Repair her Armor Blog

[BathorysGraveland2]

Wouldn't naked women have double the effect as a naked man? Not only are they willing to fight naked but they're also WOMEN fighting naked.

Any opponent is bound to either underestimate a naked female or at least be somewhat confused by the scenario.

Well, I just brought it up because historically there were some cultures that had men who fought bare-chested or completely naked. Some Gaul tribes featured this. While the majority of warriors would still don armour or clothes to battle, some would neglect them and go bare chested/naked to display their heroism and fearlessness, so the Conan thing isn't quite so far-fetched. Women on the other hand, have no such historical example. The only culture I can think of where women played an active role in warfare as equals alongside men are the Scythians, and even then, they fought from horseback and wore pretty covering garments, and sometimes completely protective armour. So no naked barbarians there. Haha.

 

[Abomination]

Wouldn't naked women have double the effect as a naked man? Not only are they willing to fight naked but they're also WOMEN fighting naked.

Any opponent is bound to either underestimate a naked female or at least be somewhat confused by the scenario.

Well, I just brought it up because historically there were some cultures that had men who fought bare-chested or completely naked. Some Gaul tribes featured this. While the majority of warriors would still don armour or clothes to battle, some would neglect them and go bare chested/naked to display their heroism and fearlessness, so the Conan thing isn't quite so far-fetched. Women on the other hand, have no such historical example. The only culture I can think of where women played an active role in warfare as equals alongside men are the Scythians, and even then, they fought from horseback and wore pretty covering garments, and sometimes completely protective armour. So no naked barbarians there. Haha.

Various Scandanavian tribes had Shieldmaidens who would fight alongside their men as well, but again no recordings of them doing so with tits out.

Perhaps the Maori tribes of New Zealand had some women warriors but being naked to them wasn't really an issue since they didn't even have armour.

I don't mind the BDSM gear we see in a lot of fantasy art, but I would never consider it practical.

 

[Zetatrain]

Given the "Seraphicide" part of the title, it could well be thematically appropriate. *wikis* ...Yep. The character of Avengelyne is an angel who fights demons and other monsters, and her blood gains special powers by quoting the Bible. Christian symbols fit into the character design rather neatly.

Wait... THAT is the plot of the comic!? And they have her... wearing that in the original cover?

That HURTS MY BRAIN!!

Are you really all that surprised?
You also have this

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Christian symbolism + lots of blood, violence, random straps and skimpily dressed woman seems to be a thing.

I think they have a word for that its called Nunsploitation

I'm a Christian.

I'm not an extremeist -omg all LGBT PEOPLE HAZ TO DIIIIIIIEE

I'm not incredibly Conservative

This....is just....wrong.

Somehow I doubt actual Christians are the specific target audience

 

[Blow_Pop]

I look at it more as a people can vent their frustrations out in re-design. That said, I'd like to play as a female character in which I don't have fucking 5 inch heels. I know it is completely possible to run around in them and kick ass. However, it is more likely that if a girl is going to wear boots they are going to have little to no heel (and when I say little heel I mean like work boot kind of heel that you would see on a construction site with men or in an automotive shop) because they are more versatile. It's like game designers have no concept sometimes of sexy AND functional.

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I mean I love my demon hunter in diablo 3. I mean look at how badass she looks. But to me, those heels look uncomfortable as hell. And they are at least 5 inch heels. This coming from someone with no fashion sense whatsoever and confirmed by those with a fashion sense and the ability to judge heel height.

and yes I know the size quality of some of the photos sucks. Can't help what my phone decides to do.

and that was a gif I made off of a website using my webcam set to show my desktop. It was a pain in the ass to do as my laptop doesn't like doing much of anything. If photo doesn't work, original can be found here: http://gifyo.com/GamerBunny/9279669/

 

[kypsilon]

It should be noted that Avengelyne is a co-creation involving Cathy Christian and Rob Liefield. It was a horrible comic with a horrible premise and it was originally choke full o' Liefield "art" and "story". Changing their costumes can't make that stink go away, but OT, I admit I do prefer the second cover.

Leave something to the imagination, am I right?

 

[Devil's Due]

... Why did they suddenly put crosses on all her clothing items? Her pants have one, her shirt... is this part of her character or are the new artists just trying to force a message about clothing / religion too?

There was already a cross theme going on, though not as explicit. Plus, it's a religious themed character, so why would it be forcing a message about religion?

