Researchers Grow Functional Rat Kidneys in Lab

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1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
 

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Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
 
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1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
 

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Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
Learning to let go is a good thing. That's why we need to bring back the child labour. The random chance of getting sucked into one of the machines will teach people how to deal with sudden losses.

That would solve my previous complaint though so we better not. I'd rather be right :D
 
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1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
Learning to let go is a good thing. That's why we need to bring back the child labour. The random chance of getting sucked into one of the machines will teach people how to deal with sudden losses.

That would solve my previous complaint though so we better not. I'd rather be right :D
Being right is painfully overrated, being left is all the rage in Death Valley I hear.

This technology would be so much better if we used it for testicles instead. We could cure the genophage with them.

Still not sure I understand why you think this isn't good though (fer srs) or if you were serious.
 

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Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
Learning to let go is a good thing. That's why we need to bring back the child labour. The random chance of getting sucked into one of the machines will teach people how to deal with sudden losses.

That would solve my previous complaint though so we better not. I'd rather be right :D
Being right is painfully overrated, being left is all the rage in Death Valley I hear.

This technology would be so much better if we used it for testicles instead. We could cure the genophage with them.

Still not sure I understand why you think this isn't good though (fer srs) or if you were serious.
I thought we pured all the left handed ones in the great purge.

The answer is probably and because of reasons.
 
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1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
Learning to let go is a good thing. That's why we need to bring back the child labour. The random chance of getting sucked into one of the machines will teach people how to deal with sudden losses.

That would solve my previous complaint though so we better not. I'd rather be right :D
Being right is painfully overrated, being left is all the rage in Death Valley I hear.

This technology would be so much better if we used it for testicles instead. We could cure the genophage with them.

Still not sure I understand why you think this isn't good though (fer srs) or if you were serious.
I thought we pured all the left handed ones in the great purge.

The answer is probably and because of reasons.
We missed one somewhere and before we knew it that left handed bugger started to capture us noble right handers and forcefully convert us. They're like zombies I say.
 

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Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
1337mokro said:
Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

1337mokro said:
It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

1337mokro said:
Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
Learning to let go is a good thing. That's why we need to bring back the child labour. The random chance of getting sucked into one of the machines will teach people how to deal with sudden losses.

That would solve my previous complaint though so we better not. I'd rather be right :D
Being right is painfully overrated, being left is all the rage in Death Valley I hear.

This technology would be so much better if we used it for testicles instead. We could cure the genophage with them.

Still not sure I understand why you think this isn't good though (fer srs) or if you were serious.
I thought we pured all the left handed ones in the great purge.

The answer is probably and because of reasons.
We missed one somewhere and before we knew it that left handed bugger started to capture us noble right handers and forcefully convert us. They're like zombies I say.
Your mouse hand was simply to weak, that is how they turned you. You started playing console games didn't you?! You disgrace the name of the PC gaming master race.

We should also stop because we're basically spamming the chat. :D

The last joke is yours if you want it.
 
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Oh of course it's progress, but progress is not inherently good. See child labour through industrialization :)
That would be applicable if we were testing this treatment at the expense of scooping up random africans to test this on. We're not :)

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It's both good and bad. One it allows the rich a basically limitless supply of organs. Drank one liver to death? Take one out of the fridge and SLAP it on.

Simultaneously people in third world countries will still be stuck on dialysis machines.
"Oh those dialysis machines, all those rich people will be able to afford one, after they have ruined their health, while the poor people will just die in the gutter of the street", they said once upon a time.

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Universally good news would have been "Researchers invent way to grow kidneys for less than 5 pence per kidney".
Changes happens over time.
This is the reality of our world at this time.
Within the knowlage of the above fact, which itself is not good... This is good news, not bad.
Oh of course not. We are going to test it on working class slubs whose only change at life is a new kidney!

Eh actually they do. Sheikhs in Saudi Arabia have their own personal medical wards. They literally own medical equipment for their own personal use. Now I don't know of an example in America because there it basically involves walking into a private clinic and paying the bill so why even bother buying the machine?

Knowlage :D

Uhum... Sure it's good news... for the people that will be able to afford the treatment.
As time progresses we will learn more and get a better grasp on the procedures the cost will go down. Ya know, like pretty much all other forms of human technology through history?
We invent something and it is rudimentary and only available to the rich and powerful. Time passes, we perfect it/get better at making it and price decreases as our methods become more efficient and economical.

And even if this were to only be available to the rich for a long while then think of it like this.
The more rich people that use these kidneys = the more normal kidneys available for non-rich people.

