Retail games

[Leoofmoon]

Ok so Iv been thinking about retail games recently and there relation to games, and iv seen 2 sides of this debate.

On one side there are people who HATE retail brick and mortar stores with a pation Places like EB games, Games stops and whatever other retale stores that Buy,sell and trade games. This people iv noticed are mostly PC gamers.
And i don't get why! Steam, Origan, gamesergate and they new Sony download system are all the different ways you can download games without leaving your house and it will take you a few minutes to download depending on your internet. You can bring up Pre order bonuses but even those don't matter most people made a HUGE deal about the pre order shotgun in Bad company but it was USELESS! I still don't see why games hate retail games.

On the other side of the debate there are people who LOVE retail(I.E. Console gamers and I am not afraid to say i may be amunge them. Now im not 100% on this iv seen gamestop pull some BS out with people returning games a day old or really old and cool systems for barely a quarter of the price, I hate that. But at the same some if i have a bad game i hate then shouldn't i at lest get some money back? instead of the retailers going "no you bought no tack backs! hahaha" If you look at it buying a product your sure of at a used price of 10-25% off is better then a full price and at gamestop if you don't like the game for a week you get your full money back.

But i want to know how the community fells about Retail games, Used games and also the dreaded Online pass. Please leave a comment and ill respond if i can.

 

[Leoofmoon]

Also anyone have a idea when the PSN will be back up?

 

[Varitel]

I have no problem with retail stores. If it's nice outside, I actually rather enjoy getting in my car and driving out to a store to buy something. Then again, on a few occasions, if I wanted a game the day it came out, then I would pre-order it and get it shipped to me. However, for StarCraft II, my brother and I actually went to a Best Buy and bought the game shortly after midnight since neither of us had anything to do that night anyway.

 

[veloper]

If you must have a new physical copy, mailorder is usually better than going to shops, when it comes to pricing and catalogue.
If used, deal with the gamer willing to part with his game for a measly 5 or 10 bucks he'd get at the store, instead of paying the shop 50 or 55.

 

[Dendio]

Steam is so much more convenient. Once I found out you had access to game manuals through steam I was sold. Holding a physical box when you first buy it is awesome but after a while it becomes a hindrance. The box becomes a pain to pack every time you go somewhere and cds are annoying to keep organized and on hand. Im hoping the next consoles feature a pure download option.

 

[Leoofmoon]

I posted a thread a few days ago regarding the prices at some retail stores and whether they were increasing, the general consensus was that it seems to be the way they are going.

The example I had was that Dead Island was being sold for £47.99 (that's £8 more than usual for those not in the UK), with sports titles going to £44.99 (a price usually only reserved for the latest installment of CoD). If that's going to be the case from now on, there is no way I'll be buying games from Brick 'n Mortar stores. I still prefer to have the physical copy of the disc though, so I would be buying from online games retailers.

As for Steam etc, I find it handy in a pinch if I'm busting to play something, but if the box isn't on my shelf, I don't feel like I have the game (if that makes any sense)

Used games are in the same bracket, if I can't find it elsewhere new for a similar price, I'll buy used. Only if I really want the game though

Gamestop will do that iv seen some new games at the Sell of $75-$60 but i haven't seen it recently that was mainly at the start of 2011

 

[Leoofmoon]

Steam is so much more convenient. Once I found out you had access to game manuals through steam I was sold. Holding a physical box when you first buy it is awesome but after a while it becomes a hindrance. The box becomes a pain to pack every time you go somewhere and cds are annoying to keep organized and on hand. Im hoping the next consoles feature a pure download option.

Yes but then again there a problem witch most PC games don't get I have a laptop and its ok with gameing and im working to get a better one, but the fact is Consoles are way cheeper then to keep upgrading a PC, for instance i just got DC univers online my laptops would have NO way of runing that! but with my PS3 i can and yes it is more convenient to get a digital copy but I'm kinda a collector where i LOVE getting the boxes.

