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Dead Century said:
Ever read Heavy Metal? There's your answer. Yes, artists do occasionally draw erotic material. It still makes for nice artwork. I shared an apartment with my cousin awhile back, he draws, and designs tattoos. It's often part of the culture, for a tattoo parlor or elsewhere. The feminine form in particular and masculine are great for practice. Curves, shapes, shadows, and so on. I don't see anything wrong with it.
I'm not really debating about whether or not artists DO draw porn in private.

I'm more or less talking about how their fans, or admirers may take that bit of info if they ever stumble upon it.

And does it honestly have the nasty consequences that most people make it out to be if they are discovered to do NSFW stuff on the side.
 

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~shrug~ I don't really see the problem that the majority of society has with porn. There's absolutely nothing wrong with explicit depictions of sex, whether in still or video form. Every species on the planet has sex. Humanity is just the only one that tries to pretend it doesn't.
 

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When it comes to reputation, porn is not created equal.

I can see how doing Loli-Porn, Furry or other less accepted forms of porn can damage an artist's reputation under certain circumstances.

But if they stick to the mainstream and the kinkiest thing in their pictures is a collar, I don't really see how this could lead to problems. After all, an artists non-pornographic works don't become worse just because he or she drew a penis in some other picture.
 

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Nobody seemed to care when I did it on deviant-art. Then again, I had a whole other profile for the not-as-safe stuff...a profile which has a lot more traffic...I haven't contributed to either in well over a year and likely won't be making any more contributions, just wanted to sound off but then, even my not-as-safe stuff wasn't anywhere near hard core.
 

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I misread that as "regular ATHEISTS", which was.. weird..

Ehh, generally there's either fun or money or curiosity in it. Most professional artists draw a lot of nude forms in training anyway, so they're rarely bashful.
 

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Dragonbums said:
Dead Century said:
Ever read Heavy Metal? There's your answer. Yes, artists do occasionally draw erotic material. It still makes for nice artwork. I shared an apartment with my cousin awhile back, he draws, and designs tattoos. It's often part of the culture, for a tattoo parlor or elsewhere. The feminine form in particular and masculine are great for practice. Curves, shapes, shadows, and so on. I don't see anything wrong with it.
I'm not really debating about whether or not artists DO draw porn in private.

I'm more or less talking about how their fans, or admirers may take that bit of info if they ever stumble upon it.

And does it honestly have the nasty consequences that most people make it out to be if they are discovered to do NSFW stuff on the side.
Oh, sorry didn't quite read that right. Well, look up Milo Manara. His comic work is pretty smutty, but he's also done a couple X-Men comics. Or Simon Bisley. Who's drawn a few TMNT comics. Speaking of TMNT, guess who owns, edits, and publishes Heavy Metal? Kevin Eastman. Like I said, it's part of the culture. None of their careers have been damaged by it. I don't know what it's like on Tumblr, but the real world doesn't usually make a big deal out of it if you draw and publish erotic work. Oh and I almost forgot, look up Oglaf. There are plenty of sites dedicated to comic porn.

Personally, as a fan of Luis Royo, Milo Manara, Simon Bisley, etc, none of it bothers me. It still makes for great artwork regardless. I'm an adult, and I can handle that kind of content.
 

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Hoo, boy, there's one artist in particular I REALLY like in terms of this subject:
http://jollyjack.deviantart.com/
Give his page a look. Go on, I'll wait.
And make sure to look at that mature stuff!
Finished? Good. Just so you know, yes, he's done far heavier stuff outside of Deviantart, take a look round and you can probably find some hardcore furry comics (Although you may not WANT to.)
And you may think you've seen that art style before, and you may well have. Somewhere like... Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53zMca9LIis&feature=player_detailpage#t=38
So yes. Jollyjack both draws hard & soft core furry pornography, and worked on character designs and art (He was the guy behind LoG, if memory serves, and he wasn't lying) for Nuts and Bolts. So I guess at least SOME people can get a job while drawing porn on the side. I mean, the two areas may be entirely separate, but still.

On a side note: Check out his How To Play comics if you get the chance - they're sorta like Yahtzee in comic form, so, ya know.
 

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Apparently, the artist for Black Lagoon (Rei Hiroe) does Doushinji under the name Tex-Mex. Of his own characters.
 

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Godlikebuthumble said:
thaluikhain said:
Depends...what's porn and what's art? Some arty types might wander over the line without meaning to.
This. Look to the paragon of late '90s/early '00 van artwork, Luis Royo. From haunting stuff that moves you to tears up to gigeresque techno-monster-porn. Then again, art is meant to express something, and if "Veined monster boner!" is on your mind, you gotta let it out.
My mum has two(or is it three?I don't know) Luis Royo prints, I've always found them really weird. They're not graphic except one has like a mega bush and I mean a mega bush, which is really weird.
 

