Seems like a majority missed the point of this so let me try again in a simplified version: If a person is overweight and would be much happier if they were fit why can't they summon the willpower to lose weight. I know people who hate how they look and wish they were a healthy weight, so I don't understand why they can't just sack up and do something about it if that would make them so much happier. And please don't mention medical reasons for being overweight yes that happens but rarely and it's irrelevant anyways.
Question about being overweight
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Some people are just genetically fat and it's either extremely difficult or nigh impossible for them to lose weight.
Your friend's friend might be one of those people.
Or she could really be happy the way she is. Unless she's goin' round bitching about how fat she is and still doesn't do anything about it, why is it such a big deal?
Your friend's friend might be one of those people.
Or she could really be happy the way she is. Unless she's goin' round bitching about how fat she is and still doesn't do anything about it, why is it such a big deal?
Pretty much this. There are people who are genetically predisposed to obesity, but they make up a tremendously miniscule percentage of obese people.Rasputin1 said:
Well, I was fat, hated the constant insults, and worked my way to become physically fit. Many people feel that there's "nothing they can do about it" so they feel "trapped". I realize that the majority CAN lose the weight but many of those feel that they can't. Personally, I think that being physically fit is like most good things in life, requires a lot of work which many people simply refuse to do. I mean, it is difficult to change your way of life...it's like fighting an addiction. You have to give up the drug (fatty food and being sedentary) and work (excercise). If you want to help her, don't be direct about it or it will make you the "bad guy". Start working out with your gf and invite others to join in, including her friend. Just don't single her out with it because then you're the "bad guy".
OT: In about 7 minutes, I will find out if a person who "wants to enlist" will actually come back for Day 2 of preparation. If so, he will be the first civilian to make it to Day 2 of the training (about 5 people have started this training before but, on average, they've only lasted about 30 minutes.)
OT: In about 7 minutes, I will find out if a person who "wants to enlist" will actually come back for Day 2 of preparation. If so, he will be the first civilian to make it to Day 2 of the training (about 5 people have started this training before but, on average, they've only lasted about 30 minutes.)
Leave her alone, she's not your family and they're the only people who get to discuss your weight with you. If she brings it up first offer to support her, but by all means do not bring it up first unless you are her doctor or her family. Seriously, it's not your business.
Trust me, I'm an internet stranger.
Trust me, I'm an internet stranger.
Well, I cant lose weight. I have proven this rather well to almost everyone. The most I can do is build up muscle under my fat, but for some goddamn reason the fat stays. I am chronically 25ish pounds overweight, and I know for a fact that I have more than average muscle mass. 200+ pounds in a deadlift is easy to me.
Now me? I am actually content. I keep warm, I can keep my girlfriend warm. I like the weight when I lay flat, it's almost reassuring on me, in a weird way. I am happy, so is my girlfriend, and that's all that really matters. Am I healthy? Why, yes, because muscle sheathes my organs. A good comparison to make (but keeping in mind that I have MUCH less fat), is that a sumo wrestler is actually surprisingly fit, more so than a skinny teen because of the muscles they build) which protect the heart, lungs, and all other organs that are adversely affected by fat.
And yeah, you heard me, you can be skinny as a stick and I can be healthier than you, because if you don't work out your muscles normally and eat junk, the fat is still there. its just encasing your organs and making your life shorter than mine.
EDIT: After reading again I strayed off topic a lot. But yes, you can be both fat and happy, and what most people don't think of is that you can be both of those and healthy. So there's no reason for her to lose weight either way, unless she wants to.
Now me? I am actually content. I keep warm, I can keep my girlfriend warm. I like the weight when I lay flat, it's almost reassuring on me, in a weird way. I am happy, so is my girlfriend, and that's all that really matters. Am I healthy? Why, yes, because muscle sheathes my organs. A good comparison to make (but keeping in mind that I have MUCH less fat), is that a sumo wrestler is actually surprisingly fit, more so than a skinny teen because of the muscles they build) which protect the heart, lungs, and all other organs that are adversely affected by fat.
And yeah, you heard me, you can be skinny as a stick and I can be healthier than you, because if you don't work out your muscles normally and eat junk, the fat is still there. its just encasing your organs and making your life shorter than mine.
EDIT: After reading again I strayed off topic a lot. But yes, you can be both fat and happy, and what most people don't think of is that you can be both of those and healthy. So there's no reason for her to lose weight either way, unless she wants to.
When I was in the third grade I gained 143 pounds, and taking the advice of my mother wasn't allowed to go on a diet (she's retarded and wanted to make sure I was tall even though by 8th grade I was 6'0") and ya I hated it. Though as soon as I got outa that hellhole I didn't eat for a week and a half. Lost all the extra weight and I'm soooooooo much happier.
Hmmm hm... ANYWAY I guess too many fat people just like eating too much, are lazy, like soda too much, or are genetically predetermined to be fat.
Hmmm hm... ANYWAY I guess too many fat people just like eating too much, are lazy, like soda too much, or are genetically predetermined to be fat.
I have it on good authority that once somebody gets past a certain wait it becomes extremely difficult to start losing any weight at all, and even more difficult to keep your weight down even if you manage to lose any.
