Researchers Remotely Control Cockroaches With Electronic Backpack
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well this thread became a shit storm fast
i don't care a about the life of a Cockroach
and i value human life more then i value any other animal or insect
while i have no moral issues with this experiment i don't get how is exactly useful to the future of mankind
but i find it interesting
if you quoting me to argue morals; then i will agree to disagree automatically and not reply you(in other words i will ignore you).
i don't care a about the life of a Cockroach
and i value human life more then i value any other animal or insect
while i have no moral issues with this experiment i don't get how is exactly useful to the future of mankind
but i find it interesting
if you quoting me to argue morals; then i will agree to disagree automatically and not reply you(in other words i will ignore you).
peta had an issue with obama killing a fly so they would have a problem with thisMorganL4 said:
My brain has two responses to this.
1. With a little more work to make the backpack less noticeable, these could be used for surveillance as well. Dun. Dun. Duh duh dun. Dun. Duh duh dun. Dun...
2. Aaaaaaand the animal rights extremists are going to have a FIELD DAY with this.
1. With a little more work to make the backpack less noticeable, these could be used for surveillance as well. Dun. Dun. Duh duh dun. Dun. Duh duh dun. Dun...
2. Aaaaaaand the animal rights extremists are going to have a FIELD DAY with this.
The moment we start valuing the lives of cockroaches over those of humans is the moment I say feck off to anyone who's trying to argue in favor of it.
Cockroaches are despicable insects that only exist where there is filth and decay, they carry diseases that make us and other animals sick.
When you squash a cockroach you carry its eggs and you spread more of these insects into the world.
My personal opinion is that valuing the life of a cockroach over that of a human is just perverse and quite dangerous, for valuing the life of a cockroach more means that all humans can be damned for your part and that makes you a menace to society.
Cockroaches are despicable insects that only exist where there is filth and decay, they carry diseases that make us and other animals sick.
When you squash a cockroach you carry its eggs and you spread more of these insects into the world.
My personal opinion is that valuing the life of a cockroach over that of a human is just perverse and quite dangerous, for valuing the life of a cockroach more means that all humans can be damned for your part and that makes you a menace to society.
In the process of reading this article and all the posts in this thread I have killed a cockroach, So yeah no problem with this at all.
Now I can't wait for the other creations that can be found in the movie "Fifth Element". Just never thought the Cockroach spy bug was ever going to be invented.
Now I can't wait for the other creations that can be found in the movie "Fifth Element". Just never thought the Cockroach spy bug was ever going to be invented.
I think it's an idea that has great chance for helping society. Little fellows who can get into disasters or moniter a sticky situation.
On the other side, I hate the fear technique. Obsticals I can see why, but fear? Maybe filtering smells for temptation? Smells like food? sparking curiosity? I imagine there's a way to do it.
Oh, and all you people who say bugs can't feel, fear, hunger, or care? It makes me feel very sad to hear this. I have kept bugs as pets. I had a well trained spider that did tricks, was terrified by the sound of crickets, and 'wagged' its legs in the air when it had it's big bum petted.
I've had hermit crabs (land and ocean) that fought for dominance, some that would be adorably shy, and others that would bully and devour. Same with shrimp and other exo-skeleton based life. There are also many bugs that would die before their babies do.
Fear, reproduction, hunger, pain, and satisfaction are all parts of just being alive regardless of how strong of a degree something interprets it. It's all apart of eat or be eatten.
It doesn't matter what teeny tiny organic being this is used for. Let's find a way to use this discovery both for science and do it with a little less fear.
On the other side, I hate the fear technique. Obsticals I can see why, but fear? Maybe filtering smells for temptation? Smells like food? sparking curiosity? I imagine there's a way to do it.
Oh, and all you people who say bugs can't feel, fear, hunger, or care? It makes me feel very sad to hear this. I have kept bugs as pets. I had a well trained spider that did tricks, was terrified by the sound of crickets, and 'wagged' its legs in the air when it had it's big bum petted.
I've had hermit crabs (land and ocean) that fought for dominance, some that would be adorably shy, and others that would bully and devour. Same with shrimp and other exo-skeleton based life. There are also many bugs that would die before their babies do.
Fear, reproduction, hunger, pain, and satisfaction are all parts of just being alive regardless of how strong of a degree something interprets it. It's all apart of eat or be eatten.