So even if this is only available to the rich more people would still be saved and get kidneys than now.

So no matter how you look at this it is an example of good progress.
:D
Define Good.

It's most certainly Progress for the replication of organs. But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Let me pull up a dictionary so I can dictionary nazi you :)
benefit or advantage to someone or something
From the Oxford English dictionary :D
:p
So you would define it as not bad?

Though how does it have No bad sides? Then it can be all good. But apparently we have to wait for that to happen so it DOES have bad sides :)
Nah man no bad sides at all. I mean who wants their kidneys to function right and honestly who cares about poor people? They're so poor and smelly.
;)
I'm having fun :D
Well for one people who want to end it all. What if their family forces them to get surgery and get new kidneys for 10 more years of agony (average life span of donor kidneys = 10 years).

Also like I said with that definition child labour is good to! It reduced expenses, you can have a work force with tiny hands to reach the small parts in machines AND kids are staying off the street away from crime. Child labour is so GOOD. It basically drove the entire industrial revolution and look where it got us now? No bad sides at all!
Indeed! In fact I say we should go back to child labor! Gives em something to do and if any accidents happen we save money on replacements!
And while that new life might be "bad" for the suicidal it is obviously "good" for their family and friends. And said person would have more family and friends being positively affected than the one individual being negatively affected.

So we have a net gain of good!
Learning to let go is a good thing. That's why we need to bring back the child labour. The random chance of getting sucked into one of the machines will teach people how to deal with sudden losses.

That would solve my previous complaint though so we better not. I'd rather be right :D
Being right is painfully overrated, being left is all the rage in Death Valley I hear.

This technology would be so much better if we used it for testicles instead. We could cure the genophage with them.

Still not sure I understand why you think this isn't good though (fer srs) or if you were serious.
I thought we pured all the left handed ones in the great purge.

The answer is probably and because of reasons.
We missed one somewhere and before we knew it that left handed bugger started to capture us noble right handers and forcefully convert us. They're like zombies I say.
Your mouse hand was simply to weak, that is how they turned you. You started playing console games didn't you?! You disgrace the name of the PC gaming master race.

We should also stop because we're basically spamming the chat. :D

The last joke is yours if you want it.
I'm sorry but the Halo pc port was just so bad it almost forced me to go console!!!!!!!1!

Last joke? Uhm, oom, aaahhh, I don't perform well under pressure Dx
My humor center has gone flacid...

Wait! I think I got it!
Comedic genius I know.
 

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But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Well... thanks for admitting that.

I can stop wasting my time feeding the troll.

Keep it classy. But keep it to 4Chan please.

But in response to what you said, trickle down theory is a theory that gained in the 1970's and put into practice in the 1980's. By and large it is bullshit as to the nature of what the trickle is... however the basic idea that wealth passes down from the top of society to the bottom of society is one that has continued so that even if the percentage of wealth of wealth decreases, the real wealth of the induvidual increases over time.
The main deceit of trickle down theory is the suggestion that it is constant... which is isn't by any means. Wealth tends to be created in large quantities and then passed down in large chunks to the wider population in different stages, as opposed to constant trickles over time.
 

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Comando96 said:
1337mokro said:
But to claim it as a good progress is kind of letting me trololololololol you :)
Well... thanks for admitting that.

I can stop wasting my time feeding the troll.

Keep it classy. But keep it to 4Chan please.

But in response to what you said, trickle down theory is a theory that gained in the 1970's and put into practice in the 1980's. By and large it is bullshit as to the nature of what the trickle is... however the basic idea that wealth passes down from the top of society to the bottom of society is one that has continued so that even if the percentage of wealth of wealth decreases, the real wealth of the induvidual increases over time.
The main deceit of trickle down theory is the suggestion that it is constant... which is isn't by any means. Wealth tends to be created in large quantities and then passed down in large chunks to the wider population in different stages, as opposed to constant trickles over time.
Why should I when the escapist could use the pratice?

Also you do understand that that is complete bullshit right? Passed down in large chunks through the population? BULLSHIT of the highest degree. If it was a diamond it would be flawless, sadly it's just crap. We have designed a consumer economy and then set up laws where the consumer does not profit from the increase in wealth.

It is absolute bullshit whenever wealth is consolidated it NEVER leaves that place. It is hoarded and stuffed in more money making schemes. Only when that money has to be hidden in corporate investments and other methods to reduce taxation will the trickle actually start. Long as no one is forced to spend the money or lose it through taxation it will just be sloshed off to the Kayman Isles or Switzerland or whatever.