Baulder's Gate 2. Do you not love Boo? Boo loves you. Why do you not love Boo back? You are selfish!
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The entire PC games industry was pretty much built from the ground up in the UK. That's why you will be hard pressed to find someone from the UK who's childhood gaming was on a console like the NES instead of on a computer. We did make the first properly 3D game (Elite), afterall.x434343 post=9.74406.843375 said:
No.No.No.No.NOO!Reaperman Wompa post=9.74406.832314 said:
World of Warcraft? You're kidding right? It's boring, repetitive, bland, boring, has grind where you don't want to see it and is rubbish. It would take them days of their time and would absorbe their social life, and Myspace is already doing that, why do you need to add to it. Imagine doing a lesson.
"So, what's your biggest crit on a 70 rogue?"
"Me!Me!Me!1500!"
"Christ, you play a rogue? L2p newb!"
"For tommorow's lesson we'll be covering heroic raids!".
Think things through before you say an mmo.
I can't imagine a opening/survey course on gaming would not include Super Mario Bros. from the NES. You'd also have to include Half-Life. And for the third game... It would really be a toss-up between either an RPG (Chrono Trigger or Baldur's Gate) or a strategy game (Civ II or Starcraft).
There are games I like better than all of the ones I've mentioned, but I don't think you could do the history of gaming justice if you go straight to games like Deus Ex. (My favorite ever, but if I only had to pick 3 to represent the history of gaming, I just would be completely unable to justify its inclusion.)
There are games I like better than all of the ones I've mentioned, but I don't think you could do the history of gaming justice if you go straight to games like Deus Ex. (My favorite ever, but if I only had to pick 3 to represent the history of gaming, I just would be completely unable to justify its inclusion.)
You'd need more than 3 to illustrate a progression but let's say we're talking about "Videogames as Legitimate Art Form", in that case I would select the following...
Okami (Visual)
Bioshock (Conceptual)
Silent Hill 2 (Narrative)
Okami (Visual)
Bioshock (Conceptual)
Silent Hill 2 (Narrative)
No, not three. Three for an area of focus maybe.
Shooters
Doom - A kill ever damn living thing! fragfest, plus it more or less started the genre
Half-Life 2 - A showcase of story-telling with more thoughtful, slower-paced combat
Halo: Combat Evolved - A mix of both, a benchmark for the console shooter, and a heavy influence in the design of most shooters made since
Computer Role-Playing Games
Final Fantasy VII - A Japanese RPG
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Mass Effect (student choice) - A Sci-Fi RPG with non-linear mission progression and explorations of morality
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - A fantasy RPG with open world sand-box gameplay
Strategy
StarCraft - The phenominal popularity just begs study and it is highly representative of Real-Time Strategy
Sid Meier's Civilization - Turn-Based Strategy
Rome: Total War - Real-Time Tactics
Nintendo
Super Mario World - The most representative form of Mario
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - Again, this is the basis of Zelda
Metroid Prime (play-through of included Metroid classic required) - Both models of Nintendo's adventure platformer
Racing
Star Wars Episode I: Pod Racer - Sci-Fi racer
Mario Kart - Kart racer
Project Gotham Racing 4 - Realistic racer
Stealth
Thief: The Dark Project - First-Person Stealth
Metal Gear - Isometric stealth
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell - Third-Person Stealth
Shooters
Doom - A kill ever damn living thing! fragfest, plus it more or less started the genre
Half-Life 2 - A showcase of story-telling with more thoughtful, slower-paced combat
Halo: Combat Evolved - A mix of both, a benchmark for the console shooter, and a heavy influence in the design of most shooters made since
Computer Role-Playing Games
Final Fantasy VII - A Japanese RPG
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic/Mass Effect (student choice) - A Sci-Fi RPG with non-linear mission progression and explorations of morality
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind - A fantasy RPG with open world sand-box gameplay
Strategy
StarCraft - The phenominal popularity just begs study and it is highly representative of Real-Time Strategy
Sid Meier's Civilization - Turn-Based Strategy
Rome: Total War - Real-Time Tactics
Nintendo
Super Mario World - The most representative form of Mario
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past - Again, this is the basis of Zelda
Metroid Prime (play-through of included Metroid classic required) - Both models of Nintendo's adventure platformer
Racing
Star Wars Episode I: Pod Racer - Sci-Fi racer
Mario Kart - Kart racer
Project Gotham Racing 4 - Realistic racer
Stealth
Thief: The Dark Project - First-Person Stealth
Metal Gear - Isometric stealth
Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell - Third-Person Stealth
I think the main things you have to identify for this are which games have been the most important for the development of games in general and in the way that those games have helped to define the gaming landscape. For this reason I pick:
Half-Life: The most influential and important first person shooter ever made in my opinion. The focus upon immersion by keeping the player rooted into Gordon Freeman's perspective combined with intelligent AI and tight scripting has resulted in some of the finest moments available in gaming today. Bioshock, System Shock 2, Call Of Duty (Any of them), Halo and Half-Life's equally important sequel wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Half-Life. That alone merits its inclusion.
