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Sn1P3r M98

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Hey everyone, I'm going to be building a PC within the next couple of weeks, and wanted to see what you guys and girls thought of this build. I think I've got it nailed down, but I want to make sure it'll be a quality PC before I buy it. I'll be using this PC mostly for gaming.

Here's the parts:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197

Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth P67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131702

GPU: GeForce 480 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127532

CPU: i7 2600k (I've been going between this and the i5, I've heard that many games don't make use of Hyperthreading, so which do you recommend?) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

Power Supply: Rosewill 1000W (I know this is overkill for now, but I'm planning on purchasing another GTX 480 in a couple years to run in SLI) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182188

HDD: Seagate Barracuda (Already have one of these, it works great. Just want another for extra storage) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697

RAM: 12GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 (I might not need all 12GB, but RAM is cheap as hell anyway) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233146

Along with 2 DVD/CD Drives, and Windows 7 OEM.

I'd really appreciate it if you guys would tell me how this looks.
 

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I bought my i7 2600k since I wanted to "future proof" it. So if you are building on a budget I would go with i5 otherwise I would stay with the i7 2600k

I also bought Sabertooth p67 and I do not know if they have fixed it in the new Rev, but my mine had a cool boot bug (started the computer, it reseted itself after a few secs and then started again) and its fixed by updating uefi

You shouldnt use 3x ram

With socket 1155 you should either use 2 sticks or 4 sticks

I've got 2x 480 and I would really recommend that you buy 570 instead since its so damn loud..

when I use 100% on both gpus they hover around 90'c with 75-80% fanspeed (100% = 5000rpm.)

if you already got 1x of the exact same hdd I would suggest that you buy that one and use raid them (unless you have important stuff on them)
 

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Matthew94 said:
Tubez said:
I bought my i7 2600k since I wanted to "future proof" it. So if you are building on a budget I would go with i5 otherwise I would stay with the i7 2600k
The difference in "futureproofing" between the 2500K and the 2600K is minimal, it foolish to call the i5 a budget CPU and the i7 for futureproofing.
Perhaps you didnt notice the "" Since its pretty much impossible to futureproof with computers.

But I bought it since I will be using watercooling soon so then I except to be able to oc it to around 4.8-4.9 (already got it to 4.5ghz with fake watercooling)

So Im expecting it to last for quite some time and I also except games to support up to 8 cores in the future and therefor I bought it for the HT


i5 2500k is budget compared to i7 2600k (atleast in my country) since i5 cost around 1500kr and i7 cost around 2500kr (170euro versus 283 euro). And therefor its cheaper to buy i5 and therefor its BUDGET. (Budget doesnt mean bad).
 

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go with the i5 2500k. Games really don't make use of hyperthreading.

And btw, in a couple years, nvidia will probably move on to a gtx 600 series, in which that would be what you'd want.
 

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Tubez said:
I bought my i7 2600k since I wanted to "future proof" it. So if you are building on a budget I would go with i5 otherwise I would stay with the i7 2600k

I also bought Sabertooth p67 and I do not know if they have fixed it in the new Rev, but my mine had a cool boot bug (started the computer, it reseted itself after a few secs and then started again) and its fixed by updating uefi

You shouldnt use 3x ram

With socket 1155 you should either use 2 sticks or 4 sticks

I've got 2x 480 and I would really recommend that you buy 570 instead since its so damn loud..

when I use 100% on both gpus they hover around 90'c with 75-80% fanspeed (100% = 5000rpm.)

if you already got 1x of the exact same hdd I would suggest that you buy that one and use raid them (unless you have important stuff on them)
To be honest, I'm not terribly worried about noise. Anything is better than my current computer, it sounds like a jet taking off.

Though 90 degrees is a little hot... I wonder if MSI's Twin Frozr 480 design is better at cooling than your 480. I'd go for the 570 right away, I'm just a little concerned about it having less memory than the 480.
 

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Tubez said:
Matthew94 said:
Tubez said:
I bought my i7 2600k since I wanted to "future proof" it. So if you are building on a budget I would go with i5 otherwise I would stay with the i7 2600k
The difference in "futureproofing" between the 2500K and the 2600K is minimal, it foolish to call the i5 a budget CPU and the i7 for futureproofing.
Perhaps you didnt notice the "" Since its pretty much impossible to futureproof with computers.
Now is an especially bad time to try and future proof with CPUs. Within 6 months Intel will have launched their socket LGA 2011 (that's SB version of 1366 CPUs) high end Sandy Bridge CPUs as well as their mid-range Ivy Bridge CPUs. AMD should have desktop Bulldozer CPUs on shelves in a couple of months and 12 months after that the 22nm successor to Bulldozer... Of course, as you pointed out to me a while back, Bulldozer isn't looking too flash so we can cross that off the list, but that still leaves Bulldozer II (or whatever they end up calling it) before the end of 2012... That's a not of interesting new tech on the horizon.


But I bought it since I will be using watercooling soon so then I except to be able to oc it to around 4.8-4.9 (already got it to 4.5ghz with fake watercooling)
Fake? Come on, closed loop units like the Hydro and Kuhler series aren't fake they're just not as good for cooling as an open loop system. Better than HSF but not as good as a full open loop water cooling system. On the upside, they're cheaper and less maintenance than an open loop system.


(Budget doesnt mean bad).
Yeah but there's a difference between things that are a bargain for people on a limited budget and 'budget' products that are feature stripped and of less-than-optimum quality. Call it a quirk of modern english, but calling something 'Budget ' is shorthand for calling it cheap shit.
 

