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I built mine 2 weeks ago and I'm running Diablo 3, Tera, Battlefield 3, and Skyrim on the highest settings and it runs smooth as hell :) and the 23 inch monitor gives me 1920x1080 which looks FREAKING awesome, all in all I spent $946 on it so with $1500 I imagine you'll be running a missile base and launching rockets into space right?

btw, play Kerbal Space Program seeing the little guys pummeling to their doom in my monstrosities is AMAZING!!!
 

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Matthew94 said:
Because this is an IPS monitor.

I'll take "merely" 1080P for some of that IPS goodness.

OT It's nice some approve of my build and I'm glad so many people are helping out the OP> It's a really refreshing thread.
If you're talking about In Plane Switching [Just to be sure] - these monitors have it too, or they say they do and from experience viewing from any angle maintains colour, and touching the screen does not result in a splot of colour or W/E.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Yamakasi-Catleap-Q270-27-LED-2560x1440-WQHD-S-IPS-Widescreen-Monitor-/150788045871?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item231baafc2f
Wouldn't take that as the best offer or the best seller, but its the one I got from a quick Ebay search. As for the reliability of the screen and shipping - my friends and I will vouch for that from a couple of sellers on Ebay, in case you're worried about it coming from Korea.

As I said, limited to 60 Htz without OC, but for a 2560*1440 68.47cm Monitor, its not bad.
 

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GZGoten said:
so with $1500 I imagine you'll be running a missile base and launching rockets into space right?

btw, play Kerbal Space Program seeing the little guys pummeling to their doom in my monstrosities is AMAZING!!!
There are actually USB attachments for that. True office warfare.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/warfare/8a0f/
There's also one for I-pods and the like.

But yeah, other than that I'm in about the same boat as you, though I built mine 2 months ago and I got a higher res monitor. Sadly though Noctua just increased their fan prices thanks to Corsair's higher prices. F***. [On the upside I managed to get most of mine before this, and its only a $5 or so price increase. But still...]
 

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Matthew94 said:
Palfreyfish said:
Currently no monitor at all, it's the last thing on the list of parts, seeing as I've already got an -alright- one here. Recommendations?

I also have to go for the night, but I'll be back tomorrow at some point. Thanks for the help :)
No problem :D

Well, when you see this tomorrow. What kind of budget would you have for the monitor or would you only know post build?
Hmmm, I'd have a rough estimate after the build, but that won't be for some months now, and as I already have a monitor it's not going to be urgent, so can you point me towards something that you would recommend, preferably in the 25-27 inch size area? Thanks :)
 

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Matthew94 said:
IPS has more than just viewing angles, like having fucking amazing colour :D

I don't trust the look of that monitor at all. 2560x1440 S-IPS for a tad over $300? Something seems wrong for them to be able to sell them at that price. For comparison here is the price of the equivalent Dell. [http://www.amazon.com/Dell-UltraSharp-U2711-27-inch-Widescreen/dp/B0039648BO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339662735&sr=8-1] $783.90

I mean, how could they half the price from that? And that is the Amazon US price, the UK price is much higher and so is directly from Dell.

That being said the one review I can see for it is positive and there is a 130 page thread on overclock.net about buying one... Apart from that the monitors are virtually unknown.

I don't know, something doesn't seem right. I mean, why are they an ebay seller only? I don't deny that it could be legitimate but it screams "too good to be true".
Yeah, those were my thoughts too. As I've said, I can verify that at least one seller is legitimate [I'll have to check up on a friend who just bought the first one he found on E-bay before I can verify two], but I know 3 people that have the monitor, and thus far no problems.
This store:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Yamakasi-Catleap-27-LED-2560x1440-WQHD-S-IPS-Widescreen-Monitor-Q270-SE-/140729187593?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item20c41cfd09#ht_16353wt_1164
Has sent across 3 to people I know and they've come through with no problems. In addition, for one they failed to send it within 1 week due to a new operator being in charge of the sale, and after being contacted they offered a $25 price drop as compensation [Credited to Paypal].

I've seen quite a few discussions on OC.net discussing them, if not directly about them. There tends to be a number of people supporting and against the monitors, each with valid points. An extract from one slightly explains the low price:
Variants of these monitors are all ~$400 2560x1440, 27" IPS monitors sold in Korea, not the US. They retail for ~$250 in S. Korea. In other words, they're $700-$1000 monitors for 1/2 the price.
So I'm guessing possibly cheap labour in Korea, as well as lack of anti-glare coating [Which can be either a pro or a con, but I'm going to hazard a guess that it costs more], and the fact that there can be up to five dead pixels [Perfect Pixel versions are generally $60-$100 more expensive, and then there are tempered glass versions and such that add more to the price]. Its also 8 bit native, with 8 bit dithering to 10 bit variants for more cost.
Not sure how its specs match up to the U2711, though its half the price and from what seems to be a very reliable seller [Personal experience + E-bay ratings].

It certainly sounds too good to be true, and there's no way of knowing if something will go wrong for an individual, or what the quality of the screen will be when it arrives, but everyone I know that has bought one, and a majority of online users, have had a very good experience with them, take that as you will.

Edit: Reading more threads on OC.net there seems to be a "Lucky Dip" of sorts for dead pixels. Some noticed some, some didn't. For reference, there are 3,686,400 pixels on screen. Obviously clusters of dead ones will be noticeable, more spread out ones probably will not.
Also some reports of slight backlight bleeding at times.
 

