Q. Re: Deus Ex pacifist run (possible mild spoilers)

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kurupt87

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Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
 

DustyDrB

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DragonLord Seth said:
Only question:
Does turning a turret or a robot against it's former allies count as kills?
Yes.
Other things that count:
-If a Box Guard explodes and a human enemy is caught in the blast
-If you take down an enemy, and then he falls into an electrical current
-If you take down an enemy, and then he falls off of a high place
-If you give a certain character too much morphine
-If you punch through a wall and happen to hit an enemy
-If you steal someone's puppy, causing them great emotional distress to which they respond by eating a lethal amount of cupcakes.

One of those is a lie. But which one?
 

DustyDrB

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kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
 

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DustyDrB said:
-If you give a certain character too much morphine
To expand on this though, if a certain character asks for a lot of morphine for some purpose, this does not count against pacifist.

Basically anything you do that causes another person to die when they didn't want to will break the achievement. Its a little annoying you cant see any kind of counter for kills to make sure you didn't do it on accident (many people are reporting that the Tranq gun sometimes will kill people), so just stick to being a sneaky bastard and the stun gun.

And don't go out of your way to rescue anyone, and any Stealth gamer won't have too much trouble. Unless you're getting no-kills no-alarms at the same time, that's a bit of a *****. I hope you like quicksave/quickload.
 

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TheKasp said:
Up until now (Detroid riots) I have only killed the bosses and sadly the 2 bots in the hangar (had not the skill to hack them). I really don't know if this will hinder my pacifist run but I'll tell you when I finish the game. If this doesn't give me the pacifist it means that hacking robots up to this point is necessary.
Robots won't count against your pacifist run if you destroy them, but if an enemy gets caught in the explosion (as they often do) then it counts as a kill. I assume the robots you destroyed were in the Tai Yong Medical hangar, so you should be fine.

OT: My first playthrough was pacifist, except for the intro sequence, and I didn't get the achievement. It's possible that I may have accidentally killed someone due to an environmental hazard or exploding robot, but because it's possible to get through the tutorial without any kills, I suggest you do that in the future just to be sure.
 

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DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
I did it on pacifist run, I felt like a total boss afterwards. :D
 

DustyDrB

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xXxJessicaxXx said:
DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
I did it on pacifist run, I felt like a total boss afterwards. :D
I saw where you said that in another thread. Kudos. Took me for-ev-er. But you said you didn't check the bodies?
 

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TheKasp said:
Up until now (Detroid riots) I have only killed the bosses and sadly the 2 bots in the hangar (had not the skill to hack them). I really don't know if this will hinder my pacifist run but I'll tell you when I finish the game. If this doesn't give me the pacifist it means that hacking robots up to this point is necessary.
You're fine, bots don't count.
 

DustyDrB

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Woot! Beat the game tonight and got the Pacifist achievement (I think this is the first achievement I ever cared about. I just think it's awesome that a game made these days gives you such an option). I was getting paranoid about it.

Oh, and some tips for the very end of the game:
All those crazed people? If you don't want to use up energy cloaking past the larger mobs (there are a few places where you don't have enough cover to recharge a battery), then just sprint past them. The final part of the game has periodic barriers that they can't get over, and the mobs didn't do any damage to me when I just ran through them. This isn't always recommended, but I did it two or three times. I really hate using up batteries (it's why I don't do many takedowns).

Also, if the crazed people who come out during the final boss are killed, it won't count against you. I saw the death icon on one of the bodies (I think the electrical floor killed him), but I still earned the achievement.
 

kurupt87

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DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
xXxJessicaxXx said:
DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
I did it on pacifist run, I felt like a total boss afterwards. :D
Acknowledge these people, for they are both skilled and patient.

Seriously well done.

Although, I will moan at you. Now I know it's possible I am going to have to try myself. So, I've got several hours of frustration coming my way, thanks. >.<
 

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kurupt87 said:
Although, I will moan at you. Now I know it's possible I am going to have to try myself. So, I've got several hours of frustration coming my way, thanks. >.<
If I can do it on Give me Deus Ex you can hehe. Btw it's possible to save in combat so if you get a good start off you can save midway. That's what I did.
 

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kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
EMP the robot then you can just run around knocking everyone out. The robot is the only dangerous part to the person in trouble.
 

Ridgemo

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kurupt87 said:
DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
xXxJessicaxXx said:
DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
I did it on pacifist run, I felt like a total boss afterwards. :D
Acknowledge these people, for they are both skilled and patient.

Seriously well done.

Although, I will moan at you. Now I know it's possible I am going to have to try myself. So, I've got several hours of frustration coming my way, thanks. >.<
EMP the robot, that's the only danger to the person in trouble. Then you can just whizz about stunning/takedown the other dudes.

I did it on Hard mode, pacifist run.
 

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Ridgemo said:
kurupt87 said:
DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
xXxJessicaxXx said:
DustyDrB said:
kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
I did it. I only had to spend about two total hours and 40 tries.
I did it on pacifist run, I felt like a total boss afterwards. :D
Acknowledge these people, for they are both skilled and patient.

Seriously well done.

Although, I will moan at you. Now I know it's possible I am going to have to try myself. So, I've got several hours of frustration coming my way, thanks. >.<
EMP the robot, that's the only danger to the person in trouble. Then you can just whizz about stunning/takedown the other dudes.

I did it on Hard mode, pacifist run.
You jump quickly from the right of the crash area onto the area and take down / taze the 3 up there quickly, you then tranquilize or taze the heavy that's just below you, and the heavy that's a bit farther off (try to make sure he's not near the robot's expected drop area) and load an emp grenade for quick fire.

Drop down below the right ramp and move to the guards under (ignore snipers they do minimal damage) then the bot drops, emp it hoping things are far enough away and take out the guys on the left side's tower, then get the last sniper and check bodies.
 

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I managed the task being discussed on default difficulty (though a guy on the roof wound up dead for some glitchy reason). Just out of curiosity in what ways would it be more difficult on a hard playthrough? Would the timing be even tigher? If so, yikes!
 

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kurupt87 said:
Has anyone managed to
save Malik on a hard mode pacifist run?

That's probably the hardest thing to do ingame, off the top of my head anyway. Would it even be possible?
Yeah I did, had 5 Energy cells charged, just knocked out everyone very quickly, combining it with stungun shots, oh and an emp mine for the robot. It's doable.