I think a lot of times people confuse good graphics with realism. They don't have to be the same thing.
realistic games. to much to ask for?
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I registered 'sport' as 'activity' in my head. Would Pokemon Battling really be considered a sport, anyway? It might be on the level of dogfighting or something, but if it was something that could be socially recognized as acceptable, the Olympics would be a bit more interesting.
I think games shouldent have to mutch "real" other wise its just another war film but if you want a balace between sci-fi and "real" that I think just plain shouldent happen, valve tryed that with the first Half-Life and failed misribly. so I say keep keep games where you get shot,stabbed,burned,(insert gorey thing) and others any where and still stay standing as long as youv still got health in the bar.
I also thing realism should be exempt from games because there suposed to be an escape from reality not another window to watch it from.
I also thing realism should be exempt from games because there suposed to be an escape from reality not another window to watch it from.
In real life it probably would be considered along the lines of dog fighting and if it weren't then PETA would be doing everything in their power to outlaw it.Nilix post=9.68376.629083 said:
Of course there would be a market for extreme realism in games, there is one in movies afterall. Why else would people go and see Saving Private Ryan as opposed to Die Hard?kiltmanfortywo post=9.68376.626890 said:
Sometimes I don't care how fun a game is, I want the raw emotion and storytellying. Honestly is turn based fighting random monster attacks fun? Hell no! But Final Fantasy X kicks ass anyway. I would love a game that actually made scream out FUCK when my best mate Johnny's head gets blown off by a Nazi, notice a piece of shrapnel in my left ankle and be forced to crawl through disgusting blood soaked dirt and over corpses to find a small piece of cover and pray to God that they don't decide to throw a grenade at the small rock that I'm bleeding to death behind. You're probably thinking, wow you're a sicko if you'd enjoy that but the thing is, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to enjoy it, I just want the emotion conveyed.
Bring on the 'hyper realism', bring on the FPS where you don't shoot anyone (Jarhead style) as long as they properly convey emotion, I want them.
you would think so but its all based around strategy. like a paintball match (i play every second weekend) even if you have no clue what the level is like its very easy to get lots of kills with minimal effort as long as you use the use of tactics which would make it a Tactical Shooter. Dont all run at once from the words tactical shooter, These two words dont mean that the game isnt fun, it means that it takes actually more skill then run and gun games that most are use to. And if you dont think that tactical shooters arent fun im not going to beat the living piss out of you to make you think otherwise. but maybe to your suprise and possibly disgust there is living breathing people out that enjoy using there brain to an extent of fun.
-dont go babbling on about how paintball isint real. i was just using it as an analogy
-dont go babbling on about how paintball isint real. i was just using it as an analogy
A more realistic FPS is wot they're trying to do, but some of them are just rubbish and start to get reli samey, but some are awesome - CoD4 was pretty realistic, in it's own way. However more realistic games can be awful, like the early Burnout games - but when they introduced the massive crashes and it was awesome.
I reli want a good realistic FPS, but that would have to mean to would be easy to be killed and therefore less enemies and it would be reli easy
I reli want a good realistic FPS, but that would have to mean to would be easy to be killed and therefore less enemies and it would be reli easy
Real funny you should say that as the exact same thing happened when they first demoed STALKER Clear Sky. No one not even the developers were able to kill more than three of the four bandits in the demo.Samirat post=9.68376.629141 said:
While I do like the idea of having a game where I can shoot someone in the leg and slow them down, follow the blood trail, and execute them after they lose consciousness from blood loss, I'd rather not be on the getting-shot end. If you want a truly realistic game, that injury would cripple you for a while. So the question is, how realistic are you talking here?
Ah. I spent most of my time on 1.3 with 506th PIR, and they went completely Source shortly after I retired. Realism was some good times, especially once the server monkeys figured out how to make it impossible to tell for sure if you killed someone.derpa post=9.68376.629024 said:
I think people are thinking about this realism thing wrong. Yes, in an extremely realistic game, you can die in one shot anywhere but maybe your arm or leg. A small caliber weapon to the chest might be survivable. But your enemies are like this, too. This, to me, is what makes "hyper-realism" fun. You have to take advantage of your environment. The fight is tense. One wrong move, one extra second outside of cover, and hot lead might make a home out of your right lung. This gives rise to ambush tactics. The kind of tactics you see in movies, where X jumps out from a corner real quick and pops Y in the head. Normally, you see it in slow-mo, but in an HR game, it wouldn't be.
Of course, if everyone is just waiting to ambush someone, no one will ever do anything, right? Well, someone eventually has to move. NPCs would move eventually. If something happens and a gunfight ends up going down, then there's a gunfight. Gunfights in a game like this would be scary as hell, just like in reality.
Now we get to the "but reality sucks, games aren't meant to be like real life" part. No games are meant to be like real life? Why not? Games are a form of escapism? Why do all games have to be an escape? Some people seriously like gritty realism in their media (me included). Saying that games aren't meant to be like real life is like saying that games aren't meant to have real time strategy. Not all games are meant to have it, but some are.
Why does every genre in gaming have to be a sub-form of "escapist fantasy"?
Of course, if everyone is just waiting to ambush someone, no one will ever do anything, right? Well, someone eventually has to move. NPCs would move eventually. If something happens and a gunfight ends up going down, then there's a gunfight. Gunfights in a game like this would be scary as hell, just like in reality.
Now we get to the "but reality sucks, games aren't meant to be like real life" part. No games are meant to be like real life? Why not? Games are a form of escapism? Why do all games have to be an escape? Some people seriously like gritty realism in their media (me included). Saying that games aren't meant to be like real life is like saying that games aren't meant to have real time strategy. Not all games are meant to have it, but some are.
Why does every genre in gaming have to be a sub-form of "escapist fantasy"?
@ Everyone claiming there's no market for realistic games:
Did you even read my post? Those games have all done fantastically well (save for OpF 2 because...yanno...it's not out yet).
@ Everyone claiming that realistic games are lame and not fun:
And I think death metal is lame, everyone's tastes are different.
*hangs his kevlar vest and MP5 up and commits seppuku in shame*
They are exactly what you're looking for.
Did you even read my post? Those games have all done fantastically well (save for OpF 2 because...yanno...it's not out yet).
@ Everyone claiming that realistic games are lame and not fun:
And I think death metal is lame, everyone's tastes are different.
Oh fuck how could I totally miss R6: Rvs? That game is still one of my all time favorites.Vortigar said:
*hangs his kevlar vest and MP5 up and commits seppuku in shame*
Do yourself a favor, go back to the first page and check out all of those games I listed, seriously. Ghost Recon 1, Ravenshield, and Operation Flashpoint are budgetware these days. Easily picked up for dirt cheap. ARMA has a really good demo packed with tons of shit to do.
They are exactly what you're looking for.
Ya know, I've always wanted some kind of masochisticly realistic game, I mean, hey if I can't die in the real world then in my eyes it's still 'escapism'.
Still I think putting so much attention to detail actually is too much to ask for nowadays - what with development times and development costs and..demographic issues, and this "make or break" things devs have to worry about..and the costs..and costs...and..costs...
Still I think putting so much attention to detail actually is too much to ask for nowadays - what with development times and development costs and..demographic issues, and this "make or break" things devs have to worry about..and the costs..and costs...and..costs...