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I'm doing exactly the same. I draw a lot or at least used to. Most of my works are somewhat horror related, fan-art or a mix of both.
But I have a little secret. once in while I'm just bored with my usual work and I start drawing some real kinky stuff. I used to put them all in a special sketchbook but there are only so many drawing a little can hold. So I have three of them already.I never showed them to anyone.

Edit. forgot to mentionend that I'm not really an artist. It's just a really big hobby
 

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TAGM said:
Hoo, boy, there's one artist in particular I REALLY like in terms of this subject:
http://jollyjack.deviantart.com/
Give his page a look. Go on, I'll wait.
And make sure to look at that mature stuff!
Finished? Good. Just so you know, yes, he's done far heavier stuff outside of Deviantart, take a look round and you can probably find some hardcore furry comics (Although you may not WANT to.)
And you may think you've seen that art style before, and you may well have. Somewhere like... Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53zMca9LIis&feature=player_detailpage#t=38
So yes. Jollyjack both draws hard & soft core furry pornography, and worked on character designs and art (He was the guy behind LoG, if memory serves, and he wasn't lying) for Nuts and Bolts. So I guess at least SOME people can get a job while drawing porn on the side. I mean, the two areas may be entirely separate, but still.

On a side note: Check out his How To Play comics if you get the chance - they're sorta like Yahtzee in comic form, so, ya know.
I'm both very familiar with those two artists.
Seeing as how they are wildly popular on DeviantART and all.
Doesn't surprise me that the two of them are into porn.
Their SFW stuff was already suggestive.

I have an artist I like too that does porn. I don't know if I should link though.
Since she puts effort into keeping both separate.
Then again she still uses a familiar brand name(and art style)...so I guess it's okay? http://kecunlimited.tumblr.com/
 

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I recently read an interview with Stjepan ?ejić (artist of the comic book WitchBlade) and his wife, they are getting known for a rather erotic strip they're posting in DevianArt, about a BDSM relationship between two lesbians.

The strip is highly erotic, not quiet porn, but bordering it, but it also has themes involving the nature of relationships, love, sexuality and other stuff.

Here's the interview (not quiet suitable to watch at work, sorry Mods if I'm breaking some forum rule):

http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Bonded-By-Ink-Bound-By-Love-Permission-For-Plea-395450915

I admit it's a guilty pleasure I have, but half the reason I read it is that it's a fun read too, I love the way he designed the characters.

Anyway, I thought this might be relevant to the discussion. ?ejić himself says in the interview he used to made commissions for an erotic/porn BDSM comic book before he landed the job for WitchBlade, and he started making Sunstone (his comic in DeviantArt) just to have fun.
 

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if_then_else said:
I recently read an interview with Stjepan ?ejić (artist of the comic book WitchBlade) and his wife, they are getting known for a rather erotic strip they're posting in DevianArt, about a BDSM relationship between two lesbians.

The strip is highly erotic, not quiet porn, but bordering it, but it also has themes involving the nature of relationships, love, sexuality and other stuff.

Here's the interview (not quiet suitable to watch at work, sorry Mods if I'm breaking some forum rule):

http://techgnotic.deviantart.com/journal/Bonded-By-Ink-Bound-By-Love-Permission-For-Plea-395450915

I admit it's a guilty pleasure I have, but half the reason I read it is that it's a fun read too, I love the way he designed the characters.

Anyway, I thought this might be relevant to the discussion. ?ejić himself says in the interview he used to made commissions for an erotic/porn BDSM comic book before he landed the job for WitchBlade, and he started making Sunstone (his comic in DeviantArt) just to have fun.
This is very relevant to the discussion.

Thank you for the link.
It's actually a bit encouraging to know that he got hired for a job despite the fact that his first origins was in NSFW art.
Which means that now a days people only care about how good the art is as opposed to what kind of art you used to do in the past.
 

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It really depends on what you consider to be "porn."

I mean, artists often draw nudes, does that count as porn? I'm sure it does to some people, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who would look at a painting like "The Birth of Venus" and think that it's porn.

That's the thing, porn has such a nebulous meaning that no one quite knows what it means. Can you define porn in a way that would exclude other art?
 

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It really depends on what you consider to be "porn."

I mean, artists often draw nudes, does that count as porn? I'm sure it does to some people, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who would look at a painting like "The Birth of Venus" and think that it's porn.

That's the thing, porn has such a nebulous meaning that no one quite knows what it means. Can you define porn in a way that would exclude other art?
If you define porn as something that was created with the intent of being masturbated to, I think you can.