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RhombusHatesYou said:
Tubez said:
Matthew94 said:
Tubez said:
I bought my i7 2600k since I wanted to "future proof" it. So if you are building on a budget I would go with i5 otherwise I would stay with the i7 2600k
The difference in "futureproofing" between the 2500K and the 2600K is minimal, it foolish to call the i5 a budget CPU and the i7 for futureproofing.
Perhaps you didnt notice the "" Since its pretty much impossible to futureproof with computers.
Now is an especially bad time to try and future proof with CPUs. Within 6 months Intel will have launched their socket LGA 2011 (that's SB version of 1366 CPUs) high end Sandy Bridge CPUs as well as their mid-range Ivy Bridge CPUs. AMD should have desktop Bulldozer CPUs on shelves in a couple of months and 12 months after that the 22nm successor to Bulldozer... Of course, as you pointed out to me a while back, Bulldozer isn't looking too flash so we can cross that off the list, but that still leaves Bulldozer II (or whatever they end up calling it) before the end of 2012... That's a not of interesting new tech on the horizon.


But I bought it since I will be using watercooling soon so then I except to be able to oc it to around 4.8-4.9 (already got it to 4.5ghz with fake watercooling)
Fake? Come on, closed loop units like the Hydro and Kuhler series aren't fake they're just not as good for cooling as an open loop system. Better than HSF but not as good as a full open loop water cooling system. On the upside, they're cheaper and less maintenance than an open loop system.


(Budget doesnt mean bad).
Yeah but there's a difference between things that are a bargain for people on a limited budget and 'budget' products that are feature stripped and of less-than-optimum quality. Call it a quirk of modern english, but calling something 'Budget ' is shorthand for calling it cheap shit.

The reason I call it fake is simply so people know its a prebuilt watercooling.

They are not bad at all, but like you said they are not as good as real watercooling..
H100 seems pretty cool (240rad) .

Would have been nice to get a SB-E (6cores with HT) but since my cpu rarely goes over 20% use at standard clock, so it might be a bit overkill..

Well imo i5 is a budget version of the i7 since it doesnt have HT and a few things. But i5 is extremely good cpu for gaming atm.

Fun part about ivy bridge is that they will still use Socket 1155 so I will perhaps upgrade anyway since its always fun to get new stuff =).

And Im pretty sure the next generation after bulldozer will be called Komodo and will have 10+ cores.
 

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Sn1P3r M98 said:
Tubez said:
I bought my i7 2600k since I wanted to "future proof" it. So if you are building on a budget I would go with i5 otherwise I would stay with the i7 2600k

I also bought Sabertooth p67 and I do not know if they have fixed it in the new Rev, but my mine had a cool boot bug (started the computer, it reseted itself after a few secs and then started again) and its fixed by updating uefi

You shouldnt use 3x ram

With socket 1155 you should either use 2 sticks or 4 sticks

I've got 2x 480 and I would really recommend that you buy 570 instead since its so damn loud..

when I use 100% on both gpus they hover around 90'c with 75-80% fanspeed (100% = 5000rpm.)

if you already got 1x of the exact same hdd I would suggest that you buy that one and use raid them (unless you have important stuff on them)
To be honest, I'm not terribly worried about noise. Anything is better than my current computer, it sounds like a jet taking off.

Though 90 degrees is a little hot... I wonder if MSI's Twin Frozr 480 design is better at cooling than your 480. I'd go for the 570 right away, I'm just a little concerned about it having less memory than the 480.
90'c is no problem for 480 since they are built for it (my fanprofile bugged up so they went up to 105'c for 1min once) Twin frozr is excellent for single card, but if you have sli and two of those blowing hot air around in the chassi it can be a problem.

The only reason you will ever need more then 1gb of vram is if you are using nvidia surround ( 3x Screens 5760x1080 or higher resolution)
 

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BigTortoise said:
go with the i5 2500k. Games really don't make use of hyperthreading.

And btw, in a couple years, nvidia will probably move on to a gtx 600 series, in which that would be what you'd want.
Kepler is suppose to come early next year (600 serie)

Same with Amds 7000 serie
 

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RhombusHatesYou said:
Sn1P3r M98 said:
I'd go for the 570 right away, I'm just a little concerned about it having less memory than the 480.
EVGA do a 570 with 2560MB
Makes me wonder about the temps again, if it's running double the memory as the stock one. And could I SLI that with a 1280MB 570?

I'm leaning toward the i5 now though, it seems just fine for gaming, and great for overclocking.
 

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Tubez said:
The only reason you will ever need more then 1gb of vram is if you are using nvidia surround ( 3x Screens 5760x1080 or higher resolution)
I wonder if I should go with the 570 then, seeing as this one has a higher clock than the 480.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130692
 

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Sn1P3r M98 said:
Tubez said:
The only reason you will ever need more then 1gb of vram is if you are using nvidia surround ( 3x Screens 5760x1080 or higher resolution)
I wonder if I should go with the 570 then, seeing as this one has a higher clock than the 480.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130692
Seems like a very good card and Evga is a great company
 

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Tubez said:
Sn1P3r M98 said:
Tubez said:
The only reason you will ever need more then 1gb of vram is if you are using nvidia surround ( 3x Screens 5760x1080 or higher resolution)
I wonder if I should go with the 570 then, seeing as this one has a higher clock than the 480.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130692
Seems like a very good card and Evga is a great company
I think I might pick that then. I still wonder if I could SLI that with the 2.5GB one though... EDIT: Just found out that you cannot mix cards with different memory amounts. That's alright, I'm not planning on running multiple monitors anytime soon.

Thanks for all the help!