Return Of Kings celebrate 'making The Force Awakens lose $4.2 mil'

[OneCatch]

https://twitter.com/ReturnOfKings/status/681520510937636864

So after they 'exposed' The Force Awakens as 'SJW propaganda', they believe they have cost the Force Awakens $4.2 million in lost ticket sales.

Great victory dudes, I'm sure Disney will really miss that $4.2 million from the billion dollars + they've already made.

(changed title as ROK is technically not an MRA site)

That's fucking hilarious.
The way they've come up with that figure is based on a twitter poll, in which 55% of 565 votes said that reading RoK had 'affected' their decision to see the film. They then extrapolated that against 900k site viewers, multiplied by a ticket price to arrive at the figure. Some thoughts:
-Vague question is vague. 'Affected decision' does not mean 'did not go to see film'
-The poll was on Twitter and they're using that against site traffic stats. Non-sequiter
-Even disregarding the above, 565 responses against 900k users suggests a low level of interest at best

Really, this is fantastic. If this kind of statistics is taken seriously now I can finally prove that homeopathy works, that I'm the world's best lover, and that I literally cure cancer through presence alone.

 

[johnnyLupine]

MRA's celebrate 'making The Force Awakens lose $4.2 mil'

I mean seriously these guys think that was a serious hit to a fucking Star Wars movie. talk about sore losers. this sounds like something a Saturday morning cartoon villain would say after he was defeated.

Wait, I remember a news article around November that was bleating this kind of shit, but I thought someone ended up doing some more due diligence and found that it was just one Twitter or blog runner that was firing shit at a wall. Are these clowns for fucking real?

that was a prank I believe but from what I've heard some people did take it seriously. Poe's law in full effect here.

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https://twitter.com/ReturnOfKings/status/681520510937636864

So after they 'exposed' The Force Awakens as 'SJW propaganda', they believe they have cost the Force Awakens $4.2 million in lost ticket sales.

Great victory dudes, I'm sure Disney will really miss that $4.2 million from the billion dollars + they've already made.

Whatever they are, those guys are fucking paranoid jokes.
How did they arrive at that number, anyway? Because I could pull a number from my ass and say they made $40 million because of their diverse cast

But yeah, I scrolled through their twitter page and they are a literal fucking joke, good for a laugh

Spoiler: I found this the most hilarious

I mean these guys have their heads so far up their own asses especially since I've heard no one complain about sjw type messages in this film. they only have a black guy and a woman in it (like the original trilogy).

Lando wasn't really a main character and stabbed han in the back, not the best thing to do, he brought it back but leia was certainly more of a hero although the only thing I remember happening is her choking Jabba (outside of the general damsel in distress stuff)

None of this stuff really matters though, if Disney wants to make some new characters and have them be black of a woman or whatever and be a hero (not seen the movie yet plan on going tomorrow assuming not too hungover). The problem comes when people change existing characters etc.

 

[Fdzzaigl]

I don't care.

I don't care what these people say, what they think, what they say they think. I don't care to hate these people, when I read their article I was like: "I don't fracking care about anything you say", after the first sentence. I just don't give a damn about any sort of twitter / internet rage movement.

Not a single frack.

Actually, why the frack am I here? *Flies away*

 

[DireOwl]

This whole thing is weird. They are just assuming that everyone who read their article was convinced to not see the movie?
I read their article and still saw the movie. I don't agree with their conclusion. Besides this article and a single chan troll on twitter (which the media was all to quick to try and hold up as an entire white male demographic)I haven't seen anyone complaining about the new characters sex and race. The movie was far from perfect, but it had nothing to so with the physical appearance of the characters.

 

[Loonyyy]

Read their numbers.

They're dirty, dirty liars.

They did a twitter poll with 565 respondents for their figure, and then applied it to the people who accessed ROK (Not necessarily people who read the article) and they assumed that their poll is representative. It is not. The people who respond to an ROK twitter poll already follow, and are "engaged" in internet marketting parlance, by ROK. They can't be assumed to represent everyone. The idea that this actually cost them that is ridiculous. In statistics and probability this is what is called a biased sample. Selection bias. The respondents to their poll were already people who followed and responded to ROK on twitter. This is why in all of those studies I see the keen anti-science crowd dismissing, you use a random sample, because otherwise you cannot make any prediction about the whole population.

Far more telling is that among people engaged with ROK, which means, basically, violent misogynists(Read their site, and you should agree), 45% were still willing to put up with a woman and a black man leading them around the galaxy of Star Wars once again. This from "Women shouldn't work" "Why you should date an anorexic" and "Slut face, you either recognize it or you don't" or "In America it would be rape, but sex is what I do" (I'm paraphrasing them, these are all things they've said, but the exact wording escapes me, and giving them more clicks to represent through dishonest statistics can go fuck itself).

I doubt that even the complete dirtbags at ROK are so immune to Star Wars. The idea that they cost them that much is absurd. Every prequel made money, even though they were hated by many. People came back, even for Revenge of the Sith, after being burned twice. I highly doubt anyone who was interested in Star Wars was turned away by the news that there would be *gasp* vaginas and melanin in this one.

 

[IamLEAM1983]

So Return of Kings are stupid enough to consider that this amounts to anything?

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The mind boggles. That is all.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

Sorry to be ignorant, but what is MRA? As for making it lose 4.2 million, pretty sure Disney won't be quaking over that amount.

MRA stands for men's rights activists. I think they recently rebranded to meninists though. They usually have good intentions, though they can be shortsighted, and usually resort to blaming feminists for their issues without looking at the larger picture.

I thought the meninist thing was introduced as satire that people took way too seriously. Basically a means of trolling whilst making a point.