I mean, anything can be sexualized and used for self-gratification (From a mental stand point), so I guess intent is the best one can judge on.
 

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AccursedTheory said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
It really depends on what you consider to be "porn."

I mean, artists often draw nudes, does that count as porn? I'm sure it does to some people, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who would look at a painting like "The Birth of Venus" and think that it's porn.

That's the thing, porn has such a nebulous meaning that no one quite knows what it means. Can you define porn in a way that would exclude other art?
If you define porn as something that was created with the intent of being masturbated to, I think you can.

I mean, anything can be sexualized and used for self-gratification (From a mental stand point), so I guess intent is the best one can judge on.
And that's the thing, a lot of paintings of nudes that we consider great works of art now were originally made to be titillating, provocative, and erotic. Take for example many of the paintings from the Italian Renaissance. A lot of the paintings of nudes that are considered masterpieces (both at the time of the renaissance and today) were commissioned by wealthy aristocrats to decorate their bedrooms. Why their bedrooms? They needed something to get off on while they were having sex with their wives (many of whom were ugly, and who the aristocrats married out of family obligation, or for money).

It's kind of funny to think of some of the works of art that are discussed and interpreted in art classes all over the world being used as masturbation material for kings, dukes, cardinals, members of the Medici family, etc. That's not to say that the art is somehow less worth admiration just because it was once used by someone to chock the chicken, nor does it mean that the art is devoid of symbolism and not worth studying, the point is that art tends to have a purpose beyond just being art, and if the commissioner wants to use the art for something like masturbation material that doesn't automatically devalue it.
 
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Since I tend to consume a lot of porn outside of the realm of reality I have always been confronted with a lot of pornographic art both written and painted. And I usually tend to ask myself what these guys do besides porn. I have seen drawings and paintings so detailed and with so much heart and style, read stories so imaginative, haunting and atmospheric that I really can't think of that in any other way as of art - no matter if I fap to it or not and no matter if its just tasteful nudity or really hardcore stuff.

And given how high the quality sometimes is I'm willing to bet that these guys certainly do other stuff with their skill except porn. So even if they draw porn all the time I'm 100% certain that they also do regular art - and possibly far more often than the stuff I see or read. But naturally I fully understand if these guys don't want their regular art to be associated with the icky stuff - if they do it regardless and how much the ratio between regular art and basic porn is depends on the artist in question I suppose.
 

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Dirty Hipsters said:
AccursedTheory said:
Dirty Hipsters said:
It really depends on what you consider to be "porn."

I mean, artists often draw nudes, does that count as porn? I'm sure it does to some people, but I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who would look at a painting like "The Birth of Venus" and think that it's porn.

That's the thing, porn has such a nebulous meaning that no one quite knows what it means. Can you define porn in a way that would exclude other art?
If you define porn as something that was created with the intent of being masturbated to, I think you can.

I mean, anything can be sexualized and used for self-gratification (From a mental stand point), so I guess intent is the best one can judge on.
And that's the thing, a lot of paintings of nudes that we consider great works of art now were originally made to be titillating, provocative, and erotic. Take for example many of the paintings from the Italian Renaissance. A lot of the paintings of nudes that are considered masterpieces (both at the time of the renaissance and today) were commissioned by wealthy aristocrats to decorate their bedrooms. Why their bedrooms? They needed something to get off on while they were having sex with their wives (many of whom were ugly, and who the aristocrats married out of family obligation, or for money).

It's kind of funny to think of some of the works of art that are discussed and interpreted in art classes all over the world being used as masturbation material for kings, dukes, cardinals, members of the Medici family, etc. That's not to say that the art is somehow less worth admiration just because it was once used by someone to chock the chicken, nor does it mean that the art is devoid of symbolism and not worth studying, the point is that art tends to have a purpose beyond just being art, and if the commissioner wants to use the art for something like masturbation material that doesn't automatically devalue it.
So an interesting question should be, why is porn art from 400 years ago still revered as artistic master pieces, while the porn art of today is (at least on surface level) seen as disgusting, crude, and for the most part has the potential to ruin an artists career if discovered by the wrong person?

Is it perhaps because it is more...up front with the sex aspect then the paintings of the past? I mean, those paintings for the most part were just women laying naked on satin sheets looking seductively at the viewer. The porn of today involves lots of dicks, lots of...you get the point.
 

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Purple Kecleon is a brilliant and talented artist who 99% of the time draws Pokemon, SFW AND NSFW. Because I mentioned her, you can easily see where this is going.

Is she ashamed of it? No, she even keeps the same alias surprisingly. Do I get off to it? fuck no, but do I repect her still? Of course, she keeps the stuff seperate and continues work on other projects, no harm to anyone and she makes extra cash.

Plus I like her safe stuff when its awesome.