 

[Azure-Supernova]

These days shops like GAME and GameStation serve as walk-in catalog. I'll have a look around, see what's new and what's going. I'll usually compare it to prices online while I'm there and most likely I'll walk out empty handed. The only time I buy things games from shops if is there's a good pre-order bonus running, like Uncharted 3's at GAME.

 

[dickywebster]

I prefer hard copies of games, that way i know ill definitaly be able to play them!

 

[Davidm4]

The option to trade in games at retail stores is the only reason why I like them. I managed to trade in a game that I never opened for almost the full retail value, allowing me enough to buy a brand new game.

 

[Rednog]

I don't like retail stores because there's always someone who walks up to you and pesters you. Hey do you need help finding anything today?
No, thanks.
Have you heard about our rewards card.
No, I'm cool, thanks.
Hey we have a bunch of games that you can preorder.
Seriously, I'm fine, I just want this game and I want to go.
Hey did you know if you traded in an older game you have you can get this game for cheaper?
Die in a fire....

I stopped going to retail stores about 4 years ago, the straw that broke the camel's back was walking into a gamestop, asking for a WoW card, the guy behind the counter going "No, I'm not going to ring just this up, you have to pre-order something, buy an edge card, or buy a used game." I was like wtf? And he responded "I'm serious." I said ok, took the wow game card box, walked to the xbox used section and pointed at them and asked, "so I have to get one of these?" "Yup" I held the card box out and walked across the shelf knocking down the row of games, walked back to the counter put $30 on the counter for the WoW card and walked out of the store.

 

[zfactor]

I prefer retail because I like rows of boxes and tend to not sell back. And any download stuff uses online DRM, so I can't play them if civilization collapses...

 

[Leoofmoon]

I don't like retail stores because there's always someone who walks up to you and pesters you. Hey do you need help finding anything today?
No, thanks.
Have you heard about our rewards card.
No, I'm cool, thanks.
Hey we have a bunch of games that you can preorder.
Seriously, I'm fine, I just want this game and I want to go.
Hey did you know if you traded in an older game you have you can get this game for cheaper?
Die in a fire....

I stopped going to retail stores about 4 years ago, the straw that broke the camel's back was walking into a gamestop, asking for a WoW card, the guy behind the counter going "No, I'm not going to ring just this up, you have to pre-order something, buy an edge card, or buy a used game." I was like wtf? And he responded "I'm serious." I said ok, took the wow game card box, walked to the xbox used section and pointed at them and asked, "so I have to get one of these?" "Yup" I held the card box out and walked across the shelf knocking down the row of games, walked back to the counter put $30 on the counter for the WoW card and walked out of the store.

How come im the only one who have nice employes at my gamestop?

 

[Rednog]

I don't like retail stores because there's always someone who walks up to you and pesters you. Hey do you need help finding anything today?
No, thanks.
Have you heard about our rewards card.
No, I'm cool, thanks.
Hey we have a bunch of games that you can preorder.
Seriously, I'm fine, I just want this game and I want to go.
Hey did you know if you traded in an older game you have you can get this game for cheaper?
Die in a fire....

I stopped going to retail stores about 4 years ago, the straw that broke the camel's back was walking into a gamestop, asking for a WoW card, the guy behind the counter going "No, I'm not going to ring just this up, you have to pre-order something, buy an edge card, or buy a used game." I was like wtf? And he responded "I'm serious." I said ok, took the wow game card box, walked to the xbox used section and pointed at them and asked, "so I have to get one of these?" "Yup" I held the card box out and walked across the shelf knocking down the row of games, walked back to the counter put $30 on the counter for the WoW card and walked out of the store.

How come im the only one who have nice employes at my gamestop?

I've worked in a gamestop and I've met nice gamestop employees, most of the nicer ones tend to be the one with less traffic because they need every customer they can get, the ones with high traffic like in malls or college campuses tend to be huge twats because they have enough people coming and going to not care and the younger kids tend to treat them like gaming geniuses. Seriously just hang out at a mall around a gamestop and see how many kids try to get the attention of an employee and try to chat them up for as long as they can.

