Red Dead hates women, loves glitching - apparently
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I don't know if it's just me but it seems like every open world game I play has some element of glitchiness. I more or less expect it now. The worst I've had is falling through the world in Macfarlene's Ranch.
I wanted to fire at someones hand to disarm them, like in one mission where its a sort of tutorial.. however if you don't paint enough targets on in some good places (the head for instance increases the bar an awful lot) and the enemy's bar goes up higher, they will shoot first and win. So I just paint them on the head.Mcface said:
Well, do you draw as soon as the duel starts, or wait for "DRAW!" to flash up? At that point the game will automatically go to Dead Eye mode, and you should hit the left trigeer. Then use the stick to move the cursor. The important part is the colours - if you pull RT when the cursor is white, it will fill your meter much faster than if you pull the trigger when it's red.Anoctris said:
The trick is to fill your meter before the other guy fills his. The best way to do it are aiming for certain spots, which make the meter fill faster. The one that fills it fastest is aiming for the gun in the other dude's hand, followed by the head and then (I think) the heart. If you time it right and pull the trigger while the crosshair is on the gun and white, you can fill your meter with one shot.
Hope that helps. I missed the tutorial too, and had to look it up online because I just couldn't win the duel in 'Eva In Peril'
I've seen no particularly jarring glitches. All of the few I have seen have been amusing instead, such as a cart that bounces incessantly.
You cannot disarm certain enemies. For example in the "The wronged woman" side quest you have to kill the guy in a duel.Penguinness said:
Concerning duels in general: The colour of your crosshair is important. If you rest on a spot the colour should change from bright red to dark red to white. A shit with a white pointer fills your meter more then one with a red marker. Once your meter is full you unload your gun at him.
Also headshots give the meter a higher boost than one to the stomach but that is quite intuitive.
My last tip: Draw relatively late. The camera is closer to the opponent and your pointer focuses faster.
im on the PS3 version and i havent had any serious glitches yet once i rammed my horse at full tit into the targets at McFarland ranch and got stuck so i had to reload and i had a freeze once and thats it for problems and i have been playing the game almost every day since it released
additionally i would disagree that the game hates women it seams to hate Jews every time i walk into a store the owner has a comment about how Jews are ruining america or the disgusting comments by random pedestrians like "i heard that John Marsden was a hired killer for the Jews" how dare they call me a hired killer
additionally i would disagree that the game hates women it seams to hate Jews every time i walk into a store the owner has a comment about how Jews are ruining america or the disgusting comments by random pedestrians like "i heard that John Marsden was a hired killer for the Jews" how dare they call me a hired killer
Ha, yeah, I loved that guy. "The railroads are just the tools of the Jews!"Kaymish said:
It did get a bit silly when the guy I was playing poker with kept saying "I hear that John Marston used to be a hired killer for the Jews". Come on, I'm sitting right here with my great big gun collection. If I were working for the Jews, you'd be totally getting shot in the face right now.
I'm beginning to wonder if either there is a glitchy copy of the game being sent to game reviewers, or if ironically they are pirating it or something. To be entirely honest I have not seen *ANY* glitches while playing this game, or at least none as noticible/incredible as both Seanbaby and Yahtzee have been mentioning.
As far as the portrayal of women in The Old West goes, well it can be said that the "honey trap" is indeed a time honored part of the genre (novels, movies, etc...).
To be honest, I got the opposite impression from Seanbaby when playing this game (humor aside)... I think the game was too politically correct. Back around 1911 women's lib wasn't as established as it is now, and there were plenty of women who were actually against women's sufferage for a number of reasons. This is a time period where you would have a lot of meek, submissive, uneducated women running around, with little in the way of "interesting" skill sets. In this game we meet the strong willed, adventuresome mexican girl, the quinteseential "I'm as cool as John Wayne" cowgirl (Bonnie), and numerous others. I suppose a few of the backround characters in the towns try and cover how things were, but Seanbaby is right in of the fact that pretty much every girl you run into is a thief strong enough to pull a bounty hunter off his horse and ride it away like a man (no sidesaddle riding here).
Given the fact that being an outlaw is considered to be "cool" nowadays, heck half the game is based around this, I'm not entirely sure that the female bandits and horse thieves and such could be considered negative given the tone of the game. Heck, there are even stranger quests (going to rescue some guy's girlfriend, only to find out it's really his horse he's worried about, and getting the horse back from some girl who rode off on it who actually had it together pretty well).
I guess it depends on perspective, oddly I think that the line between sexism and political correctness is a LOT thinner than people believe.
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On a side note, as odd as it might sound, one point I will make is that people frequently seem to wonder why people frequently speak in favor of there being racism, sexism, slavery, and similar things in games with a historical bent.