Well some people are just lazy some people have a disablity or genetic problem or even just genetically overwieght. All of those reason are none of your concern inless they ask you for help. Or they start getting dangerously obese then he should step in.
Well, it really and truly is a difficult issue you're addressing. Weight is almost universally at the core of how people view their own attractiveness. For some people losing weight is a genuinely difficult task, it's easy for people like me and you (I'm assuming) to talk about staying fit, because we already are fit. But for people who aren't, it's really difficult.
One of the basic conventions of our society is that when people have a flaw, even if it is clearly visible, we don't point it out to them. It's not polite to tell stupid people that they're stupid, ugly people that they're ugly, or fat people that they're fat. So it's understandable that your girlfriend doesn't want to be impolite to her friend by suggesting she take up a weight loss program. Because losing weight can be so difficult it's a seriously personal issue for some people. Very very (very) close friends can openly talk with each other about the other's flaws, but if your girlfriend isn't that close of friends with this girl, then trying to talk her into losing weight is only going to embarass this girl, causing her to get angry with your girlfriend, and upsetting the balance of their group of friends. If worst comes to worst the ultimate result (instead of this girl losing weight) could be that this girl feels so embarassed about having been approached that she stops hanging out with the friends who approached her, ultimately losing social ties, and possibly (as many people do) eating more do deal with the emotional trauma. So yes, approaching this girl could help her, but it could also make things a lot worse. As a general rule, when it comes to something as personal as weight, it's best not to approach someone about making changes, and just hope they decide to work on it for themselves (and if they do, and are open about it, then you can offer to help them).
One of the basic conventions of our society is that when people have a flaw, even if it is clearly visible, we don't point it out to them. It's not polite to tell stupid people that they're stupid, ugly people that they're ugly, or fat people that they're fat. So it's understandable that your girlfriend doesn't want to be impolite to her friend by suggesting she take up a weight loss program. Because losing weight can be so difficult it's a seriously personal issue for some people. Very very (very) close friends can openly talk with each other about the other's flaws, but if your girlfriend isn't that close of friends with this girl, then trying to talk her into losing weight is only going to embarass this girl, causing her to get angry with your girlfriend, and upsetting the balance of their group of friends. If worst comes to worst the ultimate result (instead of this girl losing weight) could be that this girl feels so embarassed about having been approached that she stops hanging out with the friends who approached her, ultimately losing social ties, and possibly (as many people do) eating more do deal with the emotional trauma. So yes, approaching this girl could help her, but it could also make things a lot worse. As a general rule, when it comes to something as personal as weight, it's best not to approach someone about making changes, and just hope they decide to work on it for themselves (and if they do, and are open about it, then you can offer to help them).
There are drastic medical procedures for people with drastic weight problems, ranging from stomach stapling, lap band, and coming to a country near you - implants. It's already approved for use in some places, but they pretty much place a tube down your throat with an empty implant, then fill 'er up.Omikron009 said:
It's okay to openly talk about people being skinny. Why the double standard?Kpt._Rob said:
If you're overweight, your overweight.
I've always been skinny. I've ALWAYS hated it, because I have some people younger then me with 6-packs while people just LOVED pointing out how visible my ribs were. But I'm generally in a contempt mood, and while some people can't accept the fact that I'm not the best, beefiest quarter back that ever happened to the school, you have to accept who you are.
If you accept who you are, people will do the same.
I've always been skinny. I've ALWAYS hated it, because I have some people younger then me with 6-packs while people just LOVED pointing out how visible my ribs were. But I'm generally in a contempt mood, and while some people can't accept the fact that I'm not the best, beefiest quarter back that ever happened to the school, you have to accept who you are.
If you accept who you are, people will do the same.
Because some people don't care. I was over weight for years and years, and I was happy and I didn't care what other people thought. I liked the way I looked, I was fine with it and really some people just are. I am not any more because of a genetic medical condition I found out about, which was the only reason why I went about changing it.Limzz said:
But really, if she is large, who cares, if she is fine with it then let her be. She may not be 100% happy about it, but obviously isn't upset enough by it to want to change.
Some people are not educated enough about food to be able to lose weight! they think weight loss is about eating lettuce and all you do in your spare time is exercise. The go on diets for a few months, then are back to their old habits. They don't understand to really become a healthy weight it is about permanent life changes, that is why these diets of "lets cut out carbs, no more junk food" etc will never ever ever work.
What I dislike are people always bitching about how they look, while stuffing their faces full of junk food. *tears tears* "I hate the way I look" *tears, shoves 3rd big mac into their mouth, tears*
Well medically the standards for being overweight are a bit on the nazi side. You yourself may actually be considered overweight.
Me personally, I'm medically considered overweight, even though I have only a minor gut. I guess you just have to be happy with yourself. Maybe she really is content with the way she is.
Me personally, I'm medically considered overweight, even though I have only a minor gut. I guess you just have to be happy with yourself. Maybe she really is content with the way she is.
People don't like to suffer, and the road to proper weightloss is nothing but agony. But worth it if you stick to it.
Adversely one could just cram their face with dietary pills, never mind the horrible horrible things they do to you.
Adversely one could just cram their face with dietary pills, never mind the horrible horrible things they do to you.