Red Dawn Remake

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sallene

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I know this has been covered as part of other topics on remakes but I searched and have not found an actual topic for it by itself(either that or I am just that bad at searching).

Apparently the new remake will have the chinese and russians as the ones to invade the US.

This to me seems a bit....... bad.


The reason Red Dawn worked was mainly due to the fact that it was during the time when the cold war was still going on and there was still a very deep rooted fear of communism and communist states as the big boogie man waiting to take down freedom and america.


I just dont see the new movie being anything more than a generic action flick with generic bad guys that can be any nationality. Add to the fact that for the chinese to invade the US would pretty much lead to economic suicide for them and it becomes even more unbelievable. The fact that they are still using the tired go-to bad guy russia as another antogonist and I defintely just dont see this movie being all that great.

That said, I think Russia is a more believable antogonist than china is. To me, I think it would probably have been a better idea to choose north korea and iran with help from venezuela if they wanted to go the stereotypical bad guys agianst america route.

Truth be told form my perspective the world just isnt drawn along the same lines as it was back in the 80s and earlier where you can have a whole encompassing evil nation looking to plot the downfall of "truth justic and the american way". The world just isnt that place anymore.


Anyone else's thoughts?
 

Erana

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Me American consumer. Me want explosions!

Well, its true.
Really, though, modern history has just kinda gotten... Painful to deal with. Especially the Cold War.
 
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I think anyone involved with making movies that tries to do a remake should be killed on the spot no questions asked then there head put on a pike and placed in the center of Hollywood as a warning to others.
 

sallene

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george144 said:
I don't see the problem, Russians and the Chinese are evil people. Tv tells me so.
Really, mine tells me to go take a dump on the salad bar at wendy's.
 

sallene

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xmetatr0nx said:
Well im guessing they were attempting to make it more contemporary to the new audience. Lets face it though, making them russian wouldnt make much sense, how many of us lived through the cold war the way our parents who saw the original did? I doubt anyone posting now was born before 1989...cept me actually.
And me, which is probably why there are not alot of takers for the subject. I remember the Iran Contra affair. Although most people around here probalby thinks that has something to do with a konami video game.
 

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TheOnceandFutureKing said:
I think anyone involved with making movies that tries to do a remake should be killed on the spot no questions asked then there head put on a pike and placed in the center of Hollywood as a warning to others.
I didn't think the "The day the Earth stood still" remake was that bad. Of course, to make it good they'd need to change the name and make it a whole new movie.
 

Yog Sothoth

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The original Red Dawn was so fucking cheeze-tastic, I really don't see how they could mess it up. It's not like we're talking about Citizen Kane or something here...
 

Timotei

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I really don't care so long as they do two essential things:

1). Use real military hardware, none of this CGI bullshit.
2). Do not let Michael Bay anywhere near it.
 

arsenicCatnip

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*raises hand* I was born in 1986.

I liked the original Red Dawn because it WAS so cheesy. I mean, really? (okay, and it doesn't hurt that I live in Colorado and thought it was hilarious to see my home state invaded by the Russians.)

I don't think they can screw it up that badly, but at the same time I don't think they can really make it GOOD either, so it's kind of a 'meh' situation.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Well im guessing they were attempting to make it more contemporary to the new audience. Lets face it though, making them russian wouldnt make much sense, how many of us lived through the cold war the way our parents who saw the original did? I doubt anyone posting now was born before 1989...cept me actually.
Well, I was born in '88, does that count? I guess not, considering that I was only three by the time the Cold War officially ended.

OT: I've heard about this awhile back, and it never did make any sense to me. How do you adapt a film about the Cold War to the post-Cold War? Hell, even back then a Communist invasion of America was ridiculously implausible, but now? The Chinese would hardly consider much anything worth invasion of the United States, and any other nation would lack the resources to invade. I just don't see how this movie is even conceivable.
 

Bat Vader

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Didn't Russia nuke China in Red Dawn? Plus, to have China and America fight each other is unrealistic. With the amount of our businesses going overseas to them they would go bankrupt if they did attack us.

Plus, Red Dawn to me was a horrible horrible movie with no plot to speak of. Doing a re-make of it is a genius way to lose money.
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
Well im guessing they were attempting to make it more contemporary to the new audience. Lets face it though, making them russian wouldnt make much sense, how many of us lived through the cold war the way our parents who saw the original did? I doubt anyone posting now was born before 1989...cept me actually.
I was born in 86, Year of the Tiger in Chinese zodiac. thank you.

Well, there are a few paranoid politicos who see Russia as a threat again, since Putin is ex-KGB and did a few Soviet-esque things recently (which actually helped the country keep order and improve the economic stability enough to resume their old strategic bomber patrols for the first time since the fall of the Iron Curtain and pull some of their rusting ships out of harbor but I digress).

But you are right, Russia is by no means what they used to be, and doing a Russian-antagonist story would not have anywhere near the impact that it would have during the Cold War.