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Is it just me, or should this thread be named ''The adventures of Draculafreak: The defense of Cannibal Corpse"? I don't even get how people like the band, their music is a composition of urethra slicing, gorilla rolling & shock images. They're like 4chan on even more of a fail streak. Seriously, Draculafreak, I believe (as you are trying to pertain the image of a 'typical omfg american') that you should make a few references to the amendments, specifically the ones that allow idiots like you to have free reign on your so called opinions. We don't like Cannibal Corpse, for many reasons, if you can't handle it go to their forum to whine about how you 'cut a few sluts' and 'stabbed the non-believers'. It's cutters, or Fauxcore wankers like you that deserve to be rounded up into a single location, and smothered with your own egos, bad hair cuts and overly expensive clothing.
Flameless version: No.
I salute you sir, for your lovely and succint summary of my exact opinion of this "band"
Haha, we don't understand the music, or it's origins, but we're certainly not above trashing it without any kind of knowledge about it's roots. Go ignorance!
Morne
I've heard quite a bit of their "music" so I like to think I'm well informed enough to comment on this "band"
Yeah, as have I, and I also know the derivation of such types of music. I'm not here to stomp on expression, far be it from me to promote people writing down their issues w/ life, governments and religions than to have the same people going out, stabbing Priests and burning down churches with folks in 'em. While I may see that as the Church getting paid it's dues. It hardly creates an environment based upon peaceful dialogue, which in turn only exacerbates the hatred, violence and bloodlust from both sides. And yes, Church Zealots are just as bad as metal heads, if not worse. Hell, they think they've got a mandate from their God to kill unbelievers. Like it or don't, but you're hardly an authority (especially an open-minded one) on what is, and what is not music.
Morne
Well actually, being raised in the theatre, having performed onstage doing various plays and musicals for over 14 years, and after taking 8 years of piano, 4 years of voice, spending 6 years in choir I believe I know more about music than most people here.
Cannibal Corpses first demo came out in 1989, and their first full length in 1990, by your logic, they're in a better position to judge what is and is not music, than you are. Careful how you make your metrics for justification of your point. It's really easy to turn it around on you.
Morne
My point wasn't to say that I've been around longer than them, it was to say that I'm VERY well educated in the musical arts, and having the knowledge that I do, I cannot possibly consider CC to be music in any form or fashion.
Your education level, is virtually irrelevant to the topic at hand. No one person(s), decide what is, or is not music. Music is an expression, anyone can express themselves in any way they see fit. To 'attempt' to deny them that, simply because you don't understand the lyrics, agree with their views, or whatnot, is simply an attempt at crushing forms of expression. I strongly disagree with that. Personally, I detest country music, but rather than rail against it needlessly (because honestly, who would listen? And...what would it get me? Nothing, nothing at all), I simply...don't listen to Country.
Morne
You can choose to be ignorant, which is apparently your goal. But noise like Cannibal Corpse is not music, music is an artistic creation, CC creates angry noise, which while you may call it expressive, is not by any stretch of the imagination, music. The sooner the masses realize that this type of noise is just that, the sooner musicians can get back to creating music.
Right, my all inclusive view of music = Ignorant. That makes a whole lot of sense, guess you picked the right handle.
Morne
Read the posts before you reply, by ignorant I am referring to the fact that you know next to nothing about music, therefore; you have little understanding of what actually constitutes music. I understand you desire to be open-minded, and I respect that, but this auditory garbage that is CC is not a musical creation, it is simply angry noise.
Oh really? And, my biography is posted online where, sir? Maybe you're assuming more information than you actually are privy too? I think so. I realize you consider yourself God's greatest gift to the music industry, but alas, you're not. Just a narrow-minded person, who thinks their life somehow entitles them to summarily dismiss a form of musical expression that's been around longer than you've been in the business. You may feel it's not music (and you'd be wrong), you may think, you know the exact defintion and interpretation of music (and you don't), the fact is. It's not up to you. Cannibal Corpse has been selling albums for 29 years, countless world tours, et al. Agree, or don't. Bottom line, most see right through you now, and know your opinion on what is/isn't music, is far from the truth.
Morne
The fact that you have not mentioned anything regarding your knowledge of music proves that you don't know anything about it. Secondly, I don't think I'm god's gift to music, I don't think much of my creation's at all. But here's the point, seeing as you know only of music through listening, and never through composition, theory, performance, tech work, or anything, you really have no place to say whether or not my opinion is right or wrong; in fact, your a fool for saying my opinion is far from the truth, because as you should know, but clearly do not, opinions are thoughts, and beliefs, and differ from individual to individual.
I was in Orchestral Band, for 8 years (and play 3 instruments), including playing for a joint Vermont Youth Orchestra/Vermont Symphony Orchestra project. Ooooh, burn. But, the fact is, just because I've been involved with a band, and music in general, again, doesn't make me an expert on what is, and is not music. Nor does it afford YOU the same luxury. If anything, such involvement should open your eyes to the endless possibilities of what can, and IS music. You remind me of the Dean, in Dead Poet's Society, trying to measure a poem's worth from a chart in a text-book. *shakes head* Amazing.
Morne
Then if you truly were involved with Symphony, and Orchestra (which is very unlikely, because you would have mentioned this sooner) then I would expect you to understand what actually constitutes music, as it were, I find it very convenient that you just now mention your supposed involvement with bands. Please do yourself a favor, and end your pathetic attempt to convince me that the garbage of CC is anything but.
Sorry Baloney, I don't need to wave my dick around, in order to speak my mind, and actually speak with credible intelligence. For one thing, as I said, education is irrelevant. A person could have an IQ of 25, and still be able to identify music with a more unbiased approach, than you can with your 'years' of experience. So really, education is meaningless in this regard. As you've simply failed...even with it. You may not like the music that's presented, but, sorry, you're ill-equipped to actually decide what IS and is NOT music.
And lastly, I could honestly care whether you believe my involvement in the industry, years of experience, or none, I still have a much more wisened view of the musical form than you yourself do. And notice, I never questioned what you said about your level of education, once iterated. I took it at face value and went with it. Amusing you're unable to do the same.
Morne