A hint can be found in the subtitle of Seraphicide.

I'm sorry, I'm not religious so "Seraphicide" just sounds like someone mashed some words on a keyboard, and you really expect me to believe that comic just from the front page of it is religious with two almost naked girls trying to kill each other? I assumed the person making the change to more clothing was the one forcing religion due to suddenly adding crosses on a comic I had not heard of before while also making it more conversative in the sense of clothing.

Next time I'll read every word in every religious textbook before I read a comic's name again, just to prevent any misunderstandings!

 

[Something Amyss]

I'm sorry, I'm not religious so "Seraphicide" just sounds like someone mashed some words on a keyboard, and you really expect me to believe that comic just from the front page of it is religious with two almost naked girls trying to kill each other?

I expect you to be able to guess at the origins of words (made up or otherwise) and motifs given before jumping to unnecessary conclusions.

I assumed the person making the change to more clothing was the one forcing religion due to suddenly adding crosses on a comic I had not heard of before while also making it more conversative in the sense of clothing.

And that's the problem. You assumed.

Next time I'll read every word in every religious textbook before I read a comic's name again, just to prevent any misunderstandings!

I'm betting you already know at least a couple.

One doesn't need to be religious to apply the basic reasoning that was employed here. Alternatively, one can do fifteen seconds of research, as I did to verify my own suspicions:

Avengelyne was the most feared warrior in Heaven's Warhost, having single-handedly broken into Pandemonium, the outer fortress of Hell, to confront the Devil himself. She is a fallen angel, banished from Heaven by God after being tricked into questioning his love for humans. Avengelyne was stripped of all her angelic abilities, other than her great strength and her blood, which, once extracted from her body, could be used as a weapon or a miracle once empowered by quoting verses from the Bible. Although he appeared truly angry, God was trying to prepare Avengelyne for a coming war for which she would need to be strengthened.

Keeping her faith in the Lord even on Earth, Avengelyne began to fight the demons she found while there. Eventually, one of her enemies, the demon lord B'Liale, sent a demon, Kyle Wagner, to seduce Avengelyne and father a powerful demon child. God sent Passover, the Angel of Death, to kill Avengelyne for her involvement, but the child, Magog, was born prior to the angel's arrival, and so together Passover and Avengelyne drove the demon-spawn away.

Seeing her devotion to him was still strong, God allowed Avengelyne to live, and she still fights demons on Earth. Eventually, when Armageddon occurs, Avengelyne will lead Heaven's Warhost, with Passover as her second-in-command.

Source: Wikipedia.

Amazingly, none of this requires an encyclopedia knowledge of religious texts. In fact, while I know Seraphim refers to a host of angles, I couldn't tell you without looking it up whether or not the word appears in the Bible (you'd be surprised how many concepts and words used by Christians do not).

One can also reasonably infer that the cross motif comes from her existing costume. There's a fairly noticeable cross, and it wouldn't be unreasonable to infer this might be a motif. Barring that, the name "Avengelyne" appears to be a portmanteau of "Avenge" and "Evangeline," a name that refers to a messenger. And a Y, because PORE LITERUHSEE IZ KEWL.

I could go on, but the point is there's a lot of information to work with.

 

[Something Amyss]

Somehow I doubt actual Christians are the specific target audience

Yeah, avenging angels/badass angels are pretty popular with the secular folk, too. And, of course, women in skimpy clothing, too. Combine them? Yeah.

Quickly! We must apply realism to all fantasy and people's imagination! Seriously this is just getting ridiculous.

You mean ridiculous like "applying more modest attires to a woman's clothing being accused of 'realism' despite the examples given still not being realistic?"

Because that reeks of strawman. Attacking a more easily ridiculed version of the motivation at hand.

This isn't about realism. I'm not sure anyone would claim it is.

Well I'm female so that's probably why or maybe its just a taste thing but I don't "get" most "sexy" armour/costumes. Not talking about sexism or realism or anything like that. Most of time it just looks boring, ugly or silly to me.

Well, it's mostly designed to make teen boys feel tight in the pants, so there's not much else to "get." If you're not turned on by women, you won't see any appeal. And if you're male and don't find these outfits more appealing than something less ridiculous, you'll be accused of being gay. Because the only way women can be hot is if they look like strippers MIRITE GUISE.

