Quantic Dream and Cage face accusations from some employees of fostering hostile environment

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CaitSeith said:
Your allegations are pretty flimsy, so let's agree to disagree.
I'm not really "alleging" anything except that it would be wise to have more evidence before turning this into one more social media firestorm. And that publicity, sentiment, and reaction vastly outpace consideration, corroboration and measured response in the current milieu. The former is certainly just my opinion, the latter... Not so much.
 

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Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Elvis Starburst said:
"You want to talk about homophobia? I work with Ellen Page, who fights for LGBT rights," Cage told Le Monde. "You want to talk about racism? I work with Jesse Williams, who fights for civil rights in the United States. Judge my work." he says. Pffbt. Your co-worker's beliefs don't mean shit for your own. I have a good feeling he conjured that up to deflect the concerns towards him and nothing more
Its the argument equivalent to "I can't be racist, I've got black friends and they like me."
Furthermore, Page coming out and Williams getting involved in civil rights only came AFTER they worked with Cage. God, he's a freaking dumbass on top of being a shithead. Furthermore, if we're gonna judge him by his work, then none of this should come as a surprise and just reinforces the accusations.

Seriously, is anyone ACTUALLY surprised by this? The writing has been on the wall for awhile regarding Cage. He's always been inept and tone deaf at best and offensive and creepy at worst what with the gratuitous shower scenes, bizarre sexual encounters, and creating a nude model of Ellen Page without her consent. All that "responsibility" nonsense he espoused years ago was BS anyway, but now it's become REALLY disingenuous. He's yet another boil that needs to be lanced from the games industry
 

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Callate said:
CaitSeith said:
Your allegations are pretty flimsy, so let's agree to disagree.
I'm not really "alleging" anything except that it would be wise to have more evidence before turning this into one more social media firestorm. And that publicity, sentiment, and reaction vastly outpace consideration, corroboration and measured response in the current milieu. The former is certainly just my opinion, the latter... Not so much.
When you hear hoofbeats, don't think zebras.
 

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Commanderfantasy said:
I'm sure that's a part of it too. My opinion more points at hollywood than anything else. Because even though I am not gay, if someone promise me a lead role in a major film franchise that would make me 100's of millions of dollars, I'd probably let them put it in my ass too.
No offense, but that predisposition speaks way more about you than about them. No judging though. Good luck with that, I guess...?
 

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gigastar said:
Meh. Wake me up when the allegations of Cage putting his dick on an interns shoulder roll out.
I'm really tired and read that as "allegations of rolling his dick on an interns shoulder".
 

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CaitSeith said:
When you hear hoofbeats, don't think zebras.
Really? This is the level we're working on, now? Cute maxims?

Then how about "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail?"

Suggesting waiting on more information, preferably from those without a pronounced motive for casting a former employer in a negative light, is not unreasonable. In fact, it is not less reasonable because there's presently an atmosphere in which accusers who come forward are more likely to be given credence- quite the opposite.

Nor does wanting fair judgment inherently favor the guilty.

No aphorism suddenly transforms a rush to judgment into common sense.
 

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Sorry, not buying any accusations these days without evidence.
Too many people lying in order to get sympathy and exposure, too many people forming lynch mobs based on nothing but "he said, she said" nonsense.
You can tell from the games Cage makes that he's a bit of a pervert but unless he's done something illegal and someone has proof of it, I don't care.
 

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"Judge me by my work." Ok. You put a creepy nude model of the woman you're using a defense of in your game and she was pissed at you.

I'm judging you! I'M FUCKING JUDGING YOU! AND I FIND YOU WANTING!
 

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Callate said:
CaitSeith said:
When you hear hoofbeats, don't think zebras.
Really? This is the level we're working on, now? Cute maxims?

Then how about "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail?"

Suggesting waiting on more information, preferably from those without a pronounced motive for casting a former employer in a negative light, is not unreasonable. In fact, it is not less reasonable because there's presently an atmosphere in which accusers who come forward are more likely to be given credence- quite the opposite.

Nor does wanting fair judgment inherently favor the guilty.

No aphorism suddenly transforms a rush to judgment into common sense.
Dude, you're playing Catch-22. A victim of such acts has already a pretty clear motive to cast a former employer in a negative light. Considering how frequent those acts are treated as open-secrets when they happen (it's called the Missing Stairs), it's unreasonable to treat the victims as in trial for perjury when they finally speak out.