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Matthew94 said:
In that case I may look out for one of these when I get a new monitor.

I just got this [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dell-2007FP-Ultrasharp-20-1-Monitor/dp/B0031U1AE6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1339675785&sr=8-1] a few weeks ago and it's great. It's actually the S-IPS version (dell runs a panel lottery with some being VA and some being S-IPS, all the ones the seller had were S-IPS) so I'm set for now.

What I love about it is it's 1600x1200 so tons of older games support the resolution unlike 1920x1080. That and it has 1200 vertical pixels, suck it 1080P users :D

Now that I have used IPS I cannot go back, I don't think it would be worth it. It's an expensive taste though...
Haha nice!
I've always liked the more square monitors better for some reason, no idea why. One of my old monitors was 1280*1024, and it felt a little odd moving to widescreen.

And yeah, when first hearing about IPS I was a bit sceptical about whether it would actually be worth it or not, seeing as I'm always facing straight at my monitor anyway, and everything's always looked fine to me as far as colour is concerned, but once you get IPS... instantly dislike using any other screens now - especially my laptop one [As if it wouldn't be the obvious bad one :p]. Since they've got a glossy backing I just sit them on my desk and have that reflect my new screen, rather than trying to get an angle set up on them for viewing and still not having it look as good as the few IPS monitors I've had.

Shame everything that's good is so damn expensive. That's the way of the world though sadly...
 

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The HP ZR2740W can be had for as low as $680 which isn't bad.

I've been dreaming of getting a Dell U2711, though... mmm... 27" 2560x1440 goodness...

I'm very happy with my current monitor, honestly I've never seen a better non-IPS display. Actually for all I know it is IPS, all I can find is that it's "TFT Active Matrix" which according to wikipedia includes TN, IPS, S-IPS, etc.

It does list that it can display 16.7 million colours though with 5ms GTG and 170° viewing angle.
 

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Matthew94 said:
Wolfram23 said:
The HP ZR2740W can be had for as low as $680 which isn't bad.

I've been dreaming of getting a Dell U2711, though... mmm... 27" 2560x1440 goodness...

I'm very happy with my current monitor, honestly I've never seen a better non-IPS display. Actually for all I know it is IPS, all I can find is that it's "TFT Active Matrix" which according to wikipedia includes TN, IPS, S-IPS, etc.

It does list that it can display 16.7 million colours though with 5ms GTG and 170° viewing angle.
8 bit and 6 bit both show 16.7 million but the 6 bit panels (TN monitors) use dithering to achieve that figure and from what I have read it's actually closer to 16.2 though they rarely list that.

Do you know what model yours is?


I know 10 bit panels have about 1.07 billion colours. :/ Makes the rest seem a bit inferior...
Samsung 2494SW

And yeah, 6 bit is only 16.2 or so million so I'm not sure why they list 16.7. But it also has very good view angles, I know from experience it is great side to side, it's only vertical that it loses some brightness so I actually have it tilted forward a bit.
 

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Matthew94 said:
From what I see on newegg [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001338&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&PageSize=10&SelectedRating=-1&VideoOnlyMark=False&IsFeedbackTab=true#scrollFullInfo] it is indeed a TN. That being said it had a 5 star rating here (and in other places) so it must have been a quality monitor (as you said).

You were right about the viewing angles too.

Viewing Angle
170°(H) / 160°(V)

It's 10 degrees less vertically than horizontally.
Werd. I seem to get lucky that way sometimes. I bought it without doing much research, it was just on sale like $20 off and seemed good on display lol. Phew!

I've learned a fair bit about monitors since then, though. Won't be doing that again.
 

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Matthew94 said:
Palfreyfish said:
Hmmm, I'd have a rough estimate after the build, but that won't be for some months now, and as I already have a monitor it's not going to be urgent, so can you point me towards something that you would recommend, preferably in the 25-27 inch size area? Thanks :)
You can gamble with this guy's monitor. I have described above why I think it is too good to be true but if it wasn't legit you could get your money back. If it was legitimate it's a hell of a bargain.

Joccaren said:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Yamakasi-Catleap-Q270-27-LED-2560x1440-WQHD-S-IPS-Widescreen-Monitor-/150788045871?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item231baafc2f
This Dell 27" [http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003A4H17S/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0AY6GT84VEFQG1XZKFSA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294] is what I would recommend with a huge budget. It has a large 2560x1440 resolution with a gorgeous S-IPS panel which will make the colours on your monitor look amazing.

Are more realistic monitor would be this one. [http://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-G2750-inch-Monitor-DVI-D/dp/B005OPLG6I/ref=sr_1_15?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1339663446&sr=1-15]

It is 1080P and is just a normal panel and it's still 27", it will still have a quality image on it too. Benq are good value which is how they can afford the lower prices.

From what I have seen you cannot get 25" or 26" monitors. It seems to go 23-24-27-30 in sizes.
Well that Dell monitor looks good, and to be honest, I can wait however long it'll take me to save up for it, it seems it'll be worth it.

The Catleap ones from Korea I've seen before somewhere, and I've also seen very mixed reviews for them, in that they can be perfect on arrival, or have clumps of dead pixels, and I'd rather not use what is essentially a lottery to get my monitor :)