R.I.P. Flareon

[pretentiousname01]

BTW, fav pokemon who sucks? Ditto.

actually dream world ditto is being listed as one of the top teirs in 5th gen.

Also glaceon sucks.

 

[LeafofStone]

Ok favourite pokemon that sucks has to be either Lanturn or Spheal. I would ALWAYS catch these two and use them in R/S. However just putting this out there, but does Lapras just really really suck? I mean i can put up with a Lanturn in my team and i cant stand having it in my party!
And funny thing is that my favourite eeveeloution was the one that no body ever got, Leafeon. I mean i mean at lvl 30 it had more defence than a lvl 45 Aggron without EV training.

 

[Miniges]

soooo many less-than-god-tier pokemon i love with all my heart.
-Zangoose
-Scyther
-all those shitty normals in the first area

 

[Amyler]

Actually, Gen 5 is adding a shit-ton of dragon-types. Check out the list on Bulbapedia. And a lot of them are Pure-Dragon. There is a Dragon-Ice, Dragon-Electric, Dragon-Fire, Dragon-Dark... It's pretty crazy. Last Gen was the highest number of legendaries. Now we get dragons. It's insane.

I've been following it closely, and I'm trepadatious but excited all the same. Not just dragons, either; have you seen how many freaking fightings we're getting? Plus, revamps of old mon's much? Blaziken. Speed Boost. Goodbye Infernape, goodbye Pokabu! You were never as cool as the kickboxing chicken! >=D

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Milotic still takes home my "my most loved pokemon" title of Generation 3 (?) to this day. However, I still could never find fucking Feebas. Did anyone actually manage to catch the SoB?!

..I really want to get back into this series, damnit! >_<

I need money. And a DS. NAOW!

 

[Supp]

Who uses flareon anyway?

BTW, fav pokemon who sucks? Ditto.

Actually, gen 5 Ditto is pretty awesome. Its ability automatically copies stats/moves so you can take out your opponent's strongest pokemon.

 

[Defense]

I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.

Check out the UU tier. Venasaur is a beast among its bretheren. Swords Dance + Power Whip = Murderous bastard. Add in Sleep Powder and you're more or less garunteed the power to set up and sweep.

Myself, I love Flygon. It's not that he's bad ... but really guys? Another Ground/Dragon in the next generation with higher base stats in Everything and a better movepool? Bah.

I didn't mean in UU, I meant in general. Yeah, it may be viable in UU, but no one in their right mind will use Venusaur in OU. It's outclassed by other pokemon.

I always had a soft spot for Venusaur, if only for nostalgia. It's not Meganium bad, but it's pretty bottom-tier in the metagame, and the grass/poison typing almost guarantees it from the get-go.

Check out the UU tier. Venasaur is a beast among its bretheren. Swords Dance + Power Whip = Murderous bastard. Add in Sleep Powder and you're more or less garunteed the power to set up and sweep.

Myself, I love Flygon. It's not that he's bad ... but really guys? Another Ground/Dragon in the next generation with higher base stats in Everything and a better movepool? Bah.

Actually, Gen 5 is adding a shit-ton of dragon-types. Check out the list on Bulbapedia. And a lot of them are Pure-Dragon. There is a Dragon-Ice, Dragon-Electric, Dragon-Fire, Dragon-Dark... It's pretty crazy. Last Gen was the highest number of legendaries. Now we get dragons. It's insane.

Did someone say legendary?

But yeah, I agree, it's pretty crazy.

 

[Aura Guardian]

Dear Game Freak,

Can you stop making Flareon suck? Can you at least give it Earthquake or Flare Blitz? Or some kinda decent physical attack moves? Flareon has a massive attack stat, and absolute nothing to do with it. Flareon is actually better off using a special attack based moveset, and that's a damn shame. Super Power ain't enough. No STAB. Stat drop after use, and poor type coverage.

All the other Eeveelutions are totally viable in one way or another.

Espeon is Psychic death. Umbreon can tank and stall. Vaporeon can tank, sweep, stall, heal, and do it all. Jolteon is fast as fuck, and an exceptional Baton Passer. Leafeon has a great attack and defense stats, and a varied movepool to go with it. Glaceon is a pretty damn good Ice type, with good special attack.

It's Generation 5.

You have actually had 6 chances to fix Flareon merely by adding a few moves...Gen 2. Gen 3. Fire Red/Leaf Green. Gen 4. Heart Gold/Soul Silver. And now...Gen 5. And you still make Flareon suck.

R.I.P. Flareon

And F.U. Game Freak.

Worst Wishes,
Onyx
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STAB = Same Type Attack Bonus, meaning that if a pokemon is the same type as the move it used, it does 1.5x damage. 1.25x for dual type pokemon.

For some discussion:
What's your favorite pokemon to use that actually sucks?

Onyx...You know my PBR teams I've made. You know who I use and what tier they fall in.

 

[1000000]

Let's see. I don't know much about the pokemon competitive meta so bear with me. I mostly just pick pokemon based on looks and uniqueness so let me just throw some of my favorites out there under the assumption that they probably suck:

Farfetch'd
Parasect
Wobbuffet - although I hear tell wobbuffet is actually good and sometimes banned? is that true?