If you're happy paying 4 billion for a license it is pretty unlikely that a hypothetical 4 million is of any concern.

 

[Zontar]

I thought the meninist thing was introduced as satire that people took way too seriously. Basically a means of trolling whilst making a point.

Meninism is in fact satire that's only taken seriously by people who aren't meninists, the entire idea being men acting like feminists.

Men's Rights Activists are a different group that, in many cases, are fighting for the legal rights of men such as equal treatment by the courts and an end to both government discrimination in program funding and legal backing to hiring discrimination.

The two are separate groups.

 

[Falling_v1legacy]

Oh Return of Kings... their articles are pretty neat: "As we know, women are essentially large children" summarizing their repost of RooshV's article "This was eloquently described by German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer in his important essay On Women. He described them as overgrown children, a comparison that any man who has dated more than a dozen of them can quickly agree to after having consistently witnessed their impulsive and illogical behavior firsthand."

Cute.

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

Oh Return of Kings... their articles are pretty neat: "As we know, women are essentially large children" summarizing their repost of RooshV's article "This was eloquently described by German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer in his important essay On Women. He described them as overgrown children, a comparison that any man who has dated more than a dozen of them can quickly agree to after having consistently witnessed their impulsive and illogical behavior firsthand."

Cute.

Over grown children as an insult from Star Wars fans? Man, the irony fairy must have had a dozen strokes from that alone.

 

[Jadak]

Err.. 72 retweets? Granted it's more than what I'd get should I tweet something, but still sounds like this these are nobodies.

More importantly, they had under 600 votes with a 55% vote result supporting their belief, and are just deciding that it's legit to extrapolate that figure to their supposed 900,000. It's not.

At best, I'd be surprised if they actually had any sort of impact on more than a few hundred ticket sales, at most.

Of course, even if you accept their interpretation of the poll results, the poll doesn't actually say "I didn't see the movie and you were the reason". Rather, it just says "affected your decision". So really, that doesn't mean anything more than you made people think about your points and that they're willing to admit as much, you didn't ask if they boycotted the thing as a result.

 

[gLoveofLove]

Even though Return of Kings( Or whatever their name is) says they dislike MRAs, they're are a great example of what to expect.

Isn't this like saying Marxists claim they hate Liberals, but they're a great example of what to expect?

Pretty much. One of the very first articles on their page is literally "10 things my dog taught me about women".

That has nothing to do with MRAs though. That only reflects on RoK.

 

[Erttheking]

So apparently they barely reached more than a few hundred people. And they say they cost Star Wars 4.2 million?

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Some people really are pathetic enough to think that they need to take every chance they can to keep the big mean feminists (Are SJWs feminists? The definition is so non-existent I don't know anymore) from winning don't they.

Also, SJW propaganda? Star Wars. OH NOES! We've been found out! Quick! To the Anita-mobile!

 

[MCerberus]

TFA I can actually see really scaring that particular brand of internet moron.
The main character is female. It's accepted and not commented on.
The audience insert is black. It's accepted and not commented on.
There's an interracial romance starting. It's accepted and not commented on.

For people that hold extremely regressive views, this can not only scream "teh culture warz!" but show that they've already lost.

 

[kuolonen]

Putting aside if they actually managed to really achieve that, lot of people here seem to be inclined to think that Disney et al just laugh at losing measly 4.2 mil. Are you guys really sure that is true? Because personally I'd think lot of corp. executives would see people dead for just 1 mil profit alone. The greed of any big business has no limit.

Of course they care about lost profits but they also understand that if they need to choose between the mainstream ideology versus some backward obscure internet one, they'd choose mainstream to maximize income. That lost 4.2 mil was accepted casualty when weighted against the potential profits of catering to culture of acceptance, diversity and equality.

 

[Davroth]

I think I find it more funny that people got it into their heads that Star Wars 7 is some kind of feminist movie. I guess certain feminist blogs just really needed something to latch onto, and a female lead character and complete Mary Sue who couldn't still couldn't escape the prominent female gender tropes had to do. This backlash by their direct opposition on the other hand is so by the numbers that I'm absolutely bored by it. Who ever took those people seriously?

 

[TwistednMean]

Clickbait title. Not cool, OP. Return of Kings is a PUA site that spews out homophobic BS on a regular basis. No one cares what they think about Star Wars.

 

[Leg End]

Literally who?

Great victory dudes, I'm sure Disney will really miss that $4.2 million from the billion dollars + they've already made.

Eh, it can add up. They do want all of the monies after all.

How did they know it was 4.2, not 4.1 or 4.3?

D20 roll?

And yeah, echoing Zontar, they openly state that they are not part of the MRM. They may look much the same to outsiders, and in many ways they were, but that's like saying Hitler and Stalin were the same.

(Before anyone says it, I don't expect Return of Kings to annex bits of Poland or anything, just using those two are examples of mutually hostile ideologies that seem similar)

The joke would have been better if you left who was who ambiguous.

lol Return Of Kings.

There may be dumber places on the internet, but I've not seen them.

I repeat, literally who?
Also, you've possibly just not been searching deep enough, which is a good thing.

Yea verily thou art at thoest's manliest when thousts celebrate drawing a single drop of blood from thine enemy. Hip hip huzzah for the Kings!

It'd be better to think of it as being able to do any kind of damage to a giant like Disney, which if we were talking about a company that didn't regularly shit gold, 4.2 million would be considered a large sum. Whether they actually DID that much in financial damage, is impossible to tell.

Spoiler

They didn't.

Also can someone explain to me what the balls PUA or MGTOW means?

 

[The Jovian]

stop reading them you're giving them money with your clicks.

No I'm not. Two words: "Ad" and "Block". I'm not adblocking YouTube or the Escapist or sites I care about though.