'******'... Really?

[Mozared]

They've been denied all the best ultrasex.

Cookie for whoever gets this..

Dig me now, fuck me later, and sing it to the tune of ******, ******, ******!

To stay on-topic; there's also the difference between 'gays' and 'faggots'. In Dutch they'd be respectively translated to 'homos' and 'nichten'. While 'nicht' would be a degenerating word, some people make a clear difference - I for example would use the word 'nicht' for the stereotype homosexuals who walk around with a handbag and genuinely act like females.

 

[Lamnidae]

I know Mozared...
But 'Fruitcake', Asswipe or Sapiën Inferior are more fun to use...

L33tsauce_Marty is right too...
I'm one of those who uses the word to give off on gays who in my view only gives people more reason to think we're all stupid and are the mainreason in my opinion we homos are dangling on the bottom of societies' foodchain...

And sometimes I say to my friend 'You homo'.
But hey... We're still together after 7 years...

So maybe everyone's right and everyone's wrong...
Why do people call people faggots and why do people feel bad when called one?
Is it so important?

 

[Lightnr]

What I don't get is.

You're a fag, suck my dick.

Like; you just totally contradicted yourself with that statement.

Yet something tells me you like that contradiction................... Have you studied proofs by contradiction in logic? You would like them too.

And you would also see that that is not a contradiction AT ALL. Here is why:
He is calling you a fag - gay in a bad way.
Then he tells you to suck his dick - that would imply that he is gay.
A gay person can call another gay person a fag... He might think you are gay in a bad/dumb way. Or he might think all gays are fags - including himself (self hate). Or he might be bi and enjoy his dick sucked but he is not fully gay - which he thinks is a bad thing.

 

[Lightnr]

You really care that much to have written 5 paragraphs on it?

An example of not contributing to a thread. Do not do this, especially when the mods are actively watching the thread...

Well it does contribute my opinion on the matter.

And that, sir, was mod sass. May the mods haver mercy on your soul, and the hammer swing swift and true.

Yes the first guy might not have contributed.... but the third guy basically just trolled and is causing a conflict for no reason. People who act like that really piss me off.

To get back on topic.... In my mind I have ****** as an insult. Period. Not as an insult to gay people. So when I see some people that piss me off... like the guy threatening people with mod wrath for no reason, and when its not even his prerogative... I would call them faggots... just to insult them. However I would not call a gay person a ****** intending to insult the fact that he is gay - as I believe there is nothing wrong with actually being gay. BUT I do believe there is something wrong with people acting lousy - and I would like to keep having the right to insult people that piss me off with their actions.

Again to reiterate - I know ****** is derogatory for gay people, but I did not learn it as such - so if I were to use it - I use it simply as a general insult.

 

[Agema]

I disagree with your insinuation that the insult's use is entirely based on the fact that it refers to homosexuals. I heard the word used as an insult when I was a child, and I immediately recognized it as such. I didn't find out until years later what a homosexual was, much less that the word also referred to them.

As for your suggestion that all insults are based on unpleasant things, I have to ask why you find twats so unpleasant. I find them to be rather lovely, but I can still recognize the word as an insult when someone uses it to refer to a person.

Do you hate vaginas because you're sexist, or do you resent the use of the f word for more personal reasons that stem from your hatred for female genitalia?

Of course I'm joking, but I find your logic a bit flawed.

You claim all insults are words which refer to things which society views as unpleasant. Words which can refer to (among other things) homosexuals are sometimes used as insults. Therefore society views homosexuals as unpleasant and using these words is an exploitation of that prevailing notion.

In that same paragraph, however, you include a reference to female genitalia as something society views as overwhelmingly unpleasant. It's been my observation that most males usually spend a considerable portion of their time trying to get as close to a set of female genitalia as they possibly can.

I did explicitly say that people could use insults without knowing what the root of the word was. You've not paid attention to the entire thrust of my argument, that such an insult is not necessarily an indicator of prejudice in an specific individual, but its original basis and popularisation are based on some people's attitudes. The simple fact is that insults are rooted in terms that people believe (or believed, as they are often historical) have negative associations.

