DevilWithaHalo said:
MBergman said:
Why think that people 200 years ago are so much wiser than people now?
I can't comment on others opinions, but I find the idea that they could set aside their differences and create a new country to be quite grand. In the age of enlightenment, the petty squabbles of men and their individual ideologies took a side step to a vision which benefited everyone at the time. Compromise, and the ability to see the larger picture is a wise thing. In today's political world, we are so polarized between two opposites that barely anything get's accomplished outside times of crisis. .
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"In the age of enlightenment, the petty squabbles of men and their individual ideologies took a side step to a vision which benefited everyone."
"I find the idea that they could set aside their differences and create a new country to be quite grand"
Slavery would like to say hi. That vision sure as hell didn't benefit everyone, they didn't set aside their differences, and I would hardly have called it grand when a large portion of the population was treated like dirt because of their skin colour. If america were to go to a third world country, kill all the inhabitants and make a country there, would you think that's cool?
"We can't set aside our differences now"
"Compromise, and the ability to see the larger picture"
What about the little thing known as the war of independence? If australia wanted to break off from england, we wouldn't go to war with them. I don't think having a war counts as compromise.
And anyway, I'd prefer discussion between politicians rather then a full blown war.
I think you don't remember them how they really were. The founding fathers had slaves, were racist, misogynistic. George washington used his fame and money to get sex. They are not the saints that everyone remembers.