 

[Gxas]

snip

Spoiler: Too, too, too, too, appropriate.

 

[Pinstar]

Go for a Ninetails
Flamethrower
Hypnosis
Energy Ball
Nasty Plot

Can put them to sleep, set up with a Nasty Plot, and the Grass attack energy ball takes care of waters, grounds and rock types that would other wise counter it.

Ironically, the only type she's weak against is other fire types.

I do agree that flareon needs some help. Anyone know what moves it can learn in B/W?

 

[Zoose]

Porygon was always my favorite back in the day. I have heard about the new evolutions for it, but the original Porygon will always be the best.

 

[Double A]

In the Kanto games, I always caught me a Clefairy in Mt Moon and evolved it. It really sucked because I forgot Clefable couldn't learn new moves.

And I don't know if this counts, but in my first Ruby playthrough, at the last gym, I had a level 26 Ninjask in my party. It was also my last pokemon and killed Wally's Milotic with a quick attack.

Muk - I love that fat lumox.
Seadra - I love that crazy little psycho
Aerodactyl - Damn you'se be rockin
Kabutops - Check out your bitchin blades

I pick pokemon based purely on looks so, to be honest, most of them suck .

I know Aerodactyl doesn't suck (due to speed up the ass), and I don't think Muk or Kabutops suck either. Seadra kinda does, though.

Pidgeot. Looks so majestic, but in actuality sucks donkey penis.

In Gold, I had two. I never could figure out why they fainted so often if I didn't use Fly (I normally didn't have both at the same time).

 

[RelexCryo]

I agree, I love using the Eeveelutions, and it is a shame Flareon sucks.

I can't think of any pokemon that I use frequently that is no good. Hitmonchan (Hitmonlee is so much better, but I like having both) sucked until generation 4, so I'll go with that.

I loved Hitmonchan and Sneazel. Sigh.

 

[InnerRebellion]

I used to think Magneton and Dugtrio were the best Pokemon ever.

Now I realize, they suck.

 

[Crazed_Puppeteer]

Gen 5 also introduces the Level 1 Aron sweep.

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This, honestly, has made my year. The inner person in me is jumping up and down in jubilation, but it's 12:14 in the morning...

OT: I forgot about Houndoom, Arcanine, and Quagsire. Great pokemon designs, but behind better pokemon in online modes.

EDIT: Sorry, forgot to mention that this is TerranReaper's video. Thank you so much for it!

 

[Anchupom]

My favorite pokemon that sucks?
Do Magicarp or Abra count?

I have a soft-spot for those two.

If not, the caterpie line of evolution. I just think they're pweety.

Funny you say that.

I saw a youtube video of a guy with a level 100 magikarp defeat an entire team of legendary pokemon (also level 100).

Someone want to quote me and post that vid? I can't find it. Funny stuff.

Yeah, I think I saw that. I believe he tanked with a focus band, and used flail after baton-passing a ton of attack and speed.

Come to think of it, I saw something similar with a caterpie...

Along with a Weedle sweep. Gen 5 also introduces the Level 1 Aron sweep.

Oh man, that was some nice meta-game thinking.

Too bad the other guy didn't have any ghost types.
Must think of new counter...

Well, the thing with the level 1 aron is that it is currently banned for use. Reasoning is that there are very little counters to it and you will always need one slot on your team to specifically counter it.

Exactly, as I said, all I can think of is a ghost.

However, I wonder who came up with it, or how long it took for it to occur to them.

Here's the Magikarp Sweep mentioned earlier:
youtube.com/watch?v=ye7b3bOQ6lY
And on the Aron sweep, couldn't something that resisted sadnstorm, something with Toxic or something with Roar or Whirlwind just end that sweep?

Correct, those could work, you just have to ensure you don't damage the Aron with a move that would normally kill it. Keep in mind though, not a lot of teams carry Roar or Whirlwind, plus they are low priority moves, and Toxic will leave the user with only 12-13 hp, which it would most likely guarantee a revenge kill after the Aron is dead.

Isn't there an ability that prioritises non-damaging moves in Gen 5 now? Quick "GTFO, Aron" right there.

There's an ability that allows to increase the priority by one, but it's not enough to help matters.
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Teasing_Heart_(ability)
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Priority

Yeah that's the one I was talking of, but I a misunderstood what it was. I thought it was a sort of "This move is going first, no argument" kind of ability.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

I thought this was going to be a thread about how Flareon was good and now he's crap...because he's always been crap. I'm glad you know this.

Thing is, because he sucks so bad, I'm not too bothered about him still sucking. I've always preferred the tank properties of Vaporeon, and the blistering speed of Jolteon. I just look at Flareon and think "meh, I've got Arcanine...".

I thought Flareon and others were females not male................

So does that mean Blastoise,Nidoking,Ninetales,Arcanine,Alakazam(Kadabra,Abra),Marowak(cuebone),Kabutops and Dragonite all suck now??

If you give us a reason as to why they suck...

The reason I never gave a reason is because the OP summed it up.