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Cuacuani

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ThisIsSnake said:
Wait I thought CCP had the rights to Vampire the masquerade now and were just ignoring it to focus on Dust 514 and EVE Online, basically just using it to sue david heath.

It would be an absurd world where a major corporation stops making the fastest selling game of all time to make one for a relatively small fanbase.

I thought CCP had the rights to Vampire: the Requiem (or actually, the whole of the nWoD) rather than Vampire: the Masquerade?

Either way, I really hope they don't re-do Bloodlines. The game is fine as it is, warts and all. Besides, if everyone just starts band-wagoning Vampire: the Masquerade then how is that any different to Modern Warfare? We'd just get half-baked cashing-in sequels about vampires, rather than half-baked cashing-in sequels about soldiers.
 

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
It has been... dwindling in quality. And by "dwindling," I mean... spiraling downwards.
Nope.
The quality has remained pretty much the same, apart from in the storytelling - which only fluctuates slightly between the intense, mature storytelling of CoD4 and WaW, the balls out FUCK EVERYTHING of MW2 and the very Manchurian Candidate-esque Hollywood thriller narrative of BLOPS.
The multiplayer - despite some basically cosmetic changes - has remained the same.
The gameplay mechanics have remained exactly the same.

The problem is that stagnation of those major elements, and we have become ludicrously overexposed to it. CoD has become far more than a game, its a cultural phenomenon on an incredible scale - and Activision will keep on making it because they know that they have found a formula that has tapped into the basic primal instincts of people that will make them keep on buying their one game over and over and over again.
Its kinda sad really.
 

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I wish people would stop saying it's shit etc. It's going to be good, there hasn't been one which sucked, unless you hate the fact it is Call of Duty. Now don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to Battlefield 3 a lot more, but I'm still gonna' get this, and it will be good.
 

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ok lets say that MW3 is the best game ever and will be a gem for years and years to come (which in my opinon it wont) they wont realese any more single player campains after this because its bloody world war 3! where can you go after WW3? call of duty in space?! (also sorry for my spelling)
 

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Aphex Demon said:
It's going to be good, there hasn't been one which sucked, unless you hate the fact it is Call of Duty.
What if you're into well-delivered narrative and good characters?

I'm just sayin'...
 

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Hobo Steve said:
Loki Cain said:
Hobo Steve said:
Loki Cain said:
Perhaps a revamp of vampire the masquerade.
http://www.bloodlinesresurgence.com/

If only they had more crew to work on it.
They're too busy milking Call of Duty for all its worth witch is a lot.
I am talking about the fan remake not having enough crew. I don't want the douchebags at Activision to remember they even have the IP. They would kill the remake and release some half assed version that would force me to strangle Kotick with his own intestines.
It sucks but I honestly doubt we will ever see another VTMB. Quality writing like that is exceptionally rare and no one will take a chance on it anymore. Or it will be given to hacks who over play the sex angle of it and it will come out a trumped up harlot with no soul and dead eyes...
Ummmmm .... lets forget that it's White Wolf that own all IP concerning Vampire: the Masquerade (in the same way Obsidian and Bioware don't own D&D and they have to seek permission to use their materials and likenesses)....

....Why would they make a Masquerade game when the White Wolf nwod Vampire setting is Requiem...? White Wolf still has the final say on how its materials are used .... and they would likely press the use of a Requiem-setting game.

On topic about a White Wolf pnp turned videogame ... I'd like to see a (faithful) semi-turn based game (like nwn;... sorta ... perhaps more Temple of Elemental Evil maybe...) based on Werewolf: the Forsaken.

Much cooler.
 

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Zaldra said:
ok lets say that MW3 is the best game ever and will be a gem for years and years to come (which in my opinon it wont) they wont realese any more single player campains after this because its bloody world war 3! where can you go after WW3? call of duty in space?! (also sorry for my spelling)
Back to World War 2, i hope.

There is so much unexplored territory there, and it would be great to play through a WWII campaign with the huge set pieces and production values of more recent CoD games.
 

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I say Infinity ward has lost their skill of making Cod games while Treyarch has been making great games all the while (Quantum of Solace, Cod3, Cod WaW, Black Ops, and hopefully more to come!).
 

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ThisIsSnake said:
Wait I thought CCP had the rights to Vampire the masquerade now and were just ignoring it to focus on Dust 514 and EVE Online, basically just using it to sue david heath.

It would be an absurd world where a major corporation stops making the fastest selling game of all time to make one for a relatively small fanbase.
Nope, CCP has the world of darkness franchise which they are making a mmo about.

A horror MMO!
 

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i just wish they would space out the sequels so those of us that dont play 3 hours a day dont lose the levels we took so long to get to in the last installment
 

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Loki Cain said:
ok someones going to bite my head off for this... First off World War 3 really, if World War 3 happens there will be no out right fighting with guns, Its going to be either "BOOM BOOM BOOM World destroyed" (nukes) or "TYPE TYPE TYPE dark ages" (hacking). Second another call of duty really, because its not like they have been milking that series for about 3 years now already. Its the same reason we got a fast and furious 5 and why we are getting a fast and furious 6, The same reason we have so many saw movies, come on Activision Stop with the call of duty and take a chance with something new. Perhaps a revamp of vampire the masquerade.
Except Fast and Furious is undisputedly shite and has been for a while, while the Modern Warfare series is actually pretty decent (Black Ops didn't have a Modern Warfare tag on it and wasn't... well, modern warfare), especially considering it's (first and foremost) a multiplayer game and therefore open to reviewing more as a sport than a piece of art, focusing on updating the game, rather than doing something new. Really, it's no different than an MMO in that respect and I don't think anyone here complained about the release of Cataclysm, yes, it's more of the same, but that's what expected of the genre.