Next, more strictly, I said references to genitalia were crude. It's a little tedious of you to bait me, but if it'll clear up the cheap mockery, the same applies to "dick" as much to "twat".

Besides, the words are still unpleasant to some degree. Less so nowadays but much more historically, polite society avoided mention of genitalia and either waste extraction or reproductive functions of them, hence all those pompously delicate names for toilets (little boys room, powder room, water closet, etc.) It also ties in with old-style societal morals having distaste for sexuality, and the dirtiness of urinating and defecating. Calling someone by these sorts of terms was and is designed to associate them with those negatively-perceived functions - for instance consider that saying someone "thinks with their dick" is manifestly not a compliment, much as sex is enjoyable and some people like to have screwed a lot of others.

 

[Kinguendo]

Fag.
American definition: Insult, meaning homosexual.
British definition: A cigarette.

******.
American definition: Insult, meaning homosexual.
British definition: A log of firewood.

Everything's better in British (except health-insurance, gay-rights and the legal justice system).

Wait... are you joking about that health-insurance(I think you just mean Health care as we have the universal kind.), gay rights and legal justice comment?

It really seems like a joke.

 

[FallenJellyDoughnut]

Spoiler

''A ****** is a kind of meatball. Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK,[1][2] especially the Midlands of England.[3][4][5] It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork.[3] A ****** is traditionally made from pig's heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs. The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.''

Source, Wikipedia.

All i've ever known a ****** to be really.

Ew... Reminds me of Black Pudding (ei. the worst food ever to come from anywhere ever)

 

[TheSeventhLoneWolf]

Spoiler

''A ****** is a kind of meatball. Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK,[1][2] especially the Midlands of England.[3][4][5] It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork.[3] A ****** is traditionally made from pig's heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs. The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.''

Source, Wikipedia.

All i've ever known a ****** to be really.

Ew... Reminds me of Black Pudding (ei. the worst food ever to come from anywhere ever)

Ja. Though black pudding sounds like a cake or something, therefore, more misleading than the ******.

 

[Goldeneye1989]

-snip-

IIf you watch the South park Episode "the F-word" it says why ****** is used really, as it's a very brutish set of words, with the g's and the O's as, Douche or asshole seem to come of smoothly yet there is nothing smooth about ******, as it just seems to impact more.

and thats why ui think it's used so much not to prejudice gays, but because it's just a brutish sounding word....

 

[DoW Lowen]

People have to understand that language is constructed, meanings are arbitrary to the intent. One person calling a person a "fag" may mean homosexual, another may mean dick head. Though the meaning is connotative to homosexuality, it use to mean a bundle of sticks and occult use to mean hidden as opposed to devil. You can judge the meaning of the word contextually - if a person uses over xbox live than it would probably mean "weakling" or "noob" more than "i am implying your homosexual".

 

[Goldeneye1989]

Somebody's read EA Poe's The Philosophy of Composition...

Actually, no, the most recent thing i have read is the bloodbowl rulebook and im still confused, i do however study psychology/counselling and you have to really pay attention to smaller things. and it kinda makes sence, although thankyou for attributing me for inteligence

 

[Bernzz]

I'm noticing that around where I live, '******' is losing its impact somewhat (except for amongst the stupid people). I can only hope it continues to go down the same path as 'damn' or 'sod', and in other places as well, so I never have to hear the barbaric word again.

Where I'm from, sod has enjoyed a recent popularity boost. As a joke insult. All because my Chemistry teacher uses it because he can't swear in class. Even though he does that on occasion.

He's awesome.

 

[wooty]

calling anyone else a '******.'

The word "*****" is far too overused in online gaming aswell, so much in fact that it now has no relevance as a word to me

 

[Yumi_and_Erea]

Fag.
American definition: Insult, meaning homosexual.
British definition: A cigarette.

******.
American definition: Insult, meaning homosexual.
British definition: A log of firewood.

Everything's better in British (except health-insurance, gay-rights and the legal justice system).