It doesn't matter what teeny tiny organic being this is used for. Let's find a way to use this discovery both for science and do it with a little less fear.
Considering that nature creates way more effective "machines" until robotics get a lot more advanced, this is the right direction to go.
And to you folks who are crying about animal cruelty, I suggest you never EVER try to find out what scientist had to do, and continue to do, to laboratory rats to find cures for diseases. (You know, animals that are studied to be advanced enough to exhibit social attributes such as altruism)
And really? Animal cruelty? Oh dear god people, I hope you have no plans of procreating.
And to you folks who are crying about animal cruelty, I suggest you never EVER try to find out what scientist had to do, and continue to do, to laboratory rats to find cures for diseases. (You know, animals that are studied to be advanced enough to exhibit social attributes such as altruism)
And really? Animal cruelty? Oh dear god people, I hope you have no plans of procreating.
The cockroach hate is strong in this thread.
Cockroaches are some of the most clean helpful little critters ever. Your kitchen bench is more dirty than your average cockroach, seriously. Not only that, they helped prevent the spread of disease and infection back in olden times because they clean EVERYTHING. It's like Cracked said, Cockroaches just have a really bad PR team, all they need is some Pixar movie to convince us how loveable and helpful they really are.
Cockroaches are some of the most clean helpful little critters ever. Your kitchen bench is more dirty than your average cockroach, seriously. Not only that, they helped prevent the spread of disease and infection back in olden times because they clean EVERYTHING. It's like Cracked said, Cockroaches just have a really bad PR team, all they need is some Pixar movie to convince us how loveable and helpful they really are.
Fear is to strong a word, cockroaches do not have enough of a nervous system or cognitive capability to feel fear. They do not have any emotions at all, the scientists are simply using an instinctual response.BiasedVeracity said:
I am a life long supporter of animal rights but claiming these experiments are morally wrong because the cockroaches "have feelings" sounds like the kind of crap PETA in America come up with. Do you think the cockroaches should have voting rights too?
Maybe I've missed it... But just in case: "Cocroackes - WITH FREAKING LASER BEAMS!".
There.
I understand there is a way to do research on animals, but take fish for instance. Not many people to defend their individual rights. And fruit flies/jellyfish/and those plant-like thingies-that-are-in-fact-animals-at-the-bottom-of-the-sea... Well I'm a meat eater, and I long ago made peace with the fact that an UNatural venomous flying shark (spawned from a very NATURAL scientist's mind) will one day feast on me.
I firmly believe that humans are king (and queens ;p) of this earth. And we should act accordingly.
Else we might be overthrown.
There.
I understand there is a way to do research on animals, but take fish for instance. Not many people to defend their individual rights. And fruit flies/jellyfish/and those plant-like thingies-that-are-in-fact-animals-at-the-bottom-of-the-sea... Well I'm a meat eater, and I long ago made peace with the fact that an UNatural venomous flying shark (spawned from a very NATURAL scientist's mind) will one day feast on me.
I firmly believe that humans are king (and queens ;p) of this earth. And we should act accordingly.
Else we might be overthrown.
whilst this is pretty cool technology, i cant help but feel that we humans are really going too far with the subjugation of animals
killing them outright because they spread disease or corrupt crops ect is fair play, that's survival of the fittest but actively terrorising an animal into doing what you want by messing with it's brain really crosses the line imo
i mean, you've essentially blinded it and forced it to navigate by feel, and what does it get out of this deal?
i'm honestly on the fence as to the morality of this experiment
small robots may be expensive and hard to build, but let's be honest they last forever with the right care and you don't need to hurt anything to do it so it has to pay off in the end
killing them outright because they spread disease or corrupt crops ect is fair play, that's survival of the fittest but actively terrorising an animal into doing what you want by messing with it's brain really crosses the line imo
i mean, you've essentially blinded it and forced it to navigate by feel, and what does it get out of this deal?
i'm honestly on the fence as to the morality of this experiment
small robots may be expensive and hard to build, but let's be honest they last forever with the right care and you don't need to hurt anything to do it so it has to pay off in the end
Their spazzy fucked up movements and overall gross look scare the shit out of me. It's not an issue of whether they're dirty but some people like me have straight up phobias of the things.NotALiberal said:
the moment machines evolve to the point of knowing my name without me entering it anywhere on the site, it would be mostly scary. this way, it's only awesome and funny.Boudica said:
(captcha: you're welcome
NOW it's getting a little scary)