Revolutionary Info Dump Officially Heralds Assassin's Creed III

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I thought it was interesting that American generals of the 1770s apparently liked to give speeches mid-battle while on the frontlines.
 

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Also I'm not sure who's training these people, but their outfit just blends in less and less. Altair looked ok, a bit fancy, but didn't stand out THAT much, Ezzio looked even more like a peacock than the rest of renascence Italy (no small feat) and this guy is just asking for trouble... I mean I get we're supposed to show some suspension of disbelief, but c'mon, you're telling me he's going around dressed like THAT and guards don't spot him from half the town away?
Um.... notice how there's snow... and he's an Assassin (discretion is the name of the game).... and snow also happens to be white! Ahem... thats enough problem solving for the day eh!
Yeah, because all the game will be played in a snow-covered forest. Assassin's creed in some sort of city? That's just silly! Since you're being a dick, how about you notice all that blue that really blends in with the snow.
 

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Now that's quite a declaration if I do say so myself.
Hehehe. Seriously though, is that supposed to be George Washington in the trailer?
He looks like a blur with the worst wig ever so far, new engine bluster aside :p
 

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That trailer was the UK version, yes because that is going to go down GREAT with us Brits. The whole 'we escape slavery to fight for freedom' stuff will turn off a few people. Lots of people I know (avid fans of Assasins Creed, except maybe Revelations) either don't want to get it because they're wary of an anti-British sentiment.
 

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AssCreed games really don't do it for me, but I like the fact that they've finally gone for a new context. I was kinda hoping for something a little more obscure, but hey, running around snowy forests in the American Revolution with tomohawks sounds pretty neat. That, and I fully expect half the game's narrative to revolve around Rat-on-hackie-tun becoming an assassin because he got sick of arguing with social security officials who turned down his welfare payment applications because he refused to write out his name without punctuation.
 

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Yeah, UbiSoft needs to show him going after Americans as well. The King may not be a Templar, but his generals and commanders may be and are trying to throw the war in order to create a country ruled by the Templars. Once that (ideally) comes forward then the anti-British sentiment should die off. I just hope that they get to that quickly.
 

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Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
 
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Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
 

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Looks pretty cool. But how are the Brits going to feel about this? Aren't a lot of Escapist members in the UK?
 

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itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
 
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Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
 

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itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I played the original.
 

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I'm still kinda sick about the yearly AC game drop. I haven't even started playing Revelations or even completely finished the second one. I love AC, but come on.

At any rate, I say this guy blends in quite well with the environment, what with the blue coat from those soldiers and the white and the snow. But my first impression was that this guy's only reason for being half British is so that he can wear a coat without looking out of place. But we'll see when the game is released.
 
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Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I played the original.
Perfectly understandable. I actually thought it was a shame that they so immediately got rid of the idea of removing the ring finger to show dedication and whatnot, it was kind of a cool idea. I can see why the assassins would want to remove such a practice though, I wouldn't want to chop off a finger, especially with the medical practices of these periods of time.
 

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itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I played the original.
Perfectly understandable. I actually thought it was a shame that they so immediately got rid of the idea of removing the ring finger to show dedication and whatnot, it was kind of a cool idea. I can see why the assassins would want to remove such a practice though, I wouldn't want to chop off a finger, especially with the medical practices of these periods of time.
Given that Altiar was Muslim? Honestly, the medical practices in Islamic lands were centuries ahead of their Catholic contemporaries. And if the cauterized the stump to prevent bleeding that would pretty nicely explain the lack of infection. Though I could certainly see why Ezio wouldn't be as inclined to part with a random finger.
 
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Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I played the original.
Perfectly understandable. I actually thought it was a shame that they so immediately got rid of the idea of removing the ring finger to show dedication and whatnot, it was kind of a cool idea. I can see why the assassins would want to remove such a practice though, I wouldn't want to chop off a finger, especially with the medical practices of these periods of time.
Given that Altiar was Muslim? Honestly, the medical practices in Islamic lands were centuries ahead of their Catholic contemporaries. And if the cauterized the stump to prevent bleeding that would pretty nicely explain the lack of infection. Though I could certainly see why Ezio wouldn't be as inclined to part with a random finger.
I seriously doubt Altair was a Muslim due to the fact that he comes into contact with the "god(s)" represented in every religion since the beginning of time and they tell him exactly why they are worshiped as gods. I was more referring to Ezio's issue although I would argue that any form of amputation would still be fairly dangerous and painful during that time period.
 

