the freakshows.
 

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Nearly forgot to link, normally I'd hate to link to the Mail, but maybe if they see a spike in traffic to rational articles someone might notice.

Also, they tend to get stroppy when people copy their text instead of linking :) I guess that counts as piracy!

http://bit.ly/z0ZaVP
 

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GenericAmerican said:
She will lose the case due too, "unforeseen events."
If I remember rightly, and I imagine what you're referring to, the same reason she cancelled a tour :)
 

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I really hate that some psychics try to make fool out of people with their psychic readings. None of the psychic can give accurate readings to their clients. They can just try to give accurate reading.
 

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Not surprising at all, this has happened quite a few times in the past. Hell one magnificent man turned it into a living to debunk frauds and con-artist. They're making a documentary about him:

 

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So...either she's proven to be a fraud, or she's proven to be a real psycjic and burnt as a witch? Whatever.

Fucking hell, I hate this bullshit.
 

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You'd think she's would have seen this coming, being psychic and whatnot.
 

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Well that scam she runs is her trade, and if you reveal someones trade secrets and cost them money they can sue you, it is no different with any company.
Doesn't matter how much they steal, cheat, extort, lie and scam people, you are simply not legally allowed to give away their trade secrets.
Hell the guy is a magician he fucking knows the details of this, they have a whole guild that protects their trade secrets, try and out all their tricks and you will quickly find yourself looking at legal bills the length of your arm.

I'm not saying this is right, but it is how the fracked up legal systems do things.
 

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She doesn't have to prove that she's a Psychic, just that she'd make X dollars more before the article was published than she would now. Then the newspaper will have to pay X.

This case is a toss up, and depends on the formality of the jury.
 

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SenseOfTumour said:
Firstly, I'm shocked that the article was in the Daily Mail, a piece that's pro reason and against misguided belief?
AHAHAHA, good joke.

On topic, if somebody proves you're a fraud, you don't sue them, you go too jail and return the money you took from people.
 

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Well I hope that people are intelligent enough not to fall for a sob story about how being proven a fraud is somehow the paper's problem. There really isn't anything to say beyond that, so I'll show you a tangentially related cartoon. The really good part starts at about 3:50.
 

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The Madman said:
Not surprising at all, this has happened quite a few times in the past. Hell one magnificent man turned it into a living to debunk frauds and con-artist. They're making a documentary about him:

The sad thing is that there really shouldn't need to be anyone to debunk psychics.

And anyone who is willing to risk their own health an/or money for the help of some TV evangelist won't believe they're being deceived even if it's staring them in the face.