Wait what? If anyone is a minority it's the Orcs. They are a small nation that's constantly being invaded and sacked. Besides speciesism has always been a big part of the elder scrolls since each species has their own province they usually want to keep outsiders, well, outside.Oscar Ben Newton said:I have been to an Orc stronghold and things got a little bit dirty, they really are very rasist and speciasist, but like I said earlier I dont mind the large groups hating on eachother. Its when it comes to opressing a minority that it gets to me.
Of course a N'wah would say that, the Dunmer just want to be left alone you S'wit.Tigurus said:I believe Morrowind had it a bit worse. With racism, slavery etc.
Fun times. But hey! It's war and society! WhoO
They sell unrefined drugs like Moon Sugar to anyone who cares, quite clearly they are not welcomed to establish a Skooma Drug Cartell inside a Nord city. I remember a Kajit lass who blantaly told me she hasRT-Medic-with-shotgun said:That squatter camp is a roving band of Khajit merchants. Its the caravan and they sell some useful stuff from time to time. They don't raise children on the caravan because it is too dangerous.
Or they were just a police force with an arrest warrant trying to capture a known female terrorist who sold out an entire city full of lovely buxoms Redguards to the Nazi-THALMORs!!!RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:The redguard they are kicking out tried to kidnap a girl(investigate the quest) and were disturbing the peace. They were special operations troopers from Hammerfell.
What's different between national pride and racist's superiority, especially in a game where each country consists of a very different race with distinctive features. In this peciuliar case its the same.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:As for nord power yeah its more of a national pride thing than a superiority thing. While some of ulfrics cannnon fodder think nords are superior to all things you forget what they hate the most.
They are the secondary antagonist of this game. The Nazi-Sidekick-Villain of the Spy movie. Once you had a good look at those Nords in Windhelm you can't really blame them, still they are Nazis and their heads look nice on a pike.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:The high elves that think they are so superior that humans and other mortals need wiped out. The one that want the civil war dragged out as long as possible to maximize human casualties and increase the odds of destroying them utterly and completely.
Really? It was one of the few places where I thought you were measured by your prowess in battle rather than you skin color. Probably suceeded some Speech checks there, please specify.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:Fucks sake visit an Orc stronghold. They hate everyone.
As I said before, while they are most likely an intriguing antagonist I can't really blame them, I would be the same after one week together with the Stormcloaks.RT-Medic-with-shotgun said:Thalmor patrols want to kidnap you and torture you so you will confess to something you did not do; they hate humans as an inferior species THAT FUCKING MUCH!
That is true, I cant remember a single time in Morrowind where I saw a Khajiit or Argonian that wasnt a slave. Why are those two groups hated so badly by the other groups?Tigurus said:I believe Morrowind had it a bit worse. With racism, slavery etc.
Fun times. But hey! It's war and society! WhoO
They're the 'beast races', and have always been seen as primitives by the elves, who occupied Tamriel long before the human races showed up.Oscar Ben Newton said:That is true, I cant remember a single time in Morrowind where I saw a Khajiit or Argonian that wasnt a slave. Why are those two groups hated so badly by the other groups?Tigurus said:I believe Morrowind had it a bit worse. With racism, slavery etc.
Fun times. But hey! It's war and society! WhoO
he does that to everyone >.> Its also a joke. Its a play on the current day's salesmen claiming they can buy anything cheap and sell it for a massive profitgriffinith said:Wow.. I guess not too many play as Redguard eh? Always fun having a general good store clerk outside of Dragonreach offering to buy one of my relatives.
So the reason for all the hate against the Khajiit and Argonians is exactly like what happened in South Africa, or well any country that was colonised by a colonial power. The Colomial power comes into a country that is not theirs and stomps on the natives?Aethren said:They're the 'beast races', and have always been seen as primitives by the elves, who occupied Tamriel long before the human races showed up.Oscar Ben Newton said:That is true, I cant remember a single time in Morrowind where I saw a Khajiit or Argonian that wasnt a slave. Why are those two groups hated so badly by the other groups?Tigurus said:I believe Morrowind had it a bit worse. With racism, slavery etc.
Fun times. But hey! It's war and society! WhoO
jthwilliams said:well you might argue that it is speciesism rather than racism as I don't think the human's and the mer can inner-breed. Also the nords only seem to really dislike emperials because emperials abuse the nords. They don't seem to be very any redgaurd for example.
But I'm just being pedantic. Yes, there is a very strong "Skyrim for the Nords" theme.
For an interesting read on the interbreeding issue, find the book "On Racial Phylogeny" (in game, that is. It's even a Restoration skillbook, so worth looking up for that too). For one thing it explores the origin of the humanoid "races" of Tamriel a bit, but it's also written in the style of a scientist who thinks he's above petty discrimination but can't help being just as racist an ass as the rest of his civilization!jthwilliams said:well you might argue that it is speciesism rather than racism as I don't think the human's and the mer can inner-breed. (snip)
pffh said:Maath serah, traveller.Oscar Ben Newton said:(snip)
Of course a N'wah would say that, the Dunmer just want to be left alone you S'wit.
The Bretons were supposed to be the offspring of Wood Elves and either humans and Imperials, or something right? Which accounts for their enhanced lifespan. (Case in point a certain Breton character you meet looks young and blonde but is in her late fifties)jthwilliams said:well you might argue that it is speciesism rather than racism as I don't think the human's and the mer can inner-breed. Also the nords only seem to really dislike emperials because emperials abuse the nords. They don't seem to be very any redgaurd for example.
But I'm just being pedantic. Yes, there is a very strong "Skyrim for the Nords" theme.
Yeah both sides are somewhat racist, Stormcloaks more so. The problem with the Imperials is that they are being treated like the Thalmor's *****. It's why I've been unable to pick a side yet and I'm level 35, neither of these groups deserve to run Skyrim.Outcast107 said:I just ant to say, Whiterun is neutral and not part of the StormCloaks. Though they are more for the Imperial side so..go figure. Both sides are racist.Irridium said:Of course. It's everywhere.
It's happening because there's a rebellion going on between the Empire and the Stormcloaks. Stormcloaks want all non-nord occupants out of Skyrim. Empire wants to keep things the way they are. Makes sense in-universe. And it's pretty much why I didn't join the Stormcloaks.
Though I agree it's not too subtle, but then again considering Nord culture, subtlety wouldn't be one of their strong suits.
Go to Windhelm. Plenty of racism there.
And the guy talks about your "norse power" no matter what race you are. Just replace "Norse" with "Imperial", "Orc", "Argonian", and so on and you get the idea. Supposed to make you feel good about choosing your class.