Realism in video games?

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Twilight_guy

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I dunno. Maybe they just want something to complain about. Maybe being more realistic makes it "better". personally I see a laundry list of mechanics so "realism" for me is all about manipulating the inclusion of items to support game mechanics while still making it more "real".
 

Sonicron

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Sebobii said:
Sonicron said:
It's the same old song I've been singing for years: Any developer who prides themselves on creating a realistic game instantly loses favor with me. I get enough realism every day - you know, in the real world; When I turn on my console or PC, I do so because I want a short break from realism. Swinging across town in red-and-blue spandex in a mediocre Spider-Man game is infinitely more enjoyable to me than watching realistic torture scenes in Black Ops.
Torture is something you get every day? Huh... That's odd...
Ha Ha, my sides. The point is, what I see in games such as Call of Duty, Medal of Honor etc are things that can happen in the real world. A guy with the powers of a spider swinging through a city on organic webbing, not so much.
 

MrJKapowey

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Dr. McD said:
Now that my rant is over, another advantage of realism is that it can help balance a game, like bullet physics in the Battlefield games helping to cut down on snipers camping.
I don't think it's working that well...

OT: I generally think of it as a bit of realism for difficulty, 'cause even the most realistic game I've played (OF: DR) is pretty unrealistic in some cases. At one point I was 50 meters from a patrol flashing my tac-light at them and they did nothing.

Realism is just another difficulty setting encouraging tactical play.
 

maturin

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Sonicron said:
Ha Ha, my sides. The point is, what I see in games such as Call of Duty, Medal of Honor etc are things that can happen in the real world.
Medal of Honor, maybe, haven't played it. MW2 and Black Ops, unadulterated fantasy. There's barely an accurately-depicted piece of equipment in either game, and that's the easy part.
 

coheedswicked

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I think a sense of realism has an immersive effect and thats why realistic elements are implemented in games. Realism itself though isn't something most people actually like which is why simulation games like ArmA II don't sell nearly as well as those that are unrealistic but with realistic elements like Call of Duty.
 

MattyDienhoff

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This argument is really tiresome for me. I see it all the time. Realism isn't automatically bad for games, nor is it automatically good, it's just a concept, and it does have its place. Many games benefit from some realistic elements, especially if they seek to immerse the player in a world similar to our own.

No game strives to be completely realistic, but some are grounded in reality by design and the general rule of such 'semi-realistic' games is that things are realistic unless there's a good reason they shouldn't be. Where exactly that line is drawn depends on the game.

Let's use Grand Theft Auto IV as an example, since people often either praise or complain about its shift towards realism (compared to San Andreas' silliness, at least). It's not realistic that Niko Bellic routinely survives being shot dozens of times, but it is that way because otherwise the game would be very difficult to play unless it was built from the ground up with a tactical shooter's gameplay in mind. This is an acceptable compromise in an action game.

There's also a fine line between something being unrealistic and something being totally ridiculous and unbelievable. The fact that Niko can fly through the windscreen of a car and hit a solid object at speed with a sickening crack, yet suffer no broken bones or internal injuries, is unrealistic; but nowhere near as unrealistic as having the ability to leap off of a 50 story building and only lose 15 points of body armor when you land... that's seriously how it works in GTA: Vice City.

So obviously, while GTA IV does strive to come across as immersive, believable and somewhat realistic, it's still an action game and its gameplay is designed with this in mind. It's not a tactical shooter, it's not a simulation, and it's not trying to be. GTA IV wasn't designed to be as realistic as possible, but to be realistic unless there's a good reason not to be. One of GTA IV's main selling points is its gritty and immersive atmosphere, and a lot of the conventions of the older games really do contradict that. Chainsaw rampages, smacking people in the face with dildos, tanks churning up city streets going after a lone criminal, and so on.

KingofallCosmos said:
You want realism? look out the window. Here you have the chance to create a world of your own and people want realism? Same goes for movies, books. etc.
There are degrees of realism, you know. Not even a simulation like ArmA 2 is honestly trying to be as realistic as possible, because that's not possible. Realism is a means to an end, not the end.
 

GiantRaven

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All these posts and not one mention of the Stalker series? Now those are games that are absolute bastards to you in the name of 'realism'.
 

Tsaba

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bussinrounds said:
Arma2's depth and complexity alienates itself from most of people, in much the same way an old school p&p d&d game does.

You don't just pick up and play these types of games without putting the time in to learn them first.

It's funny the some of the things that make them so great, are also the things that drive most people away from them.
not to mention it's just good fun
 

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KingofallCosmos said:
You want realism? look out the window. Here you have the chance to create a world of your own and people want realism? Same goes for movies, books. etc.
Usually is more colourful too. :p
 

Tsaba

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bussinrounds said:
Holy shit !! Imagine seeing that thing coming at you on the horizon.
Yes imagine it coming over the horizon..... what would it look like......
 

Giantpanda602

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KingofallCosmos said:
You want realism? look out the window. Here you have the chance to create a world of your own and people want realism? Same goes for movies, books. etc.
Yea, but I can't go around shooting people I disagree with in the real world (without major consequences). Sometimes I want something to feel real so I act like I'm somebody else.

I want realism in a certain way. I want to be able to point a gun at somebody in Fallout and tell them to get on the ground and give me their money without them pulling out a gun and attacking me. That doesn't happen in real life. In real life, you get on the ground and give the guy with the gun out your money.