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itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I played the original.
Perfectly understandable. I actually thought it was a shame that they so immediately got rid of the idea of removing the ring finger to show dedication and whatnot, it was kind of a cool idea. I can see why the assassins would want to remove such a practice though, I wouldn't want to chop off a finger, especially with the medical practices of these periods of time.
Given that Altiar was Muslim? Honestly, the medical practices in Islamic lands were centuries ahead of their Catholic contemporaries. And if the cauterized the stump to prevent bleeding that would pretty nicely explain the lack of infection. Though I could certainly see why Ezio wouldn't be as inclined to part with a random finger.
I seriously doubt Altair was a Muslim due to the fact that he comes into contact with the "god(s)" represented in every religion since the beginning of time and they tell him exactly why they are worshiped as gods. I was more referring to Ezio's issue although I would argue that any form of amputation would still be fairly dangerous and painful during that time period.
The Assassins[footnote]I don't remember the precise spelling, but it's the root of the modern word "assassin".[/footnote], like the Templar are an actual historical footnote. Much like the Templar they're warped beyond recognition by the series, but going off that...

The Assassins were Islamic extremists, who attacked fellow Muslims for failure to be devout enough, and was something of a fringe element. I can see if I can dig up something more coherent if you want the full background, but in general, it's a pretty safe statement that Altiar is a Muslim (at least was one prior to the events of the game).
 
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Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
itsausernamewhatofit said:
Starke said:
Anyone else find it strange that he's got all his fingers? I thought one of the major bits from the Series was that the assassins lopped off one of their ring fingers to facilitate the hidden blade...
That part was eliminated in Assassin's Creed 2, It hasn't been necessary for a long time.
I thought what's'er name in the Desmond sequences in 1 was missing a ring finger as well... or was that just retconned as random coincidence.
Nope she had all 10 fingers. She bends one finger to signal Desmond that she is an assassin at one point though.
I stand corrected. It's been a long time since I played the original.
Perfectly understandable. I actually thought it was a shame that they so immediately got rid of the idea of removing the ring finger to show dedication and whatnot, it was kind of a cool idea. I can see why the assassins would want to remove such a practice though, I wouldn't want to chop off a finger, especially with the medical practices of these periods of time.
Given that Altiar was Muslim? Honestly, the medical practices in Islamic lands were centuries ahead of their Catholic contemporaries. And if the cauterized the stump to prevent bleeding that would pretty nicely explain the lack of infection. Though I could certainly see why Ezio wouldn't be as inclined to part with a random finger.
I seriously doubt Altair was a Muslim due to the fact that he comes into contact with the "god(s)" represented in every religion since the beginning of time and they tell him exactly why they are worshiped as gods. I was more referring to Ezio's issue although I would argue that any form of amputation would still be fairly dangerous and painful during that time period.
The Assassins, like the Templar are an actual historical footnote. Much like the Templar they're warped beyond recognition by the series, but going off that...

The Assassins were Islamic extremists, who attacked fellow Muslims for failure to be devout enough, and was something of a fringe element. I can see if I can dig up something more coherent if you want the full background, but in general, it's a pretty safe statement that Altiar is a Muslim (at least was one prior to the events of the game).
Alright, fair enough I guess it makes sense for Altair to be a Muslim at least at some point. The crux of the issue remains that an amputation would still be dangerous and incredibly uncomfortable whether you believe in a higher being or not and I could see why they would want to do away with the tradition. I'm not sure how the Muslim religion really factors into this other than the fact that he would have been from a place with medical practices that were advanced for their time. Also according to the lore of Assassin's Creed the assassins are spread across the globe thus many places would not have this level of understanding in medicine. I'm really not trying to argue with you here, I'm not sure there's really much for us to dispute at this point.