 

[Abomination]

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I mean I love my demon hunter in diablo 3. I mean look at how badass she looks. But to me, those heels look uncomfortable as hell. And they are at least 5 inch heels. This coming from someone with no fashion sense whatsoever and confirmed by those with a fashion sense and the ability to judge heel height.

and yes I know the size quality of some of the photos sucks. Can't help what my phone decides to do.

and that was a gif I made off of a website using my webcam set to show my desktop. It was a pain in the ass to do as my laptop doesn't like doing much of anything. If photo doesn't work, original can be found here: http://gifyo.com/GamerBunny/9279669/

Did you just take a PHOTO of your screen?

You do know there's a printscreen button that does that for you, so you can paste it straight into... I dunno... Microsoft Paint, right?

 

[Callate]

Much reminded of the Dragon magazine comic with the caption, "Fortunately, I was wearing my armor..."

(Sadly, there don't appear to be any decent quality versions for me to link to, but you can find it for a quick websearch.)

I don't mind attractive women in revealing attire, but the cross-the-board idea that that's what women would go into combat wearing gets more than a little ridiculous. The first time, the bad guys go "Whoa!" and maybe you win through the sheer element of surprise; the next time you get a bunch of holes in all those rather necessary organs around your cleavage and belly button.

And that's not even getting into the constrictive and restrictive nature of some outfits, the lack of storage space (certainly enough of a problem in real-world women's wear), not to mention all the sticking and chafing...

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

A noble venture, but I think they should just accept now, that the will never fix Terra or Scarlet Blade. Not now, not ever.

 

[Aaron Sylvester]

A noble venture, but I think they should just accept now, that the will never fix Terra or Scarlet Blade. Not now, not ever.

They're not trying to get changes to happen in games that are already released though, they're most likely looking to influence future/upcoming games.

Overall nothing more than just another feminist blog really.
Although I'm somewhat liking one or two examples from an artistic perspective...but if I wanted to see quality art of beautiful "non-offensive" females I'd just go to DeviantArt >_>

Spoiler: wooo girls in armor

 

[major_chaos]

Ehhhh. On one hand I like some of their redesigns, and I see where they are coming from, but some of the redesigns make it look like they have an issue with a female showing any skin at all. Like: http://25.media.tumblr.com/8da5d20b781360f02555c2f35ecff91e/tumblr_mnw77gq7bB1s9p45oo1_400.png
Was the original really that bad?

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Nice. But the question I ask myself is do I think of the character any differently with full armour on? In many cases, not really. It's only the bordering-on-pornographic ones that are bad enough to have the character take a back seat to sex appeal. Similarly, the images in the OP change almost nothing for me. They're still postured ridiculously. Doesn't communicate power or aggression to me either way. But still, interesting to see what the artist does. I do like what they did with some of the others though, and in a few cases it does go from blatant pandering to a believable (if elegant) design.

 

[Hagi]

Ehhhh. On one hand I like some of their redesigns, and I see where they are coming from, but some of the redesigns make it look like they have an issue with a female showing any skin at all. Like: http://25.media.tumblr.com/8da5d20b781360f02555c2f35ecff91e/tumblr_mnw77gq7bB1s9p45oo1_400.png
Was the original really that bad?

They specifically state in the description that the original wasn't really bad at all. But someone submitted it and they had some fun making a few alterations which turned out good so they posted it.

OT: Really liking this.

No massive changes that completely change the character's feeling, instead just some touching up that makes it all the more believable (which isn't quite the same as realistic). Good stuff, and I wholly agree with the touched up characters often looking sexier than the originals.

As long as things stay away from the whole skimpy armors are a corrupting influence thing I'm all for it.

 

[Scarim Coral]

It remind me of that blog (was also a thread made about it months ago) who redesign various comicbook girls (mainly Marvel, DC and Vampirella) for fun, that is until he took it off when some people took way too serious about it.
I had a look at the blog itself and I got to say it's impressive that she even took on that scandalous game Scarlet Blade.

 

[Lieju]

I especially like it when they show how the male equivalent looks like in the game.

Many are just recolourings, or people drawing on top of an existing picture, so it doesn't fix the silly posture, but not everyone is an artist. I like it that you can submit reworkings too, in case you aren't talented enough to draw it yourself.

 

[BoredAussieGamer]

This is amazing. But I would like to point out in the original Robert E. Howard stories, Conan only ever wore a loin cloth when the situation called for him to be light and flexible (e.g climbing and shit). Most of the time, he wore more than that.