Because they were all killed? That's why in Halo 1-3 there were basically no spartans left, because they all died on Reach.rh1006 said:thats what i was wondering, and SPOILERS, in lone wolf, why are there a bunch of spartan bodies?
Nope in hasley journal it says he lived.Judgement101 said:He died also. (I don't know just guessing)
You would not believe how often I see this topic. Especially since I've been vising the Bungie.net forums when this place get's too slow.Judgement101 said:He died also. (I don't know just guessing)
This is also another argument I hear a lot and should probably point out that the Books aren't Canon. Bungie has in fact been rewriting the Fall of Reach book and has even released that when it comes to the story of the Halo universe, the Game's are considered the be canon over the books. I'm surprised you didn't bring up the biggest mistakes such as Cortana's creation and the fact that the Pillar of Autumn is on the Surface rather then in Orbit.Dectomax said:Noble team where Spartan III's. Read Ghosts of Onyx. THE STORYLINE IS MESSED UP.
SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On a serious note, I believe him to be dead. In one of the books ( Can't remember off the top of my head ) Halsey meet's with a team of Spartan II's, with no mention of Jun. This is after Reach.
Also, Halsey shouldn't even know about the III's, because again, she didn't find out about them till Ghosts of Onyx. The Spartan III program was commissioned by Colonel Ackerson[sp] in secret by Oni.
READ GHOSTS OF ONYX.
In terms of canon, game overules books. ( Since that was the starting product. ) So, maybe they just decided to kill basic halo canon, which many people related too?
Either way, the Spartan III's should be around 11 or in carters case, 17. Meaning the "Hardcore" Saviours of Reach are still kids.
I may have made a few mistakes, it's 3:28am, so I don't really know what I'm typing to be fair.
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I do not consider Halo: Reach canon, as it royalies screws Halo canon in every possible way. Neither is halo wars.mattttherman3 said:Since the games are canon, well, that means that he is alive somewhere, as are those 3 spartans that are on Spirit of Fire.
By the way, is Master Chief basicly the leader of the Spartans?
EDIT: Well I was just thinking, since spirit of fire is lost, maybe they could put them where the chief is at some point and then they pick him up or something![]()
The entire crew is in Cryo Sleep dude, they probably won't be able to pick him up unless someone finds them first.mattttherman3 said:Since the games are canon, well, that means that he is alive somewhere, as are those 3 spartans that are on Spirit of Fire.
By the way, is Master Chief basicly the leader of the Spartans?
EDIT: Well I was just thinking, since spirit of fire is lost, maybe they could put them where the chief is at some point and then they pick him up or something![]()
Reach is Canon though. Not sure about Wars, but Bungie has said over and over again, the Game Canon trumps those of the books. Bungie has even announced that they will release a rewritten version of the Fall of Reach to make sense. I don't understand how the Developers' game, the same developers who made the universe to begin with, can't be considered canon.awsome117 said:I do not consider Halo: Reach canon, as it royalies screws Halo canon in every possible way. Neither is halo wars.mattttherman3 said:Since the games are canon, well, that means that he is alive somewhere, as are those 3 spartans that are on Spirit of Fire.
By the way, is Master Chief basicly the leader of the Spartans?
EDIT: Well I was just thinking, since spirit of fire is lost, maybe they could put them where the chief is at some point and then they pick him up or something![]()
John-117 "master chief" is the leader of the spartans, but is not the best. Just "lucky".
More than likely, Jun is with Hasley though.
Also, never consider Halo Wars or Reach canon. EVER. (sorry if that sounds mean btw)
RazaxWoot said:I was just wondering, in reach, you see all noble team die except jun, what happened to him??
Yeah, what's up with that? Cortana was created long before Reach fell, and isn't there some sort of problem with building ships meant for outer space in atmosphere? Although they already had the Forward Unto Dawn land in atmo, so I guess this shouldn't be surprising, but shouldn't the Pillar of Autumn have been prepping for a mission into Covenant territory to, if I remember correctly, either steal a ship or capture a prophet? A mission that included John and the rest of Blue Team? If I remember correctly, the Autumn stayed in orbit to help with the battle going on to defend the orbital MAC platforms, which the Covenant tried to disable by landing and attacking the generators that power them.maddawg IAJI said:I'm surprised you didn't bring up the biggest mistakes such as Cortana's creation and the fact that the Pillar of Autumn is on the Surface rather then in Orbit.
Like I said on Bungie.net, they couldn't make the ending very climatic without making some differences.gamerguyal said:Yeah, what's up with that? Cortana was created long before Reach fell, and isn't there some sort of problem with building ships meant for outer space in atmosphere? Although they already had the Forward Unto Dawn land in atmo, so I guess this shouldn't be surprising, but shouldn't the Pillar of Autumn have been prepping for a mission into Covenant territory to, if I remember correctly, either steal a ship or capture a prophet? A mission that included John and the rest of Blue Team? If I remember correctly, the Autumn stayed in orbit to help with the battle going on to defend the orbital MAC platforms, which the Covenant tried to disable by landing and attacking the generators that power them.maddawg IAJI said:I'm surprised you didn't bring up the biggest mistakes such as Cortana's creation and the fact that the Pillar of Autumn is on the Surface rather then in Orbit.
So are they going to say that all of the novels aren't canon now? Or maybe the ones written by Joseph Staten are canon because he works for Bungie, but the rest aren't because Eric Nylund and others don't? But didn't Bungie work with these authors to help them "get their facts straight"?