Rebecca Mayes Muses: Love Song for Yahtzee

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cynik

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According to my rough calculations 90% of users posting in this thread didn't bother to read it, I'm having a feeling that there are three botnets around here posting three generic replies over and over again.

Botnet no.1 says "aw fuck, teh song sucks balls" while thinking "omg, i'm almost like Yahtzee"

Botnet no.2 says some incomprehensible poetic blabber about wonderful thoughts and feelings it felt during the song. In reality it thinks "maybe she'll notice me, think we're soulmates and I might shag her".

Botnet no.3 says "haha, good one, FTW" and thinks nothing.

Interesting sociological case I say.
 

Riven Armor

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PeppersResort said:
Thought the lyrics were awkward, title was puzzling, but what disturbs me most are the clueless or mystified comments from the audience... maybe I'm just too old... but no.
LOL. I agree completely...

"I thought it was a clever combination of love and hate" please...

To be clever it would have to make sense.
 

Miss_Suzumiya

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It's alright... It seemed to stray slightly out of a love song and into a... a... I dunno what XD
Good though :3
 

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Do you seriously think that the majority of world homophobes are American? Try being gay in Uganda or rural China, or anywhere in the middle east for that matter. Outside of the west, homophobia is the rule, not the exception. (Note that I am not endorsing homophobia, merely pointing out that your perspective on the US & England is myopic at best.)
 

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trying to write for your fans is pointless, as yahtzee pointed out

some fans will love your current style, and hate you if you try to change anything, like AFI and greenday fans when they moved away from their original sound

and than there are fans like these who will berate you when you dont change up your sound

the moral of the story is you cant win when youre trying to please other people- so only please yourself

ironically, for yahtzee, this might lead to masturbation in place of a sex life. so maybe try not to apply this philosophy to the field of romance and lovemakin'.
 

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What a lot of people seem to dwell on is whether or not this video has a positive opinion of Yahtzee's antics. I, however, see the fluctuation of the mood and tone of the song to symbolize the actual feeling of watching a Zero Punctuation.

To explain, Yahtzee usually switches between positive and negative traits of games that he reviews, so much so that it can be difficult to tell whether or not it is a recommendation at the end. That's exactly what Rebecca's got going here. It may be a tribute, but it's no ass-patting extravaganza.
 

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Boyninja616 said:
Pandageddon said:
Kratos' sexuality was pretty well defined in God of War 3 when you got him to bang Aphrodite in a mini-game :p

But aside from that I think Kratos is a perfect example of a character who could potentially be gay! I live in a city with a huge gay scene and I see chaps that could pass for Kratos walking arm in arm with their boyfriends all the time. Also, he's an ancient Greek, and they were quite accepting of homosexuality. Being gay shouldn't automatically equate to "fop".

Religion is certainly a big reason why some people are homophobic, but there are also plenty of non-religious people out there who just plain hate gay people, too.'Gay' or 'fag' seem to be catch-all insults in some gaming communities. Even though WoW players don't represent all gamers, it is still a huge and very visible community.

Going back to your other post, I appreciate that Rebbecca wasn't singing some kind of feminist manifesto. But she did call Yahzee misogynistic, which is a pretty unpleasant thing to be accused of. I think if you're going to use that word it should be at a truly deserving target. You mentioned that you thought Yahzee tended to come down harder on female protagonists than male ones- might that be because those characters have been particularly badly realised? As you pointed out, mainstream games are mainly aimed at guys- but they're also overwhelmingly made by men too. In Bayonetta's case, it was made by men who appear to have only observed women from a very great distance :p. I've seen Yahzee reviewing games with female characters on them where he hasn't ragged on them purely for being female.
Fair enough. I haven't actually played God of War 3, so I wasn't aware of that. Still, it took until the third game to realise that feature and it only seems to happen once.

I can only see Kratos as a kind of Carry-On style camp, talking about his "Flailing weapon" at times. In England we don't have quite so much of a gay scene, and we certainly don't have men with biceps wider than their heads, so it would be hard for me to make the same comparison. I am aware of the Greek's tendencies towards homosexuality, but still maintain the point that being a divine entity does mean being detached from normal human activities (Which Yahtzee incidentally commented on in his review of GoW3)

Tolerance of homosexuality is much better than it used to be in countries like England and America, which is where the majority of the immature haters come from. It comes down to values. I was brought up under the mantra of "All human beings are equal" and have developed enough of an open mind to not give 2 sh**s if someone likes members of their own gender. Quite a lot of other people (Mostly Americans, I'm afraid) aren't quite so open minded due to their upbringing, religious or not.

Female characters being badly realised just gives Yahtzee an excuse to hate on them (Which is the entire point of ZP, to hate on games, no matter how good), which gives the impression that he is a misogynist. He might be misogynist, I don't know. He might even admit that. I doubt he's going to take offense though.

As with men being the primary heads of gaming companies: Well, thats life. Men are more obsessed with gaming and will therefore be much more obsessed with game design and production. For example, of the 22 guys and 27 girls I keep in regular contact with, 8 of the guys and only 1 of the girls have expressed an interest in game design at some point. Women just like to pursue other interests.

