Riot Bans League of Legends Pros For "Toxic Behavior"

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Brian Tams

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They've been going after pros for toxic behavior for a while now, so its really not surprising to see more banned at this point.
 

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When such a large number of players have a problem with certain players, it's good to have them dealt with. Behavior like this is not acceptable in "real life" and should not be tolerated in online games, which lets face it, IS STILL REAL LIFE. Just because you are alone behind your computer, does not give you the right to become "toxic" to other people you are playing online with. Those are not bots, they are real people there to enjoy themselves.
 

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loa said:
I've never heard the term "toxic" being thrown about that oftenly until riot manipulated you all into using it constantly.
Manipulated? Interesting, since the terms that Riot actually uses on the website don't include the term toxic.

IIRC (and it has been a bit since I've reported anyone so they might've changed it), in the options for reporting someone, the term "Toxic" is not used anywhere. That is a term used by the community to have a 1 word description for the negative behaviour of some players. That's not a Riot thing, that's a human thing.

I could say the same about how society shaped you into using words like "asshole" or "dick" or "pansy" or any number of other words that are used to describe a negative behaviour, but are in themselves, words that technically meant something else. That's just human language. We find more concise, direct definitions for things, and if they fit well, they stick around in our language. Simple as that.

I mean yeah, we could all do what I have been doing in this reply, spend paragraph after paragraph, describing the negative behaviour of these players in fine detail, every single time we discuss them. Or, we could simply say "toxic" and you will know very quickly what we are discussing. It unpacks a lot of information in a small amount of communication.
 
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Oh goody!

Nice to see them get off their asses and punish even pros when they're being dickheads.

I would like to seem them crack down a bit harder on the pros, though. If they are the face of your game, they should be held to a high standard. A pro shouldn't have to get into the top 1% harassment score for his region to be taken aside and told to cut it out or get lost.
 

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J Tyran said:
albino boo said:
Zhukov said:
Guess they're finally getting tired of their game being known for Nastiest Playerbase on Earth.
Its a pretty even contest between LoL and Eve. That said at least riot is doing something.
Rubbish, EVE has a great community. Normal gameplay is not "nasty" behaviour, in all the time I played EVE I had more abuse and death threats from the players that think they should be able to play their own little game within EVE and be left alone (The ones labelled by some as "carebears").
I'm not going to start an argument with you here, because I do believe that even the "victims" of e-assholery have/should have a measure of self control, and should not lower themselves to the level of threatening someone with frothing violence because they were beaten in a video game, AND I have seen examples where SOME (Not all, nor a reliable fraction) of the community will go out of their way to embrace someone who shows amusement and an awareness of it only being a game...


But... Having said that, let's not gild the lily here. There are a metric ton of "content creators" in the game that very specifically and deliberately engender, in absolutely any way possible, that very response. Let us not pretend that spinning people up into an oblivious tornado of anger is not a central past-time of EvE's culture, and let us not further pretend that many of the player base will use the most shit-eating grin they can, when defending their actions and stating that "the carebears" need to calm down and not resort to threats/vulgarity/rage.

That is -exactly- what was wanted, 100% of the time.
 

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I wish more companies and championships would start taking steps like this. It would really help the rest of the world to start seeing gaming differently, and stop thinking that all of us are like these whining little brats with the mouth of a little kid. Bonus points to Riot Games.
 

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Steven Bogos said:
Riot Bans League of Legends Pros For "Toxic Behavior"
Um, sorry to pick nits, but shouldn't the headline say "suspends" not "bans"?

"Ban" tends to imply a more permanent sanction- as with the Escapist's own forum.
 
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Dexterity said:
League's community is shit, and it's worsened tenfold just by having the excessively strict laning system that REQUIRES solo top, jungler and support.
I do agree that I dislike how strict the Meta is in League.

That and I don't like how when anyone does anything "out of Meta", there's always that one guy who gets angry. :s What's wrong with my ADC partner taking ADC Teemo? It actually WORKS!
 

