Question about Twilight.

[Agayek]

And Twilight vampires are basically the worst vampires ever. Simply put, vampires are predators. They eat humans, among other things. You do not fall in love with your food, I don't care who you are.

I don't know, I do love burgers...like way too much...

At least it's not a pie.

 

[Bob Saget]

Think about it this way. Edward was designed to be perfect, and if he's dead from the sun, he can't be perfect. So I guess the author decided to make a substitute that makes him look like more of a pansy than he already is.

 

[ryai458]

In the original vampire story, Brahm Stoker's Dracula, daylight turned Dracula into a 'low-powered vampire'. Basically, he couldn't acccess most of his abilities. The concept of vamires bursting into flame and such came with the advent of cinema, as it was found to be more exciting. Sparkles were never my greatest concern anyway. I was more concerned when, upon investigating the 'romance', I found many signs of an abusive relationship in the making. Watching her while she sleeps, following her around, other stuff I can't recall, but isn't normal or healthy. All of my information is second hand, as I couldn't be arsed to read the novel, so I may be wrong.

a sparkly vampire that stalks? Im going to suck your ohh wait cant say that on the internet
its just a little disturbing dont mix something awesome like vampires and werewolves with romance whats next a hairless werewolf that shits flowers and pisses skittles?

 

[gdnvs]

The vampire didn't glow, it sparkled. Not THE most masculine thing for a vampire to do, of course.
The big issue we all had was that in vampire history, so to speak, sunlight was fatal. Dracula was reduced to ashes when exposed to sunlight. Other vampires died in similar ways from the same cause.

Not true, in the novel by Bram Stoker Dracula is described as losing his powers during the day. He is killed because he gets decapitated and stabbed through the hart at the same time.
Guess I got sorta ninja'd by the way.

 

[Skeleon]

The author explains in one of the books that vampires supposedly have 25 genes as opposed to 23 (I believe those are the right numbers), which is the supposed reason for all the vampire freakiness.

I guess you mean chromosomes.
Anyway, I find this to be stupid already.
Why do people always assume "more DNA/chromosomes/genes = more advanced uber-creature"? The freaking potato has more chromosomes than we do and we don't see it sending anybody to the moon, do we?

 

[not_tragedi]

And Twilight vampires are basically the worst vampires ever. Simply put, vampires are predators. They eat humans, among other things. You do not fall in love with your food, I don't care who you are.

I don't know, I do love burgers...like way too much...

At least it's not a pie.

I'm in love with Twinkies but again, like Agayek said, vampires who SPARKLE in sunlight, moan about being immortal (do I hear Anne Rice at the door?) and fall in love with their intended food. I say intended as the "vegetarians" feast on animal om noms instead of humans.

 

[Thyunda]

The vampire didn't glow, it sparkled. Not THE most masculine thing for a vampire to do, of course.
The big issue we all had was that in vampire history, so to speak, sunlight was fatal. Dracula was reduced to ashes when exposed to sunlight. Other vampires died in similar ways from the same cause.

Not true, in the novel by Bram Stoker Dracula is described as losing his powers during the day. He is killed because he gets decapitated and stabbed through the hart at the same time.

Aww. You got me. I was more going off the 1958 Hammer film. I know, It was wrong of me to do so. But I've not had much experience with vampires.

 

[Agayek]

I guess you mean chromosomes.
Anyway, I find this to be stupid already.
Why do people always assume "more DNA/chromosomes/genes = more advanced uber-creature"? The freaking potato has more chromosomes than we do and we don't see it sending anybody to the moon, do we?

Hey, there is documented evidence that both Dolphins and Mice are more advanced than we. Not sure if they have more chromosomes though.

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

Twilight as a series completely shits all over vampire mythos in general. Rather than "I can't go out in the sun because I'll FUCKING BURN AND DIE", we have "I can't go out in the sun because I'll SPARKLE LIEK A DIAMOND HURRRR x3". Also, the main vampires don't frigging suck any blood from humans, which to me is the coolest thing about vampires.

Question - since when did writers have to stick to fantasy archetypes? No-one complains that D+D elves aren't the same as Tolkien's elves. Or that Rowlings dragons aren't the same as those from the chinese mythology.

Maybe I'm still just new at internet speaking, but why oh why is this all so despised?

Well imagine a new series came along and they realized that those elves are very wery scawy! So to please their pussified audience they had to completely alter a part of the concept. So goodbye elf ears, and everything that made them elf (almost). Also considering the fact that girls drooled over that, it sickens me even more.

 

[dark_redeemer]

i read twilight. didnt care for it. only read past page 1oo becasue the girl i was seeing insisted it was the best book ever.

 

[RavingPenguin]

The author explains in one of the books that vampires supposedly have 25 genes as opposed to 23 (I believe those are the right numbers), which is the supposed reason for all the vampire freakiness.

I guess you mean chromosomes.
Anyway, I find this to be stupid already.
Why do people always assume "more DNA/chromosomes/genes = more advanced uber-creature"? The freaking potato has more chromosomes than we do and we don't see it sending anybody to the moon, do we?

