Re: How would you act if given absolute power over an alien civilization?

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Wintermute said:
I'd draw dicks in the sand a la the Nazca lines and make other random dick shaped artifacts for future generations of tiny aliens to find, eventually they'll invent TV and have their own "aliens" guy.

Edit: apparently they already have trucks and shit, so they probably have TVs too. Well, they can always film me drawing dicks in the sand and upload it to youtube.
This made me laugh way more than it should have; well-crafted humor indeed.

I?d probably leave them alone because my girlfriend?s cat is already more responsibility for lesser beings than I want, but if inaction is against the spirit of the thread, I?ll say I?d play the benevolent-yet-vengeful god: rewarding kindness and decency whilst smiting evil and hatred in every form, violently, swiftly and publicly, until fear of my wrath engrained itself at the genetic level of my people. I?d basically be the God of the Old Testament, but without favoring any singular persons or people for arbitrary reasons or the narcissistic need to be prayed to and worshipped; go head pray to a golden calf if you want, but Me help you if you covet your neighbor?s wife?
 

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But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
 
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jakeyjakey said:
But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
What gifts do you think a race that tiny could present you with? You can knock their tallest buildings over with your bare hands, what can they make you that you won't accidentally crush?
 

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jakeyjakey said:
But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
How would it be? To put it plainly, it would be annoying.

It would be more interesting that instead of being a god, you called yourself a giant who just wants to be left in peace and that waythey don't prattle on to you about religious concerns, and leave you to your work becoming unstranded.
 

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jakeyjakey said:
But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
That is the opposite of awesome... It is creepy. I once had a guy who kept putting gifts and letters in my locker every day for months. It is not good, it made me very uncomfortable. Even worse, you would have them doing this because they are afraid rather than genuinely caring for you or valuing you as a person.

It would feel gross, cheap, shallow and of course, boring to have people do what you say because they are terrified you will harm them or their loved ones. To me, that just comes across as weak rather than powerful. Powerful is to have people admire you because of your amazing works and accomplishments and genuinely respect you for how valuable you are to society for making the world a better place for everyone in it simply because you want to help rather than force them to pretend to do so out of fear for their loved ones. There is a difference. One is valuable and needed, the other is a waste the world would be better off without. Why would anyone want to be the primary thing the world would be better off without? That would be terrible.
 

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Palindromemordnilap said:
jakeyjakey said:
But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
What gifts do you think a race that tiny could present you with? You can knock their tallest buildings over with your bare hands, what can they make you that you won't accidentally crush?
If they were technologically advanced humans, albeit tiny, they should be able to cooperate to a point where they could accomplish some pretty impressive things. Look at the Egyptian slaves and the pyramids. They would just need to divert nearly all their society's resources to sustaining their new god over advancing themselves.
 
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jakeyjakey said:
Palindromemordnilap said:
jakeyjakey said:
But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
What gifts do you think a race that tiny could present you with? You can knock their tallest buildings over with your bare hands, what can they make you that you won't accidentally crush?
If they were technologically advanced humans, albeit tiny, they should be able to cooperate to a point where they could accomplish some pretty impressive things. Look at the Egyptian slaves and the pyramids. They would just need to divert nearly all their society's resources to sustaining their new god over advancing themselves.
Why would you want a pyramid? What would you even do with a pyramid, they were generally of use only after their owner's death.
Also going to point out that if they're technologically advanced enough for that kind of construction then they're absolutely advanced enough to build something that can kill you. One decent rock to the head from a sufficiently powerful catapult and thats you taken care of
 

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I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
 

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jakeyjakey said:
I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
It would be far easier to utilize their collective efforts to kill you than to appease you. Simply because something is small does not mean it is not a threat. Being small has it's tactical advantages as well. They can fit inside your ears and nose. Brain eating amoeba, parasites, viruses are all very small and extremely lethal. Being that small it would not be difficult for some to attach themselves to the back of your clothing without you noticing and finding where you sleep. Being small they can easily hide from you. Why would they sit there and wait for you to harm them? They would hide and wait for you. Utilizing their collective efforts to rid themselves of you would be far more beneficial to their society long term thus would be the most logical course of action.