Do you seriously think that the majority of world homophobes are American? Try being gay in Uganda or rural China, or anywhere in the middle east for that matter. Outside of the west, homophobia is the rule, not the exception. (Note that I am not endorsing homophobia, merely pointing out that your perspective on the US & England is inaccurate at best.)
 

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GBM said:
Do you seriously think that the majority of world homophobes are American? Try being gay in Uganda or rural China, or anywhere in the middle east for that matter. Outside of the west, homophobia is the rule, not the exception. (Note that I am not endorsing homophobia, merely pointing out that your perspective on the US & England is myopic at best.)
Seriously...do you have any idea how a homosexual would be treated in rural China, or did you just think adding China would get you extra kudos? Have you any proof of homosexuals being hurt in any way in rural China...?

No....i thought not.....doofus.
 

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huckleberryhound said:
GBM said:
Do you seriously think that the majority of world homophobes are American? Try being gay in Uganda or rural China, or anywhere in the middle east for that matter. Outside of the west, homophobia is the rule, not the exception. (Note that I am not endorsing homophobia, merely pointing out that your perspective on the US & England is myopic at best.)
Seriously...do you have any idea how a homosexual would be treated in rural China, or did you just think adding China would get you extra kudos? Have you any proof of homosexuals being hurt in any way in rural China...?

No....i thought not.....doofus.
I don't make a business of keeping tabs on anti-gay agendas around the world, but I know Uganda had a law floating around that would have given homosexuality the death penalty. Iran has a similar code, and the rest of the Middle East is about the same - including areas ruled by Hamas and Hezbollah.

As for China, a quick google worked...

Beijing, Dec 12 (AFP) - "David" is a 23-year-old Chinese politics student. Few friends know he is also a homosexual looking for a lover in a society where even fellow gays are disgusted by their own behaviour. While in awe of the handful of gays who are daring to speak openly in order to promote awareness in a hostile society, the student, like most Chinese homosexuals, has little intention of joining them.

"Coming out publicly would be a disaster for an ordinary person - he would be fired and ostracised," said David, who was willing to speak on condition that his Chinese name not be used. "Most just care about their own lives, they just want to try to be happy."
http://academic.brooklyn.cuny.edu/core9/phalsall/texts/c-gays.html

Anyone thinking the majority of homophobes are concentrated in the first world is living a real sheltered existence.
 

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dispite her hatred of the sacred yatzee (i am pissed(drunk btw) i feel that she is very sexy and should be given an emmy for her awesomeness.

wish i could write semi intelligele songs.

note. it took 15 minutes too write this! ;)
 

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Cyan. said:
What a horrible an uninteresting song.

The topic of the song is irrelevent when the song itself is just this damn bad.

"is it ok, is it ok"

No, That is not OK. That is outright shit.
This man tells the truth. These songs are uninspired, the lyrics are terrible and the videos make me want to gouge my eyes out. Complete failure all around.

If these were done by a man or a less attractive looking girl nobody would have given a hoot. Bunch of white knights, all of you.
 

Curtis

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I don't think it's fair to label Yahtzee as misogynistic. If anything, he's the first to criticize games exploiting huge breasts and ass in lieu of well designed characters and/or well written story.

Boyninja616 said:
For example, of the 22 guys and 27 girls I keep in regular contact with, 8 of the guys and only 1 of the girls have expressed an interest in game design at some point. Women just like to pursue other interests.
I can use anecdotal evidence, too: I've known several women who are excellent computer programmers and graphic designers. I know very few women who fit stereotypes.

Your draw your conclusion from a very limited sample size. The twenty-two guys and twenty-seven girls you know is not an accurate representation of men and women worldwide, in America, in the UK, or even in just one city. I suspect the results would vary, depending on locales.
 

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hmmm any one noticed that muses gets more hits on her posts then yahtzee? as for that I have no opinion of the song...
 

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feeqmatic said:
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crazy eh?
Im sorry but your post is not a logical response to what I'm saying. You're attributing a bunch of stuff that i didn't say in order to try to make my argument seem illogical but you haven't actually addressed it.However i will demonstrate how to effectively debate an issue by responding to what you are actually saying.

*snip*
yes. yes it was a illogical and unfair response, and it was meant to make you seem weird.

if you're convinced this is just mayes cashing in on his fame, i'm not gonna change your mind. i'm not even going to try. i agree with you the timing is somewhat conspicuous, but i'm inclined to believe she actually has a (personal) reason for doing this, and she isn't some sort of money whore.

the point here is that you can choose to believe this was made out of greed as some marketing tool, or that she was expressing her (evidently conflicted) feelings about him. i believe the latter, based on ehat i have seen of her and her songs. if you want to believe the first, that's up to you

FYI: the point of the song is to express what she loves about him but hates about him too. i'll agree it sounded somewhat creepy, but it was certainly interesting to me, and to a lot of other people appearently.