REPORT: Leaked Document Reveals Police Plan to Kill African-Americans

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C14N

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inmunitas said:
Odd that you rarely hear people call the white population "European-American", given that the majority of the population of North America are not native.
I guess, but it's probably because white people of European heritage represent a majority and have done since the nation was founded so creating a more politically correct label for it was unnecessary on a broader cultural level. It's really not that often that you even hear black people referred to as "African Americans" unless it's by someone who is really trying not to cause offense. I could probably count on one hand the number of times I've just heard a regular person (as in not a politician or someone representing a corporation or organisation) consistently say "African American" every time they want to refer to a black person, because it is a bit of a mouthful really.
 

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Not sure about the harsh bit, I've seen people seriously arguing that victims are to blame for not doing that before getting shot.
I recall one incident in particular where the police told two men (one white one black) to stay in their car. The black guy kicked the door open and jumped out, whereupon he was shot to death.

Public response to the incident was 'He wouldn't have been shot if he were white!'. And, no duh. The white guy actually complied with the order so no, he wouldn't have been shot.
 

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nepheleim said:
The South Carolina cop was arrested, charged at the state level for murder, and in a couple weeks, we'll see him charged with federal crimes related to official oppression too.
Has there actually been a case of a cop openly disregarding the law in which the cop was actually found guilty by the jury? I can't think of one. Wish there were though
 

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Childe said:
nepheleim said:
The South Carolina cop was arrested, charged at the state level for murder, and in a couple weeks, we'll see him charged with federal crimes related to official oppression too.
Has there actually been a case of a cop openly disregarding the law in which the cop was actually found guilty by the jury? I can't think of one. Wish there were though
quick google search turned up these articles

http://newsok.com/jury-finds-del-city-police-captain-guilty-of-first-degree-manslaughter-gives-four-year-prison-sentence/article/3908689

http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-post/rare-move-conroe-police-officer-was-convicted-manslaughter

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/arlington-deputy-convicted-of-voluntary-manslaughter-in-may-shooting/2013/12/13/11d4e942-634b-11e3-a373-0f9f2d1c2b61_story.html

Be careful of thinking because the media doesnt report it that it doesnt happen. The media decide what is or isnt news worthy. The news media is still a business and needs to make money. The more outrage or emotion an article creates, the more money they make. Around the same time as the cop shootings that we all know of involving a white police officer and a black unarmed victim, there were also cases involving black police officers shooting unarmed white people but it never made national news.
 

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Ryotknife said:
Childe said:
nepheleim said:
The South Carolina cop was arrested, charged at the state level for murder, and in a couple weeks, we'll see him charged with federal crimes related to official oppression too.
Has there actually been a case of a cop openly disregarding the law in which the cop was actually found guilty by the jury? I can't think of one. Wish there were though
quick google search turned up these articles

http://newsok.com/jury-finds-del-city-police-captain-guilty-of-first-degree-manslaughter-gives-four-year-prison-sentence/article/3908689

http://www.texasmonthly.com/daily-post/rare-move-conroe-police-officer-was-convicted-manslaughter

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/arlington-deputy-convicted-of-voluntary-manslaughter-in-may-shooting/2013/12/13/11d4e942-634b-11e3-a373-0f9f2d1c2b61_story.html

Be careful of thinking because the media doesnt report it that it doesnt happen. The media decide what is or isnt news worthy. The news media is still a business and needs to make money. The more outrage or emotion an article creates, the more money they make. Around the same time as the cop shootings that we all know of involving a white police officer and a black unarmed victim, there were also cases involving black police officers shooting unarmed white people but it never made national news.
Yeah the news is rather finicky about what they want to write on. At any rate its good to see that not every incident is swept under the rug, it gives me a little hope that we can still come out of this dark little pit.
 

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Childe said:
nepheleim said:
The South Carolina cop was arrested, charged at the state level for murder, and in a couple weeks, we'll see him charged with federal crimes related to official oppression too.
Has there actually been a case of a cop openly disregarding the law in which the cop was actually found guilty by the jury? I can't think of one. Wish there were though
Well, it seems that someone beat me to answering your question. The trouble is that the legal process is a lot longer than the issue attention cycle. For all the furor over Mike Brown (for example), I doubt most of those people will remember his name by the time the appeals process has ended. Same goes for any other case.
 

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CrystalShadow said:
You missed a trick though.
No I didn't, I specifically asked what people would call blacks in other countries, and even stated that African-American wouldn't make any sense, that's why I asked in the first place. :p


CrystalShadow said:
African-american would offend almost all the black people I've met in person, because most aren't african in any meaningful sense, and none are American.
Calling a british black person 'african-american' would already be absurd.

Calling an Australian aborigine one would be downright stupid on every possible level.

It's fascinating people can argue about what is an acceptable term for a black person, then blindly even ignore the existence of non-americans...
And I'm fascinated when people don't actually read something they reply to, and miss the point entirely. Did you not even see the last paragraph you quoted of me? Where I specifically ASK what you would call blacks outside the US? Since calling them African-American would be stupd? 'Cause I'm thinking you didnt, based on this response.



CrystalShadow said:
And if you're wondering, 'black' (or it's equivalent in the local language) is the most common term I've come across in europe.

In Australia, more than 95% of the black population are the country's original inhabitants, and the most politically correct way of referring to them is as 'indigenous Australians'.
Thank you, you finally got around to actually answering my question, after a paragraph of subtle insult talk.

CrystalShadow said:
Anyway, point is, there's far more wrong with the term 'african-american' than the 'african' bit...

Unless you view the US as the centre of the universe of course.... >_>
See above part where I tell you to actually read the question I asked before replying to it.
CrystalShadow said:
~facepalm~ Yeah. This happens sometimes. Now, I could accuse you of editing your post to try and make people look stupid, but it's fairly obvious that edits don't cascade through the system, so if you had done that, the evidence of it would be in my own post...

Obviously, this is my error. Sometimes, you just miss things. Look at what you said if the last paragraph is missing, and what I replied makes perfect sense.
I didn't edit anything to make anyone look stupid. I quoted the parts that were specifically in question. And frankly I'm kind of insulted that you would imply that, seriously why even bring that up? The evidence is in your own post, there would be no point for me to try and misrepresent you, since all anyone needs to do is scroll up and read what you actually said? That type of deception wouldn't last very long, the length of time it takes to spin your mouse wheel a little bit.

CrystalShadow said:
Though, taking your reaction to my mistake into account, did you notice I actually answered your question?
Yes, did you notice that I responded to that point further down? Or did you miss that part too? I'm not saying this with sarcasm, I'm simply curious, because this seems to be 2 instances now where you didn't actually read everything I've said, and then responded. When you actually got around to answering my question, and not making what seemed to be sarcastic jabs at me, based on an inaccurate understanding of what I actually said, I thanked you for finally answering my question.

CrystalShadow said:
So uh, well done on noticing that sometimes people can miss the obvious.

Shit happens. I'm not in the mood to say anything more than that right now.
A simple "Hey, my bad, I totally missed that part when I responded" would be fine. But ok, respond with more sarcasm instead, don't really care.