For the record, absolutely anyone can "own" a subreddit. This is a random redditor's opinion.
r/koans in particular is an incredibly obscure sub, full of it's owner's self-posts, 0-5 comments on them, and 0-10 upvotes. The resignation post has 600 replies and 2400 upvotes at the moment.
Also, this is the highest voted reply to it:
Aaron Swartz met BetterJosh wandering along a path, angry and alone. BetterJosh asked Aaron, "How should we defend the truth?"
Aaron replied quickly, "Preserve it carefully and share it without bias."
"Even the painful truths?"
"Especially those," said Saint Aaron.
"But shall we stop if the world turns on us?" plead BetterJosh, pain in his heart reflecting in his eyes.
Before he could answer, Aaron was whisked away in cuffs and never seen again. BetterJosh, enlightened, began to record the story.
He is aware that simply stating something is a fact doesn't amount to anything unless you substantiate it? Even if you bold the word "factually"? His personal anecdotal experience does not establish what is or is not "a fact".
He also bibbles about SJWs right off the bat, so you kind of know where he's coming from.
Someone spray-painted hateful slurs on a charity center in my city. Next week, they are going to repaint that wall.
Tomorrow, I'm going down there to protest. They are blatantly censoring the graffiti which has a right to exist due to freedom of speech.
Someone spray-painted hateful slurs on a charity center in my city. Next week, they are going to repaint that wall.
Tomorrow, I'm going down there to protest. They are blatantly censoring the graffiti which has a right to exist due to freedom of speech.
That has to be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen in my life. I mean hell, even if Reddit COULD be compared to a charity instead of a the for-profit corporation it is, it still wouldn't work since a better description would be painting over graffiti for a business whose entire model is based on putting up ads next to graffiti to get revenue.
Someone spray-painted hateful slurs on a charity center in my city. Next week, they are going to repaint that wall.
Tomorrow, I'm going down there to protest. They are blatantly censoring the graffiti which has a right to exist due to freedom of speech.
So in a world where the definition of "harassment" has come down to "googling your name and finding someone on some corner on the internet saying something mean about you" everybody is cool with people unilaterally deciding to ban "harassing" boards. This can only end well.
But of course, of course, laws and principles don't apply to our corporate overlords, nor should we expect them to act in a fair manner, you just shut up, pleb!
"Coontown", a subreddit dedicated towards the mockery of black people in light of the recent police shootings remains open.
CuteFemaleCorpses - A subreddit dedicated to images of dead girls.
HurtingAnimals - A subreddit dedicated to images of animal abuse.
SlutJustice - A subreddit dedicated to finding people posting in the relationship section and calling them out for being sluts.
ShitRedditSays - A subreddit dedicated to harassing anyone who isn't a fat lesbian genderfish.
But it's when you go into someone else's comfort zone, hate on them, make their lives miserable is when you should be yanked to a corner (not the kiddie corner, the one night cell room corner).
Maybe not harsh enough, or to harsh. I don't know .. . just seems like people have no filters these days.
Wow Caramel, I never thought you'd be so accepting of prison rape! Who else but a promoter of rape culture would advocate for this? /sarcasm
But seriously, banning them doesn't do a huge amount beyond just ticking a bunch of people off on principle alone, allows the worst of the bunch to go trollpost on the places that are havens for the ones they make fun of in their own, and just generally makes everyone a bit less tolerant of everyone else there while also lowering the quality of the rest of the site because it's now spread out instead of contained.
I mean, there's a reason 4chan had like five channels appear after MLP went on the air, four dedicated to making fun of Scientology when they were targeted because of jokes being taken seriously, heck, the GG Megathreads were considered a containment for alot of stuff and people have been complaining for months about GID being the GG forum now because there's alot of things that were in the mega now spread out in that forum.
Alterego-X said:
BloatedGuppy said:
Can someone explain brigading vs harassment to me? There was a distinction between the two but I never got around to actually reading it.
In this reference's context, brigading also means mass posting from other sub's members, and upvoting eac other's posts, so the whole planetside 2 sub got overloaded with Kotakuinaction threads about how outrageous the mods are, and how funny and cool it is to call transvestites and trannssexuals "traps", instead of planetside 2 discussion.
Dude, you're seriously misrepresenting of the event and aren't really all that knowledgable about what "traps" are. It's not about trans, it's first and foremost, in the context it was done in, a Dark Souls joke, anyone that's gotten around the place has had the soapstone messages saying "AMAZING TRAP AHEAD" all around Sen, next to Mimics, parts of Darkroot and by Sif's, and yes, outside of Gwyndolin's room, show up. Outside of that context, it still has nothing to do with transfolk(at least not the original sense before people misread and started the "TRANSPHOBIC" points), it has everything to do with anime and some of the jokes concerning crossdressers and also real life crossdressers, though only the ones that people think are VERY good and pass for the opposite sex very well.
And even me, with all my confusion about transfolk,(even more so the last few months, I've only gotten worse I feel understanding any of it), know that it has nothing to do with hate. It has pretty much everything to do with harmless jokes(that have never affected any character I know of that has been this trope) and appreciation of someone's...dedication and talent to crossdressing. I don't really see it any different than cosplay, except they normally look better.
Someone spray-painted hateful slurs on a charity center in my city. Next week, they are going to repaint that wall.
Tomorrow, I'm going down there to protest. They are blatantly censoring the graffiti which has a right to exist due to freedom of speech.
That has to be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen in my life. I mean hell, even if Reddit COULD be compared to a charity instead of a the for-profit corporation it is, it still wouldn't work since a better description would be painting over graffiti for a business whose entire model is based on putting up ads next to graffiti to get revenue.
I think the analogy holds up pretty well, all you have to do is replace charity center with Wal-Mart.