To some extent I think it's historical accuracy, but also the fact that I think showing things the way they were that way allows people to get away from the entire political correctness thing, and everyone feeling like they are walking on a mine field, where someone might be offended and public censure might be a couple of words away. In general if people didn't care, there wouldn't be so many people conforming to this, and no public censure to begin with, but it can be quite stressful. "This is how it is/was, we don't care who we offend" can be fairly relaxing in some respects.
Ironically I'd suspect someone of the guys at Rockstar sat down and put a lot of discussion into the period and how far they would push certain things like racism, and sexism. This is of course the result. What they actually acheived here is very debatable. It's certainly not an accurate portrayal of the dying west, but is it politically correct with all the women capable of doing these things (with the whole outlaw thing being considered 'cool' to an extent, and women doing the same stuff as dudes), or is it a misogynist fantasy?
Seanbaby is trying to be funny, and I think he was, but at the same token I think he's raised some legitimate questions.
Of course then again when doing a game like this I pretty much figure people should be throwing modern moral standards into the toilet to begin with, the point of a game like this (or a crime game for that matter) is to get away from all that.
As far as the portrayal of women in The Old West goes, well it can be said that the "honey trap" is indeed a time honored part of the genre (novels, movies, etc...).
To be honest, I got the opposite impression from Seanbaby when playing this game (humor aside)... I think the game was too politically correct. Back around 1911 women's lib wasn't as established as it is now, and there were plenty of women who were actually against women's sufferage for a number of reasons. This is a time period where you would have a lot of meek, submissive, uneducated women running around, with little in the way of "interesting" skill sets. In this game we meet the strong willed, adventuresome mexican girl, the quinteseential "I'm as cool as John Wayne" cowgirl (Bonnie), and numerous others. I suppose a few of the backround characters in the towns try and cover how things were, but Seanbaby is right in of the fact that pretty much every girl you run into is a thief strong enough to pull a bounty hunter off his horse and ride it away like a man (no sidesaddle riding here).
Given the fact that being an outlaw is considered to be "cool" nowadays, heck half the game is based around this, I'm not entirely sure that the female bandits and horse thieves and such could be considered negative given the tone of the game. Heck, there are even stranger quests (going to rescue some guy's girlfriend, only to find out it's really his horse he's worried about, and getting the horse back from some girl who rode off on it who actually had it together pretty well).
I guess it depends on perspective, oddly I think that the line between sexism and political correctness is a LOT thinner than people believe.
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On a side note, as odd as it might sound, one point I will make is that people frequently seem to wonder why people frequently speak in favor of there being racism, sexism, slavery, and similar things in games with a historical bent.
To some extent I think it's historical accuracy, but also the fact that I think showing things the way they were that way allows people to get away from the entire political correctness thing, and everyone feeling like they are walking on a mine field, where someone might be offended and public censure might be a couple of words away. In general if people didn't care, there wouldn't be so many people conforming to this, and no public censure to begin with, but it can be quite stressful. "This is how it is/was, we don't care who we offend" can be fairly relaxing in some respects.
Ironically I'd suspect someone of the guys at Rockstar sat down and put a lot of discussion into the period and how far they would push certain things like racism, and sexism. This is of course the result. What they actually acheived here is very debatable. It's certainly not an accurate portrayal of the dying west, but is it politically correct with all the women capable of doing these things (with the whole outlaw thing being considered 'cool' to an extent, and women doing the same stuff as dudes), or is it a misogynist fantasy?
Seanbaby is trying to be funny, and I think he was, but at the same token I think he's raised some legitimate questions.
Of course then again when doing a game like this I pretty much figure people should be throwing modern moral standards into the toilet to begin with, the point of a game like this (or a crime game for that matter) is to get away from all that.
Actually, the trick is to speed up and run them down, or lasso them as they run at you and drag them around the wilderness.SonicWaffle said:
I try and avoid that, because up until they start talking I don't know whether they legitimately want help, or are just thieving bastards. I'm playing as Mr Nice Guy, so it wouldn't do to murder someone who wants help.GloatingSwine said:
I've been through so many horses;RobCoxxy said:Love that name.SonicWaffle said:
My flatmate and I have ours called Lemmy and Paisley.... don't ask.
- Pickle, who was with me for the first 4 hours or so of the game, but tragically died when some idiot deputy tried to use him as cover in Pike's Basin.
- Geoffrey, who I accidentally ran over a cliff because I was speeding up and shooting backwards at bounty hunters.
- Agamemnon, who also went over a cliff because I did not see the cliff, and kept spurring him on.
- Paul, who did not die, but had to be abandoned when I crossed the river to Mexico. I can only assume he ended up as glue.
- Margaret, who was shot by outlaws. I'd just taken a bounty, and thrown the hogtied man over the saddle, when they appeared and gunned him down.
I miss them, one and all. Pour some out for my horsies, yo...