You would get what is coming to you in the end.
 
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jakeyjakey said:
I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
Actually, common misconception but the pyramids were not built by slaves. Construction was done by farmers hired during the dry season, since they were out of work until the Nile next flooded and they could get back to farming. I've actually seen it suggested that this might be why Egypt ended up with so many colossal buildings and structures: it was a way of making sure that chunk of their populace was both kept fed (their "wages" generally came in the form of fresh vegetables) and kept busy, and thus less likely to go on some kind of uprising.
In fact trying to maintain large populations of slaves has always been a very tricky undertaking, especially if you're going to treat them poorly. Trying to keep their helots under control often crippled the Spartan military for example

See, you say you're not worried about catapults, but it only has to be able to throw a reasonably sized pebble with about the same force as a human arm. People have died from such impacts before. And if you think they're not capable of building such a catapult, then are they going to be capable of building your pyramids?
Plus the way you're describing them, they seem to be equivalent to modern technology, which means you have to worry about gunpowder. You may not think a tiny catapult will get you, but a tiny artillery piece will be as lethal as any handgun.

Alternatively, if you're relying entirely on them for food, whats stopping them poisoning you? Or just realising they can get into a form of Mutually Assured Destruction where you could smash them to oblivion but doing so will mean you starve to death because now no-one's providing you food. Won't take them long to realise you need them more than they need you.
 

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Palindromemordnilap said:
jakeyjakey said:
I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
Actually, common misconception but the pyramids were not built by slaves. Construction was done by farmers hired during the dry season, since they were out of work until the Nile next flooded and they could get back to farming. I've actually seen it suggested that this might be why Egypt ended up with so many colossal buildings and structures: it was a way of making sure that chunk of their populace was both kept fed (their "wages" generally came in the form of fresh vegetables) and kept busy, and thus less likely to go on some kind of uprising.
In fact trying to maintain large populations of slaves has always been a very tricky undertaking, especially if you're going to treat them poorly. Trying to keep their helots under control often crippled the Spartan military for example

See, you say you're not worried about catapults, but it only has to be able to throw a reasonably sized pebble with about the same force as a human arm. People have died from such impacts before. And if you think they're not capable of building such a catapult, then are they going to be capable of building your pyramids?
Plus the way you're describing them, they seem to be equivalent to modern technology, which means you have to worry about gunpowder. You may not think a tiny catapult will get you, but a tiny artillery piece will be as lethal as any handgun.

Alternatively, if you're relying entirely on them for food, whats stopping them poisoning you? Or just realising they can get into a form of Mutually Assured Destruction where you could smash them to oblivion but doing so will mean you starve to death because now no-one's providing you food. Won't take them long to realise you need them more than they need you.
Seriously though, if they are modern, what is to stop them from launching nukes into his nose while he sleeps? There is only one of him and many of them... LMAO
 

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I would be a benevolent god. Wouldn't try to rule them or punish them. I would leave them in peace. I would only try to help them and them things that they need or help them build stuff. Basically I'd treat them as I treat real ants. When I was a kid I used to bring food closer to ants so they wouldn't have to travel far and risk being stomped on by humans.

jakeyjakey said:
Rather, I'm generally considered to be an all-around great guy by friends and coworkers.
Tell them this story and witness their opinion change in front of your eyes.
 

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Palindromemordnilap said:
Actually, common misconception but the pyramids were not built by slaves. Construction was done by farmers hired during the dry season, since they were out of work until the Nile next flooded and they could get back to farming. I've actually seen it suggested that this might be why Egypt ended up with so many colossal buildings and structures: it was a way of making sure that chunk of their populace was both kept fed (their "wages" generally came in the form of fresh vegetables) and kept busy, and thus less likely to go on some kind of uprising.
You see similar building projects in other parts of the world, lots of people sitting round between harvests occasionally end up making something that brings in the tourists and UFOlogists for millennia. Good return on investment.
 

