Mainly because there elves dont stray so far of what they are, twilight loses all of what vampires are...Tullio said:
Question about Twilight.
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Well it wouldn't annoy me, because it's fantasy. People reinterpret fantasy concepts all the time. I don't have to like them. In fact if I don't like them I don't come in contact with them. This is why I don't play Battle for Middle Earth 2, Lord of the Rings Online, or pretty much any game based upon those books - because I don't like the altered concept. It's mere existence doesn't sicken me. If you feel that way, fine, I certainly won't agrue with you over it
Wrong. Heavy metal playing vampires appear in the series by Anne Rice, specifically the character Lestat in the book Queen of the Damned. I don't recommend reading anything other than the original Interview with the Vampire though, as the rest are pretty trite literary offerings.Jannycats said:
Depends on the source. In Bram Stokers Version, even sunlight wasn't fatal. It just made him weak, and made the count dress up pretty heavily.Thyunda said:
Other people use different rules.
By wrong I meant, "Wrong, you don't want to see this happen. It already did and it was bad."vultureX21 said:
Ok. Thats...just...creppy[/quote]Berithil said:
What's worse is that the main female human (for a while) character, Bella Swan, is a blatant self-insert of Stephanie Meyer.
So, basically, when you read Twilight, you are reading a wet dream of hers. Not exactly an enthralling read.
Don't people with less/extra chromosones than normal get down syndrome or something?Skeleon said:
But a thing that bugged me was if the vampire's in her novel don't have normal bodily fucntions how the FUCK could he get her pregnant?
Thank you for helping me point out the differences between twilight, and regular vampires. You might want to put your retorts to the Twilight fanpage in bold, because it reads like they typed it.LeonHellsvite said:
Any who, on the subject of Twilight. This argument is getting old, and the book wasn't written for ultra geeks like us who brush up on vampire mythology along with breakfast. This book was written for teenage girls, and consequently it helped raise the bar for future boyfriends.
Don't get me wrong I hate it how the vampires were turned into sissies in Twilight, I'm just saying let the topic die and pass through the rectum of our memories.
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I prefer my Castlevanian vampires.
I mean seriously, it sounds like the writer just crossed out all the bad stuff about vampires for plot convenience and kept (or even enhanced) everything else. If you want to make a book with vampires, go with what's generally accepted for that part of fiction, or make up a new species. You can't just cross out their vulnerability to holy water, the cross, stakes through the heart, garlic, etc. You just' can't. It's like a twelve year old is trying to write a book. And don't add shit like circles under the eyes, eye colour changing, OMG THEYRE MORE BEAUTIFAL THAN HUMONS :O, all this just kills the goddamned mythology.
Twilight would be so much more awesome if it involved huge-ass ever-changing castles, them being able to transform into wolves/bats/fog, and dudes with whips trying to stop them.
I mean seriously, it sounds like the writer just crossed out all the bad stuff about vampires for plot convenience and kept (or even enhanced) everything else. If you want to make a book with vampires, go with what's generally accepted for that part of fiction, or make up a new species. You can't just cross out their vulnerability to holy water, the cross, stakes through the heart, garlic, etc. You just' can't. It's like a twelve year old is trying to write a book. And don't add shit like circles under the eyes, eye colour changing, OMG THEYRE MORE BEAUTIFAL THAN HUMONS :O, all this just kills the goddamned mythology.
Twilight would be so much more awesome if it involved huge-ass ever-changing castles, them being able to transform into wolves/bats/fog, and dudes with whips trying to stop them.
Quite right.Disaster Button said:
There are a variety of chromosomal disorders, some because they lack chromosomes, some because they have too many. Down syndrome, for example, is called trisomy 21 because they have the 21st chromose thrice instead of twice.
Humans are supposed to have 46 chromoses in all (2 per number), having more or less doesn't make you super-powered (though it may make you special).
Anyway, I follow the idea that vampirism is a disease spread through bites. We have to eradicate them all, not glorify them. Burn! Burn, vampire!
Reading that paragraph about Twilight's vampires (Thanks, LeonHellsvite), really makes me wonder. How can you turn vampires into something so utterly overpowered and still find them cool?
They just sound boring and uninspired.
"Hehe, I'll just run a stake through Edward's heart."
"Nuh-uh, you can't, 'cause he's super-tough and doesn't die like that."
"But he's a vampire, staking him should..."
"No, Edward is too strong and you would be dead long before you could even try it anywaaay."
"But..."
It's like she is so far-out she (the author) makes up the perfect, emotional, strong, beautiful etc. lover for herself. Freaking weird.
I so agree!Mazty said:
I read the book once through, right when all my friends were obsessing about it, and some of the writing just made me cringe... In my opinion the whole book seems written like an overlong, overimaginative daydream by the author.
Everything about vampires has been changed just to make Edward seem completely perfect, which is completely ridiculous. Stephenie Meyer could have called them all something different like "Zombie discoballs" (since they never die and they sparkle) and most people wouldn't even have complained about the connection with vampires.
Having realised how much this post is bashing Stephenie Meyer, I should just point out that I think she is a very talented author in that she manages to draw and hold the attention of so many teenage girls, even those who don't read that much. Although her writing tends to repeat itself alot, she has managed to make people sympathise very heavily with the protagonist somehow, and I suppose that is admirable.
I'm inclined to agree, if you want to start bitching about the lore getting fucked up, the problem started way before Twilight, a certain line from another book comes to mind in which a vampire named Louis says all the stuff about killing vampires with stakes and crucifixes and bat-form and such is (exact quote) "Bull.Shit."Tullio said:
In my opinion lore is franchise based anyway, that's why it's perfectly fine for Blizzard Orcs to be freaking ALIENS and Tolkein Orcs to have something to do with fallen elves. It's kind of understandable for fanboys to get pissed off when some comic book movie screws up the story, because that's the same universe. But to start random flame wars over differences between Twilight and Dracula or Buffy, that's just pathetic.
Oh, and for the record, I read the entire Twilight series. It wasn't as great as the fangirls proclaiming "zomg i are marrying edward lol!" from the rooftops would have you believe, but it's not horrible either. It's actually slightly above average. If the fangirls just wouldn't be so damn vocal about it, it probably wouldn't have such a negative view in most people's eyes.
I notice that other franchises have similar problems, therefore I propose a solution to help people be more open-minded: We round up all the extremist fanboys and fangirls of all the happy little manga and anime and book and tv and movie franchises out there, and have them each shot in the head.
Oh and BTW, I am officially no longer a lurker.