Eh, seems more reasonable to exclude someone based on how they think and act then what family they were born into.inu-kun said:We don't do race in Israel (mostly), we do religion, so I'd be okay dating a women of any race as long as she's either jewish/converts to Judaism or we agree to raise our kids as Jews (and I love her). It might seem a bit villainous to some people, but I do like my culture and rather have it keep going.
I haven't yet. Not because I'm opposed to the idea, not at all, but simply because it just hasn't happened. I wouldn't pass up dating a woman I'm into because she's black, latina, asian or whatever else.Do you date outside your race? If so how often?
The loins desire what they they desire. Not my place to say they can't like X or Y. As for locally, most Belgians are fine with most interracial matches, or at least the younger generations are. There are however some prejudices against non-Muslim/Muslim couples, partially because of racism, partially because of religious reasons.How do you view racial prefrences as whole? (in society)
On the whole, I find latina and asian women a tad more attractive than white or black women. That said, there is beauty everywhere in the world.Do you find yourself attracted or not attracted to certain race or races?
I find dark eyes and long black hair that isn't too curly very attractive in a woman. Both traits are more common in latina or asian women than in white or black women.Can you describe why you might have these preferences/dislikes?
I used to be strictly into white women, as those were the only ones I had much contact with, but my tastes have diversified over the years as I've gotten more exposed to other races. No reason to believe that will change.Do you think your mind has changed about any of this from the past or is subject to change in the future?
Frokane said:I ask you these questions.
Do you date outside your race? If so how often?
Yes, not sure what the "often" nuance here is, so I guess "sometimes" will have to do.
How do you view racial prefrences as whole? (in society)
I don't view them, that's a bizarre question and notion in general.
Do you find yourself attracted or not attracted to certain race or races?
I tend to prefer Asians.
Can you describe why you might have these prefrences/dislikes?
Appearance and cultural reasons. I tend to like petite and skinny physique which genetically presents itself in Asians the most. Culturally, I prefer people who share my interests/passions and it so happens to be that in both of those fields, Asians tend to share them the most, on average.
Do you think your mind has changed about any of this from the past or is subject to change in the future?
When I was younger I used to prefer pale redheads the most but this has changed as I grew older. I think this was mainly due to that being what my first crush looked like though. She was a friend's girl so I never approached her and I guess I ended up carrying that torch a while due to that.
Didn't two out of his three options already have little to do with the family the partner was born into?Thaluikhain said:Eh, seems more reasonable to exclude someone based on how they think and act then what family they were born into.inu-kun said:We don't do race in Israel (mostly), we do religion, so I'd be okay dating a women of any race as long as she's either jewish/converts to Judaism or we agree to raise our kids as Jews (and I love her). It might seem a bit villainous to some people, but I do like my culture and rather have it keep going.
You don't prefer blue eyes? Outta here!Chimpzy said:I find dark eyes very attractive in a woman.
I meant that race was dependent on family.McElroy said:Didn't two out of his three options already have little to do with the family the partner was born into?Thaluikhain said:Eh, seems more reasonable to exclude someone based on how they think and act then what family they were born into.inu-kun said:We don't do race in Israel (mostly), we do religion, so I'd be okay dating a women of any race as long as she's either jewish/converts to Judaism or we agree to raise our kids as Jews (and I love her). It might seem a bit villainous to some people, but I do like my culture and rather have it keep going.
I'd agree, it's part of the broad "compatible beliefs" thing, which is going to be important.inu-kun said:Those are also reasons I have. In general, I don't really think it is much difference than, for example, a vegan wanting to date another vegan.
Well religion is usually based on family too. People tend to raise their children in the beliefs they have, and those tend to be the ones that stick for most people. For example, you don't find many devout Christians raising their children as Jewish, though the child might convert at a later date to whatever new belief they choose for themselves. Usually though, they stick to what they were raised in. So in essence, that's based on family too for most people.Thaluikhain said:I meant that race was dependent on family.McElroy said:Didn't two out of his three options already have little to do with the family the partner was born into?Thaluikhain said:Eh, seems more reasonable to exclude someone based on how they think and act then what family they were born into.inu-kun said:We don't do race in Israel (mostly), we do religion, so I'd be okay dating a women of any race as long as she's either jewish/converts to Judaism or we agree to raise our kids as Jews (and I love her). It might seem a bit villainous to some people, but I do like my culture and rather have it keep going.
