RATM Vs. X-Factor update: Cowell and Cole Rage Aginst RATM

[Sassafrass]

If this has been done, sorry. But this is an update for all of those interested.

Yeah, he's annoyed at RATM and the people that bought Killing in the Name. Shame on you!​

Simon Cowell has come out and criticized the Facebook group which is backing RATM Killing in the Name by saying they are basically bulling the winner of a talent competition.
Cowell has spoken to The Sun, a British newspaper from his luxury holiday in Barbados to tell The Sun's showbiz editor this:

"All these musical snobs have ganged up against Joe.

"If you take me out of the equation, you have a teenager with his first single being attacked by a huge hate mob on Facebook. It almost feels like a little kid being bullied. It feels like a spiteful campaign aimed at an 18-year-old who won a talent competition.

"It's David versus Goliath and it's not fair on Joe. It's getting out of hand."

Meanwhile Cheryl Cole, the mentor of The X-Factor winner Joe McElderry, has also come out swinging with strong words against the campaign.
Mrs Cole has said:

"I would be devastated to see Joe lose out. He put his heart and soul into every single week of The X Factor.

"I cannot bear to see him lose to a mean campaign that has nothing to do with his efforts."

Meanwhile, the front man of the band that has caused all this, Zack De La Rocha has come out in defence of this by personally attacking Cowell and the X-Factor in general.

The RATM singer said:

"Simon is an interesting character. He seems to have profited greatly off humiliating people on live television and has a unique position of capturing the attention of people on television, but also the airwaves."

For the full article, click here. [http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/2777019/Simon-Cowell-blasts-the-Rage-Against-The-Machine-Christmas-No1-plot.html]

And to add a bit of discussion here, what do you think of this?
Do you think it's bullying, or is Simon Cowell and Cheryl Cole reading too much into this?

And as I said, I'd just thought I'd post this as a separate update even though it is related to other threads.

EDIT: Just remembered, forgot the sales figures of the respective artists.

RATM: 306,000
Joe: 297,000

And it seems the count on the link is being updated every so often. It was 250,000 to 215,000 at time of original posting.

 

[Booze Zombie]

That is the most ridiculous picture I've ever seen.

 

[rokkolpo]

nice reply from RATM

 

[Daveman]

"All these musical snobs have ganged up against Joe.

"If you take me out of the equation, you have a teenager with his first single being attacked by a huge hate mob on Facebook. It almost feels like a little kid being bullied. It feels like a spiteful campaign aimed at an 18-year-old who won a talent competition.

"It's David versus Goliath and it's not fair on Joe. It's getting out of hand."

"Do you think it's bullying, or is Simon Cowell and Cheryl Cole reading too much into this?"
I'm pretty sure David won against Goliath and I think the analogy perfect. Except Goliath is X Factor and similar shows which have taken over the music industry and we are David the poor saps who nobody ever expects to win. Fuck you Simon Cowell, Fuck you and your retarded selection process for churning out momentarily popular pitiable people with talent that might've been picked up by the music industry where they would be supported and given a real future rather than at the most 3 years of fame. Whatever happened to Gareth Gates? Nobody gives a shit.

To compare this to bullying is laughable when you see what Simon Cowell does on TV. Wanker.

 

[Sassafrass]

That is the most ridiculous picture I've ever seen.

Well, I just used the pic from the article. Seemed fitting to me.

"All these musical snobs have ganged up against Joe.

"If you take me out of the equation, you have a teenager with his first single being attacked by a huge hate mob on Facebook. It almost feels like a little kid being bullied. It feels like a spiteful campaign aimed at an 18-year-old who won a talent competition.

"It's David versus Goliath and it's not fair on Joe. It's getting out of hand."

"Do you think it's bullying, or is Simon Cowell and Cheryl Cole reading too much into this?"
I'm pretty sure David won against Goliath and I think the analogy perfect. Except Goliath is X Factor and similar shows which have taken over the music industry and we are David the poor saps who nobody ever expects to win. Fuck you Simon Cowell, Fuck you and your retarded selection process for churning out momentarily popular pitiable people with talent that might've been picked up by the music industry where they would be supported and given a real future rather than at the most 3 years of fame. Whatever happened to Gareth Gates? Nobody gives a shit.

To compare this to bullying is laughable when you see what Simon Cowell does on TV. Wanker.

And I agree with you here.
He is just basically bullying people for his own ends. And money too.