Wait... are you joking about that health-insurance(I think you just mean Health care as we have the universal kind.), gay rights and legal justice comment?

It really seems like a joke.

Your health-insurance is indeed universal, which I applaud, but occasionally, people can still get fucked over by it (friend of mine broke a leg, never got any compensation).

I am however DEAD-SERIOUS about the gay-rights and legal justice thing.

If you want to know why I hate the British legal justice system, you need only use the Escapist Search-bar, and look for the recent thread about the guy who's now facing jail-time for HANDING IN a shotgun he found by the side of the road.

It's an extreme but by no means the only example of an instance where the British legal justice is system is stuck up it's own ass.

Also, in regards to the gay-rights thing, that's not so much Britain as a whole as it is the British National Party, whom I consider to be the biggest, most racist, sexist and generally hatefull and repulsive piece of crap to ever be shat out by civilization.

Apart from that though, I like Brittain a lot, honestly.

 

[Kinguendo]

Your health-insurance is indeed universal, which I applaud, but occasionally, people can still get fucked over by it (friend of mine broke a leg, never got any compensation).

I am however DEAD-SERIOUS about the gay-rights and legal justice thing.

If you want to know why I hate the British legal justice system, you need only use the Escapist Search-bar, and look for the recent thread about the guy who's now facing jail-time for HANDING IN a shotgun he found by the side of the road.

It's an extreme but by no means the only example of an instance where the British legal justice is system is stuck up it's own ass.

Also, in regards to the gay-rights thing, that's not so much Britain as a whole as it is the British National Party, whom I consider to be the biggest, most racist, sexist and generally hatefull and repulsive piece of crap to ever be shat out by civilization.

Apart from that though, I like Brittain a lot, honestly.

Him not getting compensation has nothing to do with the NHS... unless they broke his leg.

Yeah, every single legal system in the world does stupid things like this and much worse... the TV presenter on death row for "witchcraft", the banning of ALL marriage in an attempt to ban gay marriage in Texas, etc.

Yeah, the BNP arent in power... they have no say on the rights of gay people... what you are protesting is a right-wing groups thoughts... which is fine except you are using that to criticise the country they are based, that is not justified.

Also, there is only 1 "t" in Britain.

 

[Yumi_and_Erea]

Your health-insurance is indeed universal, which I applaud, but occasionally, people can still get fucked over by it (friend of mine broke a leg, never got any compensation).

I am however DEAD-SERIOUS about the gay-rights and legal justice thing.

If you want to know why I hate the British legal justice system, you need only use the Escapist Search-bar, and look for the recent thread about the guy who's now facing jail-time for HANDING IN a shotgun he found by the side of the road.

It's an extreme but by no means the only example of an instance where the British legal justice is system is stuck up it's own ass.

Also, in regards to the gay-rights thing, that's not so much Britain as a whole as it is the British National Party, whom I consider to be the biggest, most racist, sexist and generally hatefull and repulsive piece of crap to ever be shat out by civilization.

Apart from that though, I like Brittain a lot, honestly.

Him not getting compensation has nothing to do with the NHS... unless they broke his leg.

Yeah, every single legal system in the world does stupid things like this and much worse... the TV presenter on death row for "witchcraft", the banning of ALL marriage in an attempt to ban gay marriage in Texas, etc.

Yeah, the BNP arent in power... they have no say on the rights of gay people... what you are protesting is a right-wing groups thoughts... which is fine except you are using that to criticise the country they are based, that is not justified.

Also, there is only 1 "t" in Britain.

My apologies, both for my spelling and my ranting.

I really, honestly like Britain, I've spent several years there.
I'm just saying, there are some things about it that I hate, and the BNP is one of them.

But when I remember things like The Beatles, Sean Connery, Ade Edmondson and Rik Mayal and Desmond Morris, I remember why I like Britain:

Because it fucking kicks ass.

 

[orangebandguy]

It sounds guttural and harsh in the way it's pronounced. And plus little kids should not be allowed to play online games. It's alright for our generation because we've done so and learned and the fact is that we're better.

[sub]I sound like an old man.[/sub]