Rebecca Mayes Muses: Love Song for Yahtzee

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skim172

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Therumancer said:
No, you didn't miss anything. I doubt they have ever met either to be honest. Truthfully the only surprising bit about this for me was that it was supposed to be a "love song" and instead as it said we got a "hate filled love song".
I believe "love song" is most likely an ironic title. She doesn't seem to be much of a fan of his. It seems she concedes that he is good at making ironic criticisms and that's about it. The rest of it, it seems she considers his comments to be at times misogynistic, but more to the point, not constructive and unnecessarily negative. Hence "Is it okay ... to be me" - basically "Is there nothing that you can't criticize? Nothing that you don't despise?"

In that light, I'd say she has as much a problem with his misanthropy as his misogyny. Perhaps "love song" is more than just ironic - if Yahtzee is making "hate speeches," then "love song" would be establishing a contrary position, underlining that this song isn't about hate, like Yahtzee's columns are about. Screwdriver at the end sorta twists that up a little, but I'd guess it's a joke thrown in at the end to keep things lighthearted (I wonder if it's possibly a reference the recently-ended UK show "Ashes to Ashes," but that's a wild leap in logic).

Not an entirely unreasonable position, but I think, in my opinion, a misguided one. Yahtzee obviously has strong opinions and expresses them, but they seem no more stronger than opinions the majority of people hold. He's not seeking out people for the sole purpose of shooting them down, like this song seems to imply. He's not clipping the wings of wide-eyed dreamers, like The Man keeping down the Artist - he's critiquing the product displayed to an open public by a corporate group of designers. This is his job. It's also the designers' jobs. It is unreasonable to think that a company can go public with their work and yet demand it be treated as something personal, independent of the court of public opinion. If Yahtzee attacked anything within the personal realm of a designer - family, pet, personal artworks - then he would merely be vindictive. But the fact that a designer or artist has sentimental bonds wrapped tightly with a public work does not mean they can avoid public scrutiny.

Of course, it's my opinion, which I'm sure varies widely from the others here.


Though I feel that this song is especially misguided as the misanthropic self-deluded loser depicted in Yahtzee's videos seems to me an outlandish caricature. The guy who wears a Trilby, makes penis jokes, and threatens the world with bodily harm and brooding angst appears merely to be a wild exaggeration - a character, formed for the purpose of entertainment. I don't believe Yahtzee frequents with local hookers any more than I believe he has an imp that he lives with as a wacky, silent roommate.

And really, his videos belie the claim of misanthropy - Yahtzee actually seems somewhat of a jocular, even upbeat fellow. Hateful people are rarely humorous - Hitler was a notoriously inept comedian.

Claims of misogynistic jokes may have some merit, but Yahtzee in that case seems to be delving more into the chest of cheap grammar school laughs rather than the Pandora's Box of anti-female rage.
 

znix

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It was funny. I'm still waiting to see any of the trolls around here make something better.. C'mon, I DARE you :D
 

thegamermn

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This was...great...I think Yahtzee fears you now *Directs attenton to No More Heroes 2 Review* You make valid points and it's just plain funny
 

Talens

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i found the song overall underwhelming really i wanted to like it but just oculdn't. Also the screwdriver at the end could have been slightly funny if all subtelty wasn't stripped from it within seconds
 

beema

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f'ing amazing!!! I love it.
although it did creep me out a bit
just a bit
lol

I didn't like the guy at the end going "did you catch that?" though
the screwdriver was funny but then that ruined it
 

VampLena

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Its amazing how many idiot people there are to take stuff so seriously. Its amazing the entire world isnt fascist given how sensitive people are and how easily offended they get.

I think Yahtzee is awesome, and Im a girl, and I like Rebbecca, but its obvious this whole thing wasn't serious. Yahtzee's whole deal is trashing, and its funny, I though it was a awesome Tribute for Rebbecca to take his art style and trash on him.

Grow a thicker skin people, its all the whiners that'll end up making the world facist and get rid of every ounce of free speech there is. I highly doubt Yahtzee really cares or is offended in the least, so there's no need for people to be either.
 

morganpony2

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Yatzhee is not a misogynist and it is ironic. There is a fabulous article in this week's escapist which outlines exactly the same. He's subversive and clever. It's not a difficult crush to have at all.
 

Tim Chuma

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Hopefully there is more interaction between video producers in the future, was funny to hear Yahtzee's reaction to it this week.

I haven't really been able to get into any other videos on this site except for Yahtzee, Rebecca and Unskippable.

There are lots and lots of places to place in Australia if you wanted to come over for a tour Rebecca.
 