 

[Leoofmoon]

Grammar nazi moment: OP, it should be "among", not "amunge".

On topic: I like my games to be physically there, or I just have this strange feeling. Like I don't actually own them. This isn't so bad for XBLA games, but having Games on Demand on the hard drive is weird. The Steam games that I have on my laptop are different, for some reason. I play them a good bit and I don't get that feeling. Maybe it's that they're hidden on a menu with the Xbox and they're right there on the desktop with the PC? I dunno.

What I'm trying to say is that the prospect of having no physical games, only digital ones, is a prospect that I could get used to, but not one that I really care to see.

Plus, there's the obvious disadvantage that games and movies have that other mediums don't: space. Resistance: Fall of Man is 17GB, and that's an early PS3 game. I've also heard reports of the 4 terabytes of data that id has for RAGE - nowhere near all of that is being used, but it's still a massive amount. I don't want to have to delete old stuff to make space for more, because I have a bad habit of revisiting old games and I'd have to redownload them on my slowass connection. With the massive size of these games, that could mean waiting days to play an old game for about an hour or two, if that.

For the online pass, though, refer to Jim Sterling. I have officially changed my once-low opinion of that man. Especially with that badass chain-sword-thingy he had last week.

"They say the pen is mightier than the sword. Well, this is what I write with."

That was so, so funny.

Thanks for that Im dislexic and i got firefox recently to help me.

But oi do know that there is a advantage to owning digital and physical copy's of a game and i Don't really hate or cheer or ether side of this argument because planly i find it just balls out restarted. It just seams to be Pc games wine about it more then console gamers do.

As for online passes I do too at times i see where online passes are guuf but there SUCH a bother and i rent a lot of games I'm unsure of buying and well 5 bucks for a title I'm unsure off for a week sounds awesome, but add 20 to that or 10 then its just not worth it. I hurts the industry more then it helps i do understand they need to make money out of used games but there HAS to be a easier way.

 

[Leoofmoon]

I don't like retail stores because there's always someone who walks up to you and pesters you. Hey do you need help finding anything today?
No, thanks.
Have you heard about our rewards card.
No, I'm cool, thanks.
Hey we have a bunch of games that you can preorder.
Seriously, I'm fine, I just want this game and I want to go.
Hey did you know if you traded in an older game you have you can get this game for cheaper?
Die in a fire....

I stopped going to retail stores about 4 years ago, the straw that broke the camel's back was walking into a gamestop, asking for a WoW card, the guy behind the counter going "No, I'm not going to ring just this up, you have to pre-order something, buy an edge card, or buy a used game." I was like wtf? And he responded "I'm serious." I said ok, took the wow game card box, walked to the xbox used section and pointed at them and asked, "so I have to get one of these?" "Yup" I held the card box out and walked across the shelf knocking down the row of games, walked back to the counter put $30 on the counter for the WoW card and walked out of the store.

How come im the only one who have nice employes at my gamestop?

I've worked in a gamestop and I've met nice gamestop employees, most of the nicer ones tend to be the one with less traffic because they need every customer they can get, the ones with high traffic like in malls or college campuses tend to be huge twats because they have enough people coming and going to not care and the younger kids tend to treat them like gaming geniuses. Seriously just hang out at a mall around a gamestop and see how many kids try to get the attention of an employee and try to chat them up for as long as they can.

I hang out at mine talking to the employes for about a hour or 2 about games or any other topic that comes up most people are friendly and if they don't know you as a regular they just ask "can i help you today" i don't know maybe its just the air is Oklahoma that makes everyone nice.

 

[kaioshade]

I will go to gamestop, but rarely to buy anything other than the odd accessory or two. I do not usually buy games on release day, and i find that Amazon suits my needs (and prices) fine.

Unfortunately gamestop employees are under some very harsh conditions. Their jobs are often on the line for getting preorders, used game sales, etc. While that does not excuse the behavior of some employees, i do understand why they do it.