I'm not losing any sleep for the loss of "fat people hate" posters because fuck those guys. They can feel free to find another place to be assholes in. Good job Reddit!
Apparently the Reddit admins have now banned r/whalewatching which was not a Fat People Hate clone but a subreddit about actual whale watching. At this point it's pretty clear the admins aren't even actually looking at the subreddits they are banning, and are simply purging anything that has a title that remotely resembles the the subreddits they banned yesterday.
This [https://archive.is/5LxLK] is what r/whalewatching looked like before the ban.
The last whale-related picture was posted there two years ago, and all of it's current mods were people who were simultanously squatting on hundreds of non-used subs including r/racismplus, r/hitlerjerk, r/RapeWorthy_Feminists, and so on.
Why am I totally not surprised that r/whalewatching actually WAS a Fat People Hate clone and was justifiably deleted for being such contrary to the claims otherwise? Probably because it seems like misrepresenting the situation and spreading misinformation to further one's agenda has become par for the course in certain circles.
I also doubt I'll ever understand why some people are ideologically opposed to businesses being able to exercise their own rights to freedom of speech and freedom of association and property ownership by controlling what people are or are not allowed to do or say on their privately owned property. It's as if they believe that business owner is a class of people who deserve to have their rights denied or restricted. I mean, it's one thing to declare that business owners cannot discriminate against certain types of people, but quite another to argue that they shouldn't be able to discriminate against certain types of ideas or behaviors. Which is to say, a business owner shouldn't be able to deny bald people from entering their establishment on account that they might be a skinhead neo-nazi white supremacist, but should always have the right to kick someone out for waving around a swastica and getting in other customer's faces about how much they hate Jews and Blacks and Mexicans. Likewise, no website should be forced to host content that the owner of the website finds objectionable.
A lot of people seemed to be on board protesting and making fun of said business. Where were all the champions of the corporations back then, I wonder?
And they didn't actually kick anybody out.
What would happen if, for example, a restaurant or an amusement park kicked out a gay couple because they were kissing? Can you look at me with a straight face and tell me you would be vigorously defending the rights of the corporations?
Apparently the Reddit admins have now banned r/whalewatching which was not a Fat People Hate clone but a subreddit about actual whale watching. At this point it's pretty clear the admins aren't even actually looking at the subreddits they are banning, and are simply purging anything that has a title that remotely resembles the the subreddits they banned yesterday.
This [https://archive.is/5LxLK] is what r/whalewatching looked like before the ban.
The last whale-related picture was posted there two years ago, and all of it's current mods were people who were simultanously squatting on hundreds of non-used subs including r/racismplus, r/hitlerjerk, r/RapeWorthy_Feminists, and so on.
Why am I totally not surprised that r/whalewatching actually WAS a Fat People Hate clone and was justifiably deleted for being such contrary to the claims otherwise? Probably because it seems like misrepresenting the situation and spreading misinformation to further one's agenda has become par for the course in certain circles.
I also doubt I'll ever understand why some people are ideologically opposed to businesses being able to exercise their own rights to freedom of speech and freedom of association and property ownership by controlling what people are or are not allowed to do or say on their privately owned property. It's as if they believe that business owner is a class of people who deserve to have their rights denied or restricted. I mean, it's one thing to declare that business owners cannot discriminate against certain types of people, but quite another to argue that they shouldn't be able to discriminate against certain types of ideas or behaviors. Which is to say, a business owner shouldn't be able to deny bald people from entering their establishment on account that they might be a skinhead neo-nazi white supremacist, but should always have the right to kick someone out for waving around a swastica and getting in other customer's faces about how much they hate Jews and Blacks and Mexicans. Likewise, no website should be forced to host content that the owner of the website finds objectionable.
A lot of people seemed to be on board protesting and making fun of said business. Where were all the champions of the corporations back then, I wonder?
And they didn't actually kick anybody out.
What would happen if, for example, a restaurant or an amusement park kicked out a gay couple because they were kissing? Can you look at me with a straight face and tell me you would be vigorously defending the rights of the corporations?
The real problem here is you have this odd view that people must be doing it in support of corporations. Of course it doesn't seem consistent, half the situation is something you made up!
Someone spray-painted hateful slurs on a charity center in my city. Next week, they are going to repaint that wall.
Tomorrow, I'm going down there to protest. They are blatantly censoring the graffiti which has a right to exist due to freedom of speech.
That has to be one of the worst analogies I've ever seen in my life. I mean hell, even if Reddit COULD be compared to a charity instead of a the for-profit corporation it is, it still wouldn't work since a better description would be painting over graffiti for a business whose entire model is based on putting up ads next to graffiti to get revenue.
I think the analogy holds up pretty well, all you have to do is replace charity center with Wal-Mart.
I'm not losing any sleep for the loss of "fat people hate" posters because fuck those guys. They can feel free to find another place to be assholes in. Good job Reddit!
I have to disagree on account of the fact that Walmart doesn't operate by having ads placed next to the graffiti on its walls.
It doesn't help that they're lying about who what is being enforced and what their position is. Chairman Pao claims that it's only subreddits that are harassing or doxing people which are being banned, this is a lie. She also states that Reddit is all for freedom of speech, which is also a lie.
A lot of people seemed to be on board protesting and making fun of said business. Where were all the champions of the corporations back then, I wonder?
I'm curious, Wut, if you are one of those folks who generalizes "people" as some homogenous entity that speaks with one mind, and likes to imagine they are calling it out on hypocrisy. Or do you have specific individuals in mind?
I mean, I hear people on Reddit criticizing this decision, and then there are other people on Reddit supporting the decision! Fucking people right? Always contradicting themselves.
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