Command And Conquer: And yes, before anyone starts yelling, Dune 2 did RTS first. But it was Command And Conquer that took all of the elements from Dune and stuck them into a finely balanced world with an easy to sue interface. Dune may have created the architecture, but Command And Conquer consolidated the RTS genre into one of the biggest genre in gaming. Is Starcraft superior? Yes. Is it as important? No.
Super Mario Bros: Nothing can be said about Super Mario Bros that hasn't already been said before. It's one of the most important games in video game history, and still plays as well as it did when it was first created. It's one of the pinnacles of platforming design and is THE platforming game that established the genre, helping to define gaming's identity in the 80s and 90s.
You really can't have only 3, but if you were going to have 3, those would be the ones to pick. I'd love to have a role-playing game in there since they seem to be more popular than RTS games just now, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I think that the creation of a brand new genre that can ONLY be played upon consoles and computers is far more important than an evolution of pen and paper role playing, which the RPG has developed out of.
And it really, really bugs me that I can't stick System Shock 2 in there but Half-Life's more important. I think these three cover three core elements of gaming that are still seen today: technical skill and purity in Mario, the development of story telling in Half-Life and strategy and intelligence in C&C.
Half-Life: The most influential and important first person shooter ever made in my opinion. The focus upon immersion by keeping the player rooted into Gordon Freeman's perspective combined with intelligent AI and tight scripting has resulted in some of the finest moments available in gaming today. Bioshock, System Shock 2, Call Of Duty (Any of them), Halo and Half-Life's equally important sequel wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for Half-Life. That alone merits its inclusion.
Command And Conquer: And yes, before anyone starts yelling, Dune 2 did RTS first. But it was Command And Conquer that took all of the elements from Dune and stuck them into a finely balanced world with an easy to sue interface. Dune may have created the architecture, but Command And Conquer consolidated the RTS genre into one of the biggest genre in gaming. Is Starcraft superior? Yes. Is it as important? No.
Super Mario Bros: Nothing can be said about Super Mario Bros that hasn't already been said before. It's one of the most important games in video game history, and still plays as well as it did when it was first created. It's one of the pinnacles of platforming design and is THE platforming game that established the genre, helping to define gaming's identity in the 80s and 90s.
You really can't have only 3, but if you were going to have 3, those would be the ones to pick. I'd love to have a role-playing game in there since they seem to be more popular than RTS games just now, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I think that the creation of a brand new genre that can ONLY be played upon consoles and computers is far more important than an evolution of pen and paper role playing, which the RPG has developed out of.
And it really, really bugs me that I can't stick System Shock 2 in there but Half-Life's more important. I think these three cover three core elements of gaming that are still seen today: technical skill and purity in Mario, the development of story telling in Half-Life and strategy and intelligence in C&C.
Half Life 2 because it's simply a masterpiece. Nothing exceptionally innovative other than the gravity gun, but it's very well made.
Ocarina of Time because it defined 3D action-adventure games and is one of the classics.
And Chrono Trigger as a study of a well made JRPG.
There are more, these are just three that come to mind.
Ocarina of Time because it defined 3D action-adventure games and is one of the classics.
And Chrono Trigger as a study of a well made JRPG.
There are more, these are just three that come to mind.
Fallout 3 - Fighting tactically w/ VATS.
Saints Row 2 - Show how TRUE sandbox co-op should be. (Fable 2 FTL)
Zelda: OoT - Come on, its the greatest game of all time, how can my students NOT play it?
Saints Row 2 - Show how TRUE sandbox co-op should be. (Fable 2 FTL)
Zelda: OoT - Come on, its the greatest game of all time, how can my students NOT play it?
My chosen games would be
1. Final Fantasy X - Great RPG, perfect example of turn-based battle system
2. Kingdom Hearts 2 - Another RPG which is a great example of real-time battles
3. Infamous - Most attacks use a FPS "style" screen while the environment is sandbox
1. Final Fantasy X - Great RPG, perfect example of turn-based battle system
2. Kingdom Hearts 2 - Another RPG which is a great example of real-time battles
3. Infamous - Most attacks use a FPS "style" screen while the environment is sandbox
I'm still astounded to this day, WHAT THE HELL do people see in starcraft even after, how much is it, 11 years? Plenty other RTS games , better games, ACTUAL REAL TIME GAMES, since hen, but that thing is still koreas national e-sport... what the deuce.....
Oh and don't you dare give me the story, or the interesting races, for i shall slap you over the face with the plated glove of proof of rip-off!
Oh and don't you dare give me the story, or the interesting races, for i shall slap you over the face with the plated glove of proof of rip-off!