Any religious discussion ending with "You just have to have faith" or something to that effect. Ugh. Which brings me to one of my favorite quotes "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." -Mark Twain
Because having a standing army and a police force as well as national infrastructure, education, social security, protection of law and all that doesn't appeal to you?Chefodeath said:Spencer Petersen said:I disagree, the quote is meant to remind people that if everyone just relied on the system without actually putting anything into it it brings it down, and as members of your country it is your obligation to help one another. He doesn't say federal government, he just say country, which I see more as your fellow man than any bureaucracy.Chefodeath said:For me, its that infamous JFK quote. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." Why the hell is this popular? I thought the entire point of a non-tyranical government is to serve its people. If I wanted to support some bloated beast fat and well past its usefulness, I'd get married.
And what do I care for a system which has nothing to offer me? Is JFK perhaps implying that I rely on the state, so I should therefore shut the fuck up and silently continue its upkeep? Well, that just sounds like the most hideous breed of blackmail.
Either way, its an ugly quote to me.
Nothing wrong with thinking for yourself by reading material, logically analysing it, and appropriating relevant parts of it in debates, while giving all due credit to the original authors of the ideas.TU4AR said:Anyone who quotes Dawkins, Hitchens, Carlin, The Bible, or any Pope/Saint during a religious debate (unless the person in question is what is currently being discussed).
THINK FOR YOURSELVES YOU FUCKERS
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." ("Je désapprouve ce que vous dites, mais je défendrai à la mort votre droit à le dire") - Voltaire [A]
This line comes from The Friends of Voltaire (1907) by Evelyn Beatrice Hall. It resembles the actual line "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too" from Voltaire's Essay on Tolerance.
Kind of like "piracy is stealing". No it's not! It might be wrong, but stealing is something different.Ambi said:- "Meat is murder" No, it isn't. It just makes you look like idiots who twist the meanings of words to further their cause, and the stigma rubs off on to vegetarians who aren't dumb enough to use this slogan.
Try anything involving chuck norris, i sooo wanna maim people that use that.ReservoirAngel said:The only quote from..ANYTHING that makes me confused to the point of anger is the whole "Over 9000!" thing
seriously, i fucking HATE that!!!
It's funny, then... as the entire reason most American wars are claimed to start for are the principles of democracy.Pirate Kitty said:I think you missed the point of what they were saying.
They were saying, you see, turning the other cheek and preaching peace is fantastic, until you get vigorously beaten.
If the USA's principle's were peace, it wouldn't be involved in so much war.Pirate Kitty said:I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.
My point is that preaching peace only works up until the enemy kills you. At some point you need to fight back. I'm not condoning any of the wars or saying war is good, I'm simply saying if you don't fight back, the aggressors will kill you.
Well I've often heard the addendum:crudus said:"Great minds think alike"
This may be true but people use it as a compliment toward themselves by trying to take it backwards. "Oh, you also thought about firing bottle rockets up you nose? Man, great minds do think alike". I started to coin "Similar minds think alike". That was stupid, tautologous, and said nothing. So I started saying "Great minds think alike iff the minds are first proven great".