'******'... Really?

[Kinguendo]

My apologies, both for my spelling and my ranting.

I really, honestly like Britain, I've spent several years there.
I'm just saying, there are some things about it that I hate, and the BNP is one of them.

But when I remember things like The Beatles, Sean Connery, Ade Edmondson and Rik Mayal and Desmond Morris, I remember why I like Britain:

Because it fucking kicks ass.

Honestly, I dont care whether anyone likes or dislikes Britain... I am not going to take offence on behalf of a big rock.

I prefer people to be informed of the facts.

 

[Beastialman]

I think ****** is a really funny sounding word. I usually play along with the insult.

Guy: Dude you're a ******!

Me: Yeah, what about it?

Guy: Holy God you're a queer? God what the hell is wrong with you?

Me: Well mate, I'm glad to see you haven't caught up with the human norm of acceptance and tolerance, I guess you also like to hang the culturally difference and trip blind people.

Guy:...

Or I just use really creative/disturbing insults, it's all really fun.

 

[LeonLethality]

I prefer to call people "crusty botches of nature" but some people don't understand what it means... although I am tired of being called a ****** because I killed someone on an online game, I thought killing was manly!

 

[teisjm]

"******" or just "fag" refers to loud annoying people on harley davidson bikes, it has an impact cause no-one owuld wanna be associated with them.

 

[Valkatron]

Sorry mate, I was using it in an example and wasn't thinking

All good, didn't mean i dislike it in discussions like this, more in the way every man and his dog are saying it on the street and online. It really gets my goat!

 

[Sven und EIN HUND]

Spoiler

''A ****** is a kind of meatball. Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK,[1][2] especially the Midlands of England.[3][4][5] It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork.[3] A ****** is traditionally made from pig's heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs. The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.''

Source, Wikipedia.


All i've ever known a ****** to be really.

I thought it was a pile of sticks? Eh, guess not

 

[Xshu]

No, it's not. The point of an insult is to anger or embarass someone. That's the idea. Underlying social currents don't matter. One person is saying something to another person, intending to cause anger. ****** is not a special, magical word.

Well sure that's the point of "an insult" in the same sense that the point of "food" is to fill you up, but try eating nothing but bread for the rest of your life and you'll find yourself eating bread for a relatively short period of time. In the same way that you get different things from oranges than you do from bread, you get something different from some insults when compared to others. Calling someone a pig, for example, implies gluttony or overweightness.

The point of the insult ****** when applied to non-gays is to insult a person's masculinity because gay men are not perceived as masculine. When a person is called an asshole, a dickhead, or a ************, the implication is quite different from when a person is called a ******. The first three imply some level of unpleasantness on the party of the accused, while the second implies incompetence or unworthiness likely related to the fact that when the word "******" is directed toward gays it is meant to make them feel as though simply being themselves makes them inferior. An "asshole" is often just a jerk. Calling someone a "******", on the other hand, has a whole other set of implications.

 

[PhiMed]

I did explicitly say that people could use insults without knowing what the root of the word was. You've not paid attention to the entire thrust of my argument, that such an insult is not necessarily an indicator of prejudice in an specific individual, but its original basis and popularisation are based on some people's attitudes. The simple fact is that insults are rooted in terms that people believe (or believed, as they are often historical) have negative associations.

Next, more strictly, I said references to genitalia were crude. It's a little tedious of you to bait me, but if it'll clear up the cheap mockery, the same applies to "dick" as much to "twat".

Besides, the words are still unpleasant to some degree. Less so nowadays but much more historically, polite society avoided mention of genitalia and either waste extraction or reproductive functions of them, hence all those pompously delicate names for toilets (little boys room, powder room, water closet, etc.) It also ties in with old-style societal morals having distaste for sexuality, and the dirtiness of urinating and defecating. Calling someone by these sorts of terms was and is designed to associate them with those negatively-perceived functions - for instance consider that saying someone "thinks with their dick" is manifestly not a compliment, much as sex is enjoyable and some people like to have screwed a lot of others.

You're correct in calling me out as a smart-ass, so I'll use a more appropriate analogy. Children being born to unwed mothers is much more accepted than it was in the past, and many would argue that there is little if any stigma placed on these children today. The word bastard, however, is still undeniably an insult. Today, the insult of this word bears little, if any relation, to its meaning as a slur against illegitimacy. Is it not possible that the f word is undergoing the same transformation?