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jakeyjakey said:
I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
...I question your sense of scale and logistics. If you could crush a school with your foot, then you're talking about people who are smaller than your pinky finger, probably even smaller than a joint on your pinky finger. The Lilliputians of Gulliver's Travels were 1:12 of standard human size, putting the average Lilliputian at roughly 6 inches (15 cm). The way you're talking about it, you seem to be imagining something closer to 1:220, at which point the equivalent of a 6 foot (183 cm) alien would stand at a mere 0.33 inches (0.84 cm). Laying 6 of these people head to foot would give you about one French Fry's worth of volume. And you expect that these people would be able to produce enough food to sustain you?
 

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jakeyjakey said:
But being idolized and worshiped would be the best part of being a god. Having people kneel at your feet and offer you gifts would be awesome.
The egomaniacal side of me agrees. The rational one doesn't.
 

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Hey, I got a pretty needy ego, but even I don't see the point in the empty adoration of a bunch of ants. Who cares if they pray to me? What are they going to do for me? Nada.

Now, if you talk about domination over a bunch of regular size people, eh. I still don't know how fulfilling unearned praise would be. Probably not much. I'd just use them to fulfill my ideal life: cabin in the mountains, supply of good food and liquor, hammock in the front, jacuzzi in the back. Good dog and a wife I love. Once I got that, which isn't all that much cosmologically speaking (I honestly can't fathom how anybody could want more, maybe different but not more), I'd leave them to govern themselves. Maybe say every once in a while to be nice to each other.

I'd be the best god.
 

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Asita said:
jakeyjakey said:
I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
...I question your sense of scale and logistics. If you could crush a school with your foot, then you're talking about people who are smaller than your pinky finger, probably even smaller than a joint on your pinky finger. The Lilliputians of Gulliver's Travels were 1:12 of standard human size, putting the average Lilliputian at roughly 6 inches (15 cm). The way you're talking about it, you seem to be imagining something closer to 1:220, at which point the equivalent of a 6 foot (183 cm) alien would stand at a mere 0.33 inches (0.84 cm). Laying 6 of these people head to foot would give you about one French Fry's worth of volume. And you expect that these people would be able to produce enough food to sustain you?
Well, in that case, they have other uses. I would have them march up and down my shaft until I ejaculate. >:) If they were really tiny maybe they can adopt my spermatozoa as sacred pets. Also I run competitively so my feet and running shoes almost always stink. An army of tiny slaves to rake up my foot crud and remove debris and corpses that accumulate on my sneaker treads would be nice.
 

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jakeyjakey said:
Asita said:
jakeyjakey said:
I used the pyramids as an example of what can be accomplished through cooperation (or in the case of the Egyptians, coercion). I wouldn't want pyramids. Also I can't imagine a rock from a catapult built by ant-sized lifeforms being posing much of a threat. It would be like a pea.

However, with a strong collective effort they should be able to cultivate enough food for me and eventually construct giant-sized amenities. I'm sure that my planting a massive foot on one of their schools or densely populated residential areas would provide motivation.
...I question your sense of scale and logistics. If you could crush a school with your foot, then you're talking about people who are smaller than your pinky finger, probably even smaller than a joint on your pinky finger. The Lilliputians of Gulliver's Travels were 1:12 of standard human size, putting the average Lilliputian at roughly 6 inches (15 cm). The way you're talking about it, you seem to be imagining something closer to 1:220, at which point the equivalent of a 6 foot (183 cm) alien would stand at a mere 0.33 inches (0.84 cm). Laying 6 of these people head to foot would give you about one French Fry's worth of volume. And you expect that these people would be able to produce enough food to sustain you?
Well, in that case, they have other uses. I would have them march up and down my shaft until I ejaculate. >:) If they were really tiny maybe they can adopt my spermatozoa as sacred pets. Also I run competitively so my feet and running shoes almost always stink. An army of tiny slaves to rake up my foot crud and remove debris and corpses that accumulate on my sneaker treads would be nice.
You know, it's considered polite to keep one's fetishes to themselves.
 

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Who knows, maybe we've all been gods to a tiny race of beings, but squandered it by being completely oblivious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfQ0EEz5m4U