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mythgraven said:
J Tyran said:
albino boo said:
Zhukov said:
Guess they're finally getting tired of their game being known for Nastiest Playerbase on Earth.
Its a pretty even contest between LoL and Eve. That said at least riot is doing something.
Rubbish, EVE has a great community. Normal gameplay is not "nasty" behaviour, in all the time I played EVE I had more abuse and death threats from the players that think they should be able to play their own little game within EVE and be left alone (The ones labelled by some as "carebears").
I'm not going to start an argument with you here, because I do believe that even the "victims" of e-assholery have/should have a measure of self control, and should not lower themselves to the level of threatening someone with frothing violence because they were beaten in a video game, AND I have seen examples where SOME (Not all, nor a reliable fraction) of the community will go out of their way to embrace someone who shows amusement and an awareness of it only being a game...


But... Having said that, let's not gild the lily here. There are a metric ton of "content creators" in the game that very specifically and deliberately engender, in absolutely any way possible, that very response. Let us not pretend that spinning people up into an oblivious tornado of anger is not a central past-time of EvE's culture, and let us not further pretend that many of the player base will use the most shit-eating grin they can, when defending their actions and stating that "the carebears" need to calm down and not resort to threats/vulgarity/rage.

That is -exactly- what was wanted, 100% of the time.
Mining for tears isn't a core part of EVE's culture. It is so very rarely personal in EVE. People think because they lost a ship or isk in a scam that it was about them somehow. It's not, you were just another line on the overview who got caught in the wrong place without using the tools available to you or another sucker who thought they were the ones who were going to get easy isk out of someone else. The vast majority of players are nice when you engage them in conversation.
There's no excuse for the frequency of racial slurs thrown around by (mostly) two of the biggest alliances (if Test still exists in any capacity, I've not been paying attention to space politics lately). That shit is out of line.
 

Strazdas

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Ech, banning for "VErbal abuse reports" always remind me of a friend who got banned on Eggsbox Live for voice chat abuse because people kept reporting him. thing is, he never even spoke. i woudl see him play a game, no microphone connected us two chatting while he plays and then he woudl get reported for voice chat abuse because somone thought he wasnt playing good enough. Report system is a good way for moderators to know what to look at, not a way to base bans off.

albino boo said:
Zhukov said:
Guess they're finally getting tired of their game being known for Nastiest Playerbase on Earth.
Its a pretty even contest between LoL and Eve. That said at least riot is doing something.
i guess thats why eve is winning the best community awards all the time right?

Eve has an amazing community, its just not your regular MMO community and i can understand it frustrates you.

teh_gunslinger said:
Eh. It's not rubbish to say that there are some real nasty fuckers in EVE.
there is some real nasty fuckers everywhere. hardly an argument agaisnt EVE.

i am a highsec carebear that trades alot and i was never referred to as jew. its first time i hear about such.


psychopez said:
Naming something is key in helping to control something.
The problem is when you try to assign labels that do not fit to groups that dont share common traits.
Also controling is not always a good thing.
 

teh_gunslinger

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Strazdas said:
Ech, banning for "VErbal abuse reports" always remind me of a friend who got banned on Eggsbox Live for voice chat abuse because people kept reporting him. thing is, he never even spoke. i woudl see him play a game, no microphone connected us two chatting while he plays and then he woudl get reported for voice chat abuse because somone thought he wasnt playing good enough. Report system is a good way for moderators to know what to look at, not a way to base bans off.

albino boo said:
Zhukov said:
Guess they're finally getting tired of their game being known for Nastiest Playerbase on Earth.
Its a pretty even contest between LoL and Eve. That said at least riot is doing something.
i guess thats why eve is winning the best community awards all the time right?

Eve has an amazing community, its just not your regular MMO community and i can understand it frustrates you.

teh_gunslinger said:
Eh. It's not rubbish to say that there are some real nasty fuckers in EVE.
there is some real nasty fuckers everywhere. hardly an argument agaisnt EVE.

i am a highsec carebear that trades alot and i was never referred to as jew. its first time i hear about such.


psychopez said:
Naming something is key in helping to control something.
The problem is when you try to assign labels that do not fit to groups that dont share common traits.
Also controling is not always a good thing.
I certainly wasn't arguing against EVE. I'm a low sec guy myself and spend most of my time getting blown up in various ways. It's an excellent game. But it's wrong to gloss over the nasty parts of the community. And you can be sure that jew as a term is frequent enough.