RON PAUL 2012!!!

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Worgen

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PayNSprayBandit said:
Mookie_Magnus said:
PayNSprayBandit said:
Mookie_Magnus said:
Political Troll is Political...

No one cares right now, we're still adjusting to the current President.
What do you mean adjusting?
Some people still are miffed that he's our President. They've yet to see his good points.
Okay, I'm open-minded. What, in your eyes, are his good points?

Incidentally, I think Obama is exactly what this country needs right now, but probably for different reasons than you.
hes not an idiot, he is willing to tell the american people what is going on, hes not afraid of science, and hes willing to tell more truth then alot of politicians
 

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Worgen said:
hes not an idiot,
he is willing to tell the american people what is going on,
hes not afraid of science,
and hes willing to tell more truth then alot of politicians
Awesome, an intelligent person to debate with.

Okay, I agree with points one and three, but as for two and four they're basically the same point and only half true. He understands much better than we've seen in recent years how the public needs to be communicated with, but he it at heart a politician and does it not because he's a boy scout, but rather because he knows how to score points. I'm sure he's just as comfortable withholding information, too.

However, while character is vastly important, it isn't everything. Philosophy of governance is crucial and people are beginning to question his. Not his motivations, just his answers.
 

Lord Kofun

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1 - Are you insane? Why are you putting your balls out on the sledgehammer block for little to no reason?
2 - Even if there is a landslide in your favor of "YAY!!1! wE lurvs r0n p4UL!!" Would you need that type of support from nameless people who you will never meet or.. well.. care?
3 - Before anyone says: "Oh look! Ron Paul hater!" and attempts to crucify me for that reason.. I haven't really decided. I'm still regaining my balance from the most recent election.
 

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I was never one to read much into the whole "apocalypse 2012" mumbo jumbo, but then, I saw the single most frightening image in the most unlikely of places... at the 0:48 mark here:

http://video.yahoo.com/network/100284668?v=3111268&l=4388115
 

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xmetatr0nx said:
No hes not conservative enough about social issues for most republicans to stomach, and is too smart for his "down south" supporters to identify with. Althought if it came between him and sarah palin id go with Ron Paul.
That's just it though, the party is finally at a place where it might just be able to grow. Ron Paul just may be the perfect face for that evolution.
 

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PayNSprayBandit said:
Worgen said:
hes not an idiot,
he is willing to tell the american people what is going on,
hes not afraid of science,
and hes willing to tell more truth then alot of politicians
Awesome, an intelligent person to debate with.

Okay, I agree with points one and three, but as for two and four they're basically the same point and only half true. He understands much better than we've seen in recent years how the public needs to be communicated with, but he it at heart a politician and does it not because he's a boy scout, but rather because he knows how to score points. I'm sure he's just as comfortable withholding information, too.

However, while character is vastly important, it isn't everything. Philosophy of governance is crucial and people are beginning to question his. Not his motivations, just his answers.
well the problem is that we wont be able to really understand his philosophy till later on since hes only been pres for just over 100 days and these days its almost impossible to do anything without the opposing party (IE republicans) yelling loudly about facism or socialism or something stupid rather then trying to really come up with a logical argument and because of this its almost impossible to do what democratic governments are there for, compromise (altho a good compromise leaves everyone angry)altho I doubt he is going to end up doing what bush did and try and rule by fear, lots of fear. so that automaticly puts hit way ahead since fear is just a step up from "think of the children" on the ass hat scale
 

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I still have yet to hear a real argument for why ron paul and libertarians should be given any power.
 

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Preemptive strike on the political flame war.
This thread shall now be used to discuss the many different uses of pumpkins:
I'll start, anyone ever had pumpkin soup?
 

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How about instead of voting Democrat or Republican or Other, we all vote for Santa Claus. Because honestly, he's the best choice.