I'd rather be in a room with a thousand black widows and rats than in a room with one roach :SSaviordd1 said:if it wasn't cockroaches. Seriously, they're cockroaches, only slightly less loved than rats and more loved that black widows.
Why?DugMachine said:I'd rather be in a room with a thousand black widows and rats than in a room with one roach :SSaviordd1 said:if it wasn't cockroaches. Seriously, they're cockroaches, only slightly less loved than rats and more loved that black widows.
How lethal something is rarely crosses me mind, at least when it comes to spiders. I spent a few years living with my grandmother and she had a serious black widow problem. I would have maybe 3 or 4 in my room at any given night. So I just sorta learned to live with em. Plus I'm not a huge bug person but i'm quite fond of spiders, they're really interesting.Saviordd1 said:Why?DugMachine said:I'd rather be in a room with a thousand black widows and rats than in a room with one roach :SSaviordd1 said:if it wasn't cockroaches. Seriously, they're cockroaches, only slightly less loved than rats and more loved that black widows.
Black Widows can kill you.
And plus one roach is ten times more clean than either a spider or rat.
And they're probably far more durable than any small-scale robot they could possibly create.Creating these "biobotic cockroaches" was a cost-effective alternative to "small-scale robots," which would have been too difficult to produce quickly and efficiently.
I felt the same way. It's one thing to eat animals and such, but to enslave them for this seems wrong even if it is fiscally logical.the December King said:Hmmm. I don't want to take away from this experiment's findings, but perhaps if the roaches could also be monitored somehow for their general health... I know this is going to sound pathetic, but the thought of running them to death so we can know stuff kinda makes me sad.
Definitely. I'm getting shades of Grimdark'd Ratatouille, with the crafty and lovable rat replaced by humans needing to probe the deepest, darkest corners of little slices of Hell.wsmieszek said:This is so many flavours of morally wrong that I cannot even begin to comprehend how is that okay to do.
Actually, they're using their fear response to predators to maneuver them. So not only do they have emotions, but they're being exploited for them. If we did this enough to mammals, they'd become extremely neurotic as a result.DugMachine said:Why are so many people sorry for the roach? Roaches don't have emotions...
Hmm well sorry but my deep rooted phobia will never let me have sympathy for roachesBiasedVeracity said:Actually, they're using their fear response to predators to maneuver them. So not only do they have emotions, but they're being exploited for them. If we did this enough to mammals, they'd become extremely neurotic as a result.DugMachine said:Why are so many people sorry for the roach? Roaches don't have emotions...
Of course it's unethical. It removes the free will of the cockroach. We may not like them but they are living creatures and this is constant torture of a living being.Uber Waddles said:Damn. I'm not sure if this is something thats pretty awesome, or pretty scary.
And I'd love to see what people have to say about the morality behind using biobotics in a way like this. Is this unethical to be doing such experiments? Pretty amazing none the less. I certainly hope these get applied in a practical way though
Exactly. If humans never had been mechanically induced to have the feeling of being chased around by a predator all the time, then they'd serve no other purpose than simply being gross. At least, that's what an alien would think! Are we really as cruel as the cruelest aliens that come from our imaginations?briankoontz said:Human domination of the planet infringes upon non-human animals all the time, but rarely in such a direct, malicious, and torturous manner.
If it turns out aliens exist, it's not difficult to imagine a powerful race of beings considering humans as "pests" and "finding a use for them" by strapping a torture device to our backs and controlling us remotely. "This is a great use for humans, who seem to serve no other purpose than generally being gross" might even be blithely posted by one of them on their version of the internet.
Damn those cockroaches and their lack of useful purpose to human beings! Now finally they may take the grand step of being constantly tortured in the name of service to humanity!
You do understand that cockroaches don't have any intelligence and thus could not in any way posses will, right? They are, basically, little biological automata operating on a set of instructions preprogrammed in them by evolution. And you really gotta love people clamouring to defend rights of the cockroaches when most of them would kill one on sight. Hypocrisy abounds.briankoontz said:Of course it's unethical. It removes the free will of the cockroach. We may not like them but they are living creatures and this is constant torture of a living being.