Oh certainly, and politics and other ideologies as well.Happyninja42 said:Well religion is usually based on family too. People tend to raise their children in the beliefs they have, and those tend to be the ones that stick for most people. For example, you don't find many devout Christians raising their children as Jewish, though the child might convert at a later date to whatever new belief they choose for themselves. Usually though, they stick to what they were raised in. So in essence, that's based on family too for most people.
Yes I know, that's why I said things like "usually" and "tend to" etc. xD And as someone who was raised Methodist and is now Atheist, yes I can confirm people can change their worldview. Something I also stated. Just pointing out that for the majority of people, they tend to stick to the belief system they were raised with.Thaluikhain said:Oh certainly, and politics and other ideologies as well.Happyninja42 said:Well religion is usually based on family too. People tend to raise their children in the beliefs they have, and those tend to be the ones that stick for most people. For example, you don't find many devout Christians raising their children as Jewish, though the child might convert at a later date to whatever new belief they choose for themselves. Usually though, they stick to what they were raised in. So in essence, that's based on family too for most people.
However, in theory people can (and do) move away from that, your ethnicity is unlikely to change.
While your ethnicity won't ever change, your culture isn't tied to it and I find that culture is a bigger deciding factor for relationships than ethnicity in the modern era where you can be into pretty much any sub-culture you like as long as you have internet.Thaluikhain said:Oh certainly, and politics and other ideologies as well.Happyninja42 said:Well religion is usually based on family too. People tend to raise their children in the beliefs they have, and those tend to be the ones that stick for most people. For example, you don't find many devout Christians raising their children as Jewish, though the child might convert at a later date to whatever new belief they choose for themselves. Usually though, they stick to what they were raised in. So in essence, that's based on family too for most people.
However, in theory people can (and do) move away from that, your ethnicity is unlikely to change.
1) I would if it had come up, however I am now in a 5 year relationship with someone and all previous relationships were within my race so not looking likely to change.Frokane said:Wooo, aint messing about with this one, time for something a bit heavy.
So one of the most fascinating things to me as someone who works in the dating industry, is that racial discrimination(both positive and negative) is broadly socially unacceptable in all contexts apart from dating. You can hear something like " I dont find people particularly attractive" or "I find myself more drawn to qualities in people". Now I'm not saying its racism and I'm not saying its not racism, but its an aspect of preference that seems to be uncomfortable to explaore so......lets explore it.
I ask you these questions.
Do you date outside your race? If so how often?
How do you view racial prefrences as whole? (in society)
Do you find yourself attracted or not attracted to certain race or races?
Can you describe why you might have these prefrences/dislikes?
Do you think your mind has changed about any of this from the past or is subject to change in the future?
I will answer theese myself, but feel free to go first. Unlike my other threads, this is a fairly serious topic so I although I would usually encourage it, I ask that the snark be kept to a minimum.
Saying that Greeks don't discriminate against Arabs who speak Greek is like saying that Brits don't discriminate against Germans who speak English. I don't know very many Greeks who would be okay with their daughter marrying a black African just because he speaks Greek. If they ask him what he is and he says "Greek", be prepared for a loud and resounding "PFFFFF".Dreiko said:As someone who lived in Greece for the first 17 years of my life, this nuance is very pronounced, as a lot of people there are ethnically Arabs, at least in part, due to the centuries of Ottoman occupation. Be that as it may, by being culturally Greek, that entirely overwrites that ethnicity and makes them Greek. There's no such Arab-Greeks distinction like how you have here with Arab-Americans, if you're born there and speak the tongue you're just Greek. I think this system works in new ways now that we have the internet and people are free to learn about and participate with other cultures and it allows for people to bypass ethnicity entirely and get at what actually makes people get along.
manic_depressive13 said:Saying that Greeks don't discriminate against Arabs who speak Greek is like saying that Brits don't discriminate against Germans who speak English. I don't know very many Greeks who would be okay with their daughter marrying a black African just because he speaks Greek. If they ask him what he is and he says "Greek", be prepared for a loud and resounding "PFFFFF".Dreiko said:As someone who lived in Greece for the first 17 years of my life, this nuance is very pronounced, as a lot of people there are ethnically Arabs, at least in part, due to the centuries of Ottoman occupation. Be that as it may, by being culturally Greek, that entirely overwrites that ethnicity and makes them Greek. There's no such Arab-Greeks distinction like how you have here with Arab-Americans, if you're born there and speak the tongue you're just Greek. I think this system works in new ways now that we have the internet and people are free to learn about and participate with other cultures and it allows for people to bypass ethnicity entirely and get at what actually makes people get along.