How WW3 would pan out is by no means certain nor is it by any means certain there'd be nukes involved, it's merely what the mass hysteria is about. Chances of leaders being intelligent enough, as they are at the moment, not to use such weaponry, is not at all 0. The all out nuclear war theory states that when one goes off, it'll be a chain reaction and we've seen a nuclear attack in both of the previous titles, without such a reaction, without anyone complaining about it. The depiction of a nuclear attack in the first game was much praised in fact.

Bottom line is, if you don't want it, don't play it. I certainly won't be getting the game, but that's because I'm not into the series. I'll be buying Battlefield 3, despite it being the 9th title in the row or something if you count up all the expansions and the Bad Company series.
 

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Call of Duty is the most milked first person shooter fanchise in recent years. Activision releasing a new one every year limits the life span of each game. They never release any free content packs but rather force you to pay $15 for 5 maps.

As long as they have dedicated servers in this version of Modern Warfare, the lack of them ruined the previous installment (especially for pc)
 

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I'm excited for it because it's one of the few FPS games which offers good local multiplayer, especially since they added bots in BlOps. I only hopped on the CoD bandwagon at MW2 and played the shit out of Spec Ops and played a good bit of three-way FFA locally. Besides, it has good multiplayer when you're in the mood for something a little more fast-paced the Battlefield or Section 8. What can I say? I'm a sucker for anything that offers 4-player local MP
 

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KafkaOffTheBeach said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
It has been... dwindling in quality. And by "dwindling," I mean... spiraling downwards.
Nope.
The quality has remained pretty much the same, apart from in the storytelling - which only fluctuates slightly between the intense, mature storytelling of CoD4 and WaW, the balls out FUCK EVERYTHING of MW2 and the very Manchurian Candidate-esque Hollywood thriller narrative of BLOPS.
The multiplayer - despite some basically cosmetic changes - has remained the same.
The gameplay mechanics have remained exactly the same.

The problem is that stagnation of those major elements, and we have become ludicrously overexposed to it. CoD has become far more than a game, its a cultural phenomenon on an incredible scale - and Activision will keep on making it because they know that they have found a formula that has tapped into the basic primal instincts of people that will make them keep on buying their one game over and over and over again.
Its kinda sad really.
Sorry, the level design and pacing of Black Ops was ridiculously bad compared to Modern Warfare 2, and the level design, pacing, and all around script quality of MW2 was shit compared to World at War and Modern Warfare 1.

That's what I call a spiral. The game used to be a glorious shining example of singleplayer shooters done right, and it sunk very quickly - within three, semi-yearly installments - into a boring, stupid, poorly-written and poorly paced explosion-fest. Whether anyone remembers or not, CoD4 had depth, and breadth, in its singleplayer, and while slight multiplayer increments are all well and good, the singleplayer has taken a buckshot to the kneecaps in the process...

...I still replay CoD4. The multiplayer was amazing, yes, but it was the story and singleplayer that made it more than a fun experiment in switching combat eras. The series has been stagnating - Call of Duty 3 is actually the prime example of this, I say - but it was able to save itself before because it was smart with how it handled its elements.

I get the impression nowadays that there really IS no work put into it, which is less a stagnation of the individual elements themselves, but how those elements are put together. I'm so hoping MW3 bucks the trend - they've had two years on it to refine the formula - but since Activision is probably of the supposed mindset that quality won't even matter to the eventual sales outcome, Infinity Ward probably won't be given a leeway to trim or mold anything to make it more substantial.

But, to your first comment - it hasn't been "the same". It's lacked polish, and if that's truly not enough to differentiate titles, then I don't know what is. Lack of fun, then.
 

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Do we NEED MW3? Probably not, do we NEED video games, probably not, although they are a nice distraction to have
 

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The Stonker said:
ThisIsSnake said:
Wait I thought CCP had the rights to Vampire the masquerade now and were just ignoring it to focus on Dust 514 and EVE Online, basically just using it to sue david heath.

It would be an absurd world where a major corporation stops making the fastest selling game of all time to make one for a relatively small fanbase.
Nope, CCP has the world of darkness franchise which they are making a mmo about.

A horror MMO!
Interesting ... how will they handle torpor I wonder ;D

If this is true .... please, please, please, werewolf setting ...I rant my Rahu Blood Talon.

Strength and Dominance gifts, yes please ;D
 

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I'm sorry, how is a revamp of Vampire the Masquerade even remotely "something new"?

"We need to take a chance with something new. Perhaps a rehash of something that's been done many times before..."
 

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Oh sweet. CoD bashing. That's new. Hmm.

*goes back to having some of the best fun I've ever had playing CoD with friends*

Sorry, what? I couldn't hear you over the sound of how much fun I'm having.

EDIT: This isn't specifically aimed at you OP, but I pretty much entirely agree with this video on people who moan about CoD.

 

Daffy F

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Loki Cain said:
Stop with the call of duty
Wistful thinknig, but this will never happen. Also, World War 3 will never happen. Full stop. Nuclear deterants has made it impossible for the whole world to go to war. It will NEVER happen.