Chromosome, gene, whatever. You got the point, and yes, it doesnt make sense. Why must this book exist its misleading our children in the ways of science. Damn you Twilight! *shakes fist angrily*

 

[Berithil]

*yawn* another Twilight bashing thread. I have never read the books but from what i've heard the books are better than the movie. But what's so bad about twilight? Yes it's cheesy and a chick flick, but there are many chick flicks out there. the only thing that bugs me is the sparkling thing. it goes against all vampire lore. that and the countless tween fan gilrs who say Twilight is the greatest movie ever *twitch*. But the movie caused that, not the book

 

[LeonLethality]

A website with twilight facts says these i will confirm them to any mythology of previous vampires

Spoiler

1. Vampires do not have fangs. WRONG COULDNT BE MORE WRONG I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS

2. Vampires have pale skin. Duh so it got something right

3. Vampires are more beautiful than humans. Depends what you looked like when becoming a vampire as your appearance hardly changes when becoming one so if you were a butt-ugly person well, yeah yer f**ked

4. Vampire skin, when in sunlight, sparkles and throws rainbows, like diamonds. WRONG OH SO WRONG I just explained this >.>

5. Vampire skin is hard like a diamond; they cannot be shot, stabbed or "staked." WRONG AGAIN tell van hellsing that >.> though vampired regenerate wounds exceptionaly fast (unless a certain catalyst was added to the weapon) they are not invincible yet another screw up

6. Vampires are superhuman in their speed, strength, ability, coordination, and all five senses. Only true for strength a vampire has 4x the strength of a human with the same size speed is not ture (well strength can affect speed so maybe) there sight is better but all else is generaly the same

7. Vampires can only be destroyed by being torn into pieces and burnt into ashes ? things that can only be done by a vampire or werewolf. wrong... oh so very wrong twilight a vampire can be killed by driving a pure iron steak through the coffin or anything tht can pierce the heart soaked in holy water like a silver bullet also an aspen, ash or white thorn stake through his heart with a single blow will kill it, in some cases of mythology garlic, there are many ways

8. Vampires only need to feed twice a month to keep their thirst under control. WRONG they need to feed like a human would, so about 2-3 times per night/day

9. Vampire eyes change based on how much blood they have consumed recently. Black: thirsty. Red: well-fed on human blood. Gold: well-fed on animal blood. As the time since last consumption lengthens, the color fades back to black. wrong there eyes are always red/yellow/green depending on the mythology

10. Vampires have circles under their eyes that get darker as they get thirstier. When they are well fed, the circles almost vanish. again wrong there were no previous signs of this in any mythology

11. Vampires are not vulnerable to traditional methods of killing them such as garlic, crosses, holy water, stakes, etc. just explained... andyes they are crosses are not always effective for killing some wont be affected at all

12. Some vampires have supernatural abilities; Edward reads minds, Alice sees the future, and Jasper controls emotional climates. WRONG-ISH the only supernatural abilities have been transformation mind controll and flight (among a few others) but seeing the future or reading minds etc. is just silly

13. Vampires dress in light colors to deemphasize their pallor. WRONG... WHA? okay that is just stupid vampires dress in whatever the hell they want...

14. Vampires do not eat human food ? if they do, it must be vomited later. not true it just doesnt provide nutrition >.>

yeah there wall of text explaining why these twilight tidbits are nonesense hope this helped dispel a bit of twilight >.>

 

[Agayek]

*yawn* another Twilight bashing thread. I have never read the books but from what i've heard the books are better than the movie. But what's so bad about twilight? Yes it's cheesy and a chick flick, but there are many chick flicks out there. the only thing that bugs me is the sparkling thing. it goes against all vampire lore. that and the countless tween fan gilrs who say Twilight is the greatest movie ever *twitch*. But the movie caused that, not the book

I'm inundated with screechs about how it's the greatest thing ever whenever I go home.

Sadly enough, of all 4 women that scream about it, only one of them is under the age of 40.

 

[Skeleon]

Hey, there is documented evidence that both Dolphins and Mice are more advanced than we. Not sure if they have more chromosomes though.

Hitchhiker to the Galaxy doesn't count as a scientific paper, though. ^^

Why must this book exist its misleading our children in the ways of science. Damn you Twilight! *shakes fist angrily

Nah, it's just that I keep hearing this bullshit all the time, the Doom-Movie did this, too, as did... well, I can't really think of anything but...
Well, if you're working in this kind of field it can really bother you.

 

[PersianLlama]

Here's another question - why are so many people outright offended by this damn IP?

It's an offense to good literature.

 

[Berithil]

*yawn* another Twilight bashing thread. I have never read the books but from what i've heard the books are better than the movie. But what's so bad about twilight? Yes it's cheesy and a chick flick, but there are many chick flicks out there. the only thing that bugs me is the sparkling thing. it goes against all vampire lore. that and the countless tween fan gilrs who say Twilight is the greatest movie ever *twitch*. But the movie caused that, not the book

I'm inundated with screechs about how it's the greatest thing ever whenever I go home.

Sadly enough, of all 4 women that scream about it, only one of them is under the age of 40.

Ok. Thats...just...creppy