Sion_Barzahd

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Yikes, seems that Rebecca is pissed and out for Yahtzee's blood. You know what they say, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.
Good luck Yahtzee.

Although on the topic of the song itself i actually liked it. Keep writing rebecca!
 

Spectre39

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This is simply an attention-seeking pseudo gamer girl trying to ride on Yahtzee's coattails in an shameless effort to get more views than her "talent" ever deserves. And if you are genuinely offended by Yahtzee's humor, then please and kindly GTFO the internet.

Not impressed, not entertained, not wasting any further time on your videos.
 

Cody211282

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Did I miss something? This is the first one of these I have watched and I had no idea there was a feud going on, or is it just on her side and Yahtzee doesn't care, like normal.
 

belderiver

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Spectre39 said:
This is simply an attention-seeking pseudo gamer girl trying to ride on Yahtzee's coattails in an shameless effort to get more views than her "talent" ever deserves. And if you are genuinely offended by Yahtzee's humor, then please and kindly GTFO the internet.

Not impressed, not entertained, not wasting any further time on your videos.
So what you're trying to say is, you didn't get it, and you're threatened by girls in your space, and you get irrationally angry whenever someone disagrees with you or says things you dislike about people you like, and you have an inexplicable and irrational hatred towards anyone with an outsider opinion?

Your misplaced hostility is palpable. These kinds of comments look immature and like the worst of the gamer stereotype, the precise reason why Cracked's list of why it's embarrassing to call yourself a gamer is still accurate. I am so grateful that from what I have seen on this thread, they have been relatively few.

That all said - I'm not sure I could grasp this one completely, but I appreciate that somebody called Yahtzee out on his casual ironic hipster misogyny. It isn't that bad, and I watch his stuff anyway, but hopefully he has the grace to acknowledge some of it instead of getting all butthurt.
 

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belderiver said:
Spectre39 said:
This is simply an attention-seeking pseudo gamer girl trying to ride on Yahtzee's coattails in an shameless effort to get more views than her "talent" ever deserves. And if you are genuinely offended by Yahtzee's humor, then please and kindly GTFO the internet.

Not impressed, not entertained, not wasting any further time on your videos.
So what you're trying to say is, you didn't get it, and you're threatened by girls in your space, and you get irrationally angry whenever someone disagrees with you or says things you dislike about people you like, and you have an inexplicable and irrational hatred towards anyone with an outsider opinion?

Your misplaced hostility is palpable. These kinds of comments look immature and like the worst of the gamer stereotype, the precise reason why Cracked's list of why it's embarrassing to call yourself a gamer is still accurate. I am so grateful that from what I have seen on this thread, they have been relatively few.

That all said - I'm not sure I could grasp this one completely, but I appreciate that somebody called Yahtzee out on his casual ironic hipster misogyny. It isn't that bad, and I watch his stuff anyway, but hopefully he has the grace to acknowledge some of it instead of getting all butthurt.
That's not what I said at all. Don't try and read into something that isn't there. Kind of makes you look like an ass to make such... assumptions.

My basic reaction to any of Mayes' music is a flat "meh", regardless of the content. Her style is to merely come up with an idle thought or two and stretch it into a video through pretentious repetition. With such a bland presentation it begs the question why she even got this gig in first place. It couldn't be because gamers are unprincipled virgins who will waive any quality control on the sole basis of a pretty face- Oh wait!

However, my main gripe with this particular song is it's core message. That someone with paper-thin sensibilities are entitled to be catered to just because their precious feelings have been hurt. People like Mayes have apparently never heard of the concept of view discretion and would rather pout and make a scene to try and "fix" anything they don't agree with. Yahtzee has the freedom to use whatever humor he wishes to as long as he doesn't violate any rules and standards set by The Escapist, and anyone who has a problem with that has a personal responsibility to not watch his videos if they offend them so much. There's much worse behavior on the internet to be upset over, but instead we get this garbage reaction over trifles.

But I suspect that's not the reason she made this video at all. As we all know, Yahtzee is very popular on this website and is the reason why many of us users are here in the first place. He's been here since near the beginning and has stayed in the spotlight for so long because he's talented and entertaining. Mayes on the other hand is none of these things. She's relatively unknown on this website, but would have the audacity to cry foul over what Yahtzee has been doing so well for so long? The motive here is obvious. She was attempting to claim the moral high ground and by proxy claim attention from the impressionable masses on this website to keep her relevant. A publicity stunt, as it were. In the music industry this is a common tactic between hip-hop artists to start rivalries in order to generate buzz for their albums. This isn't music, it's a cry for attention.

So I'll continue to do my part by ignoring Mayes' sad excuses for content in the hopes that her presence here dies off from well-deserved neglect, if there's any justice.