 

[Nepeccel]

Cheryl Cole and Simon Cowell are idiots and say idiotic things. The facebook group isn't full of a hate mob against Joe, they just want good music as the xmas number 1 for once. It's pathetic that the X-factor judges think that it is Joe's right to win xmas number 1, no he doesn't, he just won a singing competition for pop singers.

I also agree with the poster who pointed out the irony in Simon Cowell's quote. His job is to smugly sit infront of someone singing and then tell them how rubbish they are. the facebook group don't say that Joe is a crap singer, they just want RATM as no.1

 

[O277]

I don't think they realise that the people who bought the RATM (me included) have nothing against Joe, It's the X Factor in general, the british public have been bombarded with this crap for 5 years straight.

And because they get so much airtime/radio time, that single will get the most coverage, which leads the X Factor to be christmas number 1 each year, and totally not fair on other artists, I hope this happens every year, I just think that Simon is a bit worried that this year he actually has to do some work promoting his act, and has to actually fight to get his hit to number 1.

Which might be a bit hard sitting on a deck chair in the Bahamas... T**T

 

[spikeyjoey]

They are both on the Sony label.. its a consipracy

 

[Torque669]

Well whatever they say, they should know that while every single time "Killing in the Name of" sells, RATM are giving about 3/4 of it to charity while everytime someone buys Joe' record all the money goes into Simon's and Joe's pocket.

Also did anyone else hear when RATM were playing live on the radio and the lead singer ended up saying "Fuck you I wont do what you tell me" and they didnt blank it out. They had to act really fast to get the rest covered.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

I wouldn't credit either side as a good source of information in this debate, seeing as all three people you've mentioned would stand to gain money from their side winning the most support. So they would all have quite a lot of reason to be bias in this argument.

 

[FightThePower]

Cowell gets the wrong end of the stick entirely. It's not a hate campaign against one person, it's a statement against the vice-like grip X Factor has on the charts. A grip it doesn't deserve because a) the music is rubbish and b) the only reason people buy it is because it was on the X Factor.

 

[NeutralMunchHotel]

"All these musical snobs have ganged up against Joe.

"If you take me out of the equation, you have a teenager with his first single being attacked by a huge hate mob on Facebook. It almost feels like a little kid being bullied. It feels like a spiteful campaign aimed at an 18-year-old who won a talent competition.

"It's David versus Goliath and it's not fair on Joe. It's getting out of hand."

"Do you think it's bullying, or is Simon Cowell and Cheryl Cole reading too much into this?"
I'm pretty sure David won against Goliath and I think the analogy perfect. Except Goliath is X Factor and similar shows which have taken over the music industry and we are David the poor saps who nobody ever expects to win. Fuck you Simon Cowell, Fuck you and your retarded selection process for churning out momentarily popular pitiable people with talent that might've been picked up by the music industry where they would be supported and given a real future rather than at the most 3 years of fame. Whatever happened to Gareth Gates? Nobody gives a shit.

To compare this to bullying is laughable when you see what Simon Cowell does on TV. Wanker.

Sorry, but... This! This! A thousand times this!

Using the David and Goliath analogy, Cowell has just made himself seem like a complete idiot. I think he assumed that Joe would come across as David... I don't think 'David' came from a family that had dominated the Christmas Charts for the past five years.

 

[ibatterbadgers]

They are both on the Sony label.. its a consipracy

The RATM protest purchase has nothing to do with taking money away from the record label- it is merely an attempt to break X-factors hold on the Christmas charts.

It puzzles me how the X-factor can actually go on calling itself a talent competition anyway. With the fact John and Edward, who were devoid of any talent what-so-ever, made it so far through the series the notion that a performers abilities counts for anything above the shows ratings figures and Sycos profits nowadays is almost laughable. This probably isn't helped by the fact that people were pre-ordering the single DAYS BEFORE THE WINNER WAS DECIDED!

"So your buying it because it's good eh? Well who is it?"

"Errr...They were on the X-factor"

Very good..

 

[Captain Pancake]

Look, If Simon Cowell was taken out of the equation, I wouldn't care, because then this Joe kid would be an artist that made it on his own merit, and I would wish all the luck to him. It's because he went with X-factor instead, taken under Simon Cowell's wing for fifteen minutes of fame. I couldn't give a shit about Joe. This is on Simon and his monopoly on what used to be an interesting race.

 

[RikSharp]

IF (simon cowell) was taken out of the equation, then joe would not be in a position to be in the christmas number